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Three phases win and I would point out...how many times has Louisville started out 0-1 in league play in football AND basketball in the last 20 years? There is no extra value for going 1-0 when outscoring your opponent by 1 or by 12. There is no scoring differential value in college sports for anyone but oddsmakers. We covered, we won. We're 1-0 in the ACC league standings September 22nd 2024.

1. The Georgia Institute of Polytechnology didn't get to where it was by admitting a bunch of imbeciles. Brett Key is a hell of a coach and he managed a game by playing the percentages about as well as you can in the modern game. The defense--and special teams--continually turned those odds against him. They were perfect in the Red Zone this year until yesterday and if Ashton Gillotte was upright scraping down on Jamal King's instead of being turned to the endzone the half would have ended 17-7. Much respect for Key...he actually micromanaged a 12 point loss as a 10.5 point (finishing as an 8.5 point) underdog.

SEC America won't recognize it, but had we played a lesser coached team that game wasn't even competitive. The great play by Riley to get our first TD was setup by a great punt to pin GT to the Louisville 5. Say what you will for Haynes King, but his greatest play yesterday might be running to the sidelines upright after his lateral gaffe play by Quincey Riley. Antonio Watts put a shot to his ribs that propelled him two yards in reverse that fortunately for King didn't result in a collapsed lung. On 4th down we had to beat a good offensive line multiple times to thwart a GT drive.

2. Special Teams played a huge role. Immediate attention will go to Holloway with the block and return, but the pin to the five yard line contributed to the first score for Puryear and the missed FG in the first second quarter from the right hash when it was 7-7 saw penetration straight through the B gap that if the FG kicker had it on frame instead of going wide right it would have been blocked. We might have had a scoop and score in the second quarter instead of the fourth and I'm not so sure that didn't contribute to Keys' hesitation at 4th and 14 at that point in the game.

3. I made the mistake of posting on Twitter on a Keith Wynne thread of saying that I didn't think the UofL d line was very disruptive outside of Tramel Logan. Upon further review, Rene Konga is very disruptive and a big part of Gillotte's theoretical lack of disruptiveness is they're sliding him down into the B gap. I suspect against ND he'll be anchoring on the TE/strong side if for no other reason than to body blow Mitchell Evans and force him to devote more attention to his blocking abilities.

4. Flags. I always compare our reaction to that of the garden variety UK fan that we all know who upon losing a basketball game on a cold night in January at Vanderbilt will always pull out the canard "it was 5 on 8"...the callback of Jamari Johnson's 30 yard plus gainer was laughable when you watch it back. The only crime was that it was pinned on Austin Collins...three O linemen were FIFTEEN yards downfield with Collins being the least downfield among the three. It was a screen intended to have Jamari Johnson getting the ball behind the line of scrimmage making it immaterial that the three linemen were downfield; a wayward NT who couldn't find the ball blew the play up forcing Johnson off his route and Shough having to hesitate to get him the ball. The refs got that right.

...but they blew the timeout situation which was criminal considering it directly contributed to the safety. Truth be told Ga Tech probably caught a one point differential because they would have settled for a FG instead of getting the safety when it was all said and done. That blocking below the waist call on Blue Hicks was straight up garbage and so was the call on Duke Watson who flat made a pancake block out of nothing. If I have one common complaint it was there was a gross inconsistency in holding. Louisville was beating on the edge and getting held consistently; Thor Griffin in one of his few snaps got blatantly held. The old adage of you can call holding every snap is among the first things dispelled by any official I've ever met, but teams have gotten away with it quite a bit against Louisville already.

5. Position-by-position I believe we can all reach the consensus that wide receiver and tight end are an aggregate improvement over 2023. Clearly we can say the same of quarterback. The jury is still WAY out on the offensive line though I will politely say the RIGHT side of the offensive line. Mendoza and Rasheed Miller were bleeding missed blocks yesterday and we basically have right guard platoon between Vic Cutler and Austin Collins. I don't know what the situation is with Renato Brown, but it is crying out for his contribution. Offensive line is a position where we recruited well in Brohm's first year but the secret sauce hasn't been found. We lost Burgess to transfer, we still have Madden Sanker and Joe Crocker who aren't contributing yet. Somehow in the 25 years since I left Lexington they have an embarrassment of riches from the prep ranks with O linemen going to UK, Alabama, Clemson, et al and St. X, Trinity, Ballard, etc. have produced butkus. It's one area where if we are being honest UK is just beating the hell out of us by comparison. Whether we enjoy the thrill of the initial playoffs or not, we don't have a Playoff caliber offensive line set of talent. It's not a matter of not having a Mekhi Becton, an Eric Woods or a Roman Oben. Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Texas have those NOW...not spread out over a couple decades.

6. That said...we are really good at WR and TE with NFL projected talent. And we appear to have a QB that can deliver the goods to it in a scheme to do it. Brooks is the real deal. Chris Bell is going to be the actor in any Terrell Owens biographical movie. He's a weightroom marvel. Redman looks NFL ready and Jamari Johnson looks like a dead letter certain first day draft pick in two years. I didn't like how Jadon Thompson's injury looked yesterday but am looking forward to Caullen Lacy.

Notre Dame is a very intriguing matchup. To say they should be focused, hungry and motivated on their home field is an understatement and it's a fascinating matchup of strengths vs. weaknesses. Their backs are against the wall in a way that won't become clear until we kick it off Saturday. We have leaked QB runs the last two weeks and Notre Dame has seemingly gone MIchigan's route of assuming the best way to cover a a poor passing QB is to just run the ball 90 % of the time. We aren't getting the Riley Leonard with a bum ankle like we got last year but hopefully we will be the 2nd consecutive ND QB taking the field against us trying to outrun the demons of their last matchup against our defense. Make no mistake about it...our task in South Bend is monumental. There wasn't anything that happened yesterday that convinced me we could do anything against them running to the right side of our formation and their Front Seven is significantly better than a well schemed Ga Tech front.
 
Not sure why Leonard would be fielding punts with an already gimpy ankle(which I'm guessing was already an issue). Wish we could take that one back. He aggravated it on a return.
 
Most the calls were right but the 3 you mentioned which were all big plus some missed holding like you said. What amazed me is the attempt by the zebras to call a motion penalty just in case the late timeout wasn’t granted. The center snapping the ball early when everyone was set is no a motion penalty. I’m not sure after you add the grounding yardage if Tech could have made a FG?
 
Holding at the college and pro level is ridiculously inconsistent. I am not sure how grabbing the outside shoulder isn’t considered blatant holding every time. Keeping your hands inside the arms and grabbing is easy to miss.
 
Holding at the college and pro level is ridiculously inconsistent. I am not sure how grabbing the outside shoulder isn’t considered blatant holding every time. Keeping your hands inside the arms and grabbing is easy to miss.
You can put your hands on the outside shoulders but you can’t use your arm to put a neck lock on a rusher in attempt to slow him. That happens uncalled constantly. Also refs try to anticipate how the play is going to play out instead of just calling what they see. The only thing they halfway call constantly right is denying separation by holding the jersey. Imo why they don’t enforce holding penalties better is it keeps the loophole open for games like UK at Louisville last year when they want to give an undisciplined team an advantage.
 
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Three phases win and I would point out...how many times has Louisville started out 0-1 in league play in football AND basketball in the last 20 years? There is no extra value for going 1-0 when outscoring your opponent by 1 or by 12. There is no scoring differential value in college sports for anyone but oddsmakers. We covered, we won. We're 1-0 in the ACC league standings September 22nd 2024.

1. The Georgia Institute of Polytechnology didn't get to where it was by admitting a bunch of imbeciles. Brett Key is a hell of a coach and he managed a game by playing the percentages about as well as you can in the modern game. The defense--and special teams--continually turned those odds against him. They were perfect in the Red Zone this year until yesterday and if Ashton Gillotte was upright scraping down on Jamal King's instead of being turned to the endzone the half would have ended 17-7. Much respect for Key...he actually micromanaged a 12 point loss as a 10.5 point (finishing as an 8.5 point) underdog.

SEC America won't recognize it, but had we played a lesser coached team that game wasn't even competitive. The great play by Riley to get our first TD was setup by a great punt to pin GT to the Louisville 5. Say what you will for Haynes King, but his greatest play yesterday might be running to the sidelines upright after his lateral gaffe play by Quincey Riley. Antonio Watts put a shot to his ribs that propelled him two yards in reverse that fortunately for King didn't result in a collapsed lung. On 4th down we had to beat a good offensive line multiple times to thwart a GT drive.

2. Special Teams played a huge role. Immediate attention will go to Holloway with the block and return, but the pin to the five yard line contributed to the first score for Puryear and the missed FG in the first second quarter from the right hash when it was 7-7 saw penetration straight through the B gap that if the FG kicker had it on frame instead of going wide right it would have been blocked. We might have had a scoop and score in the second quarter instead of the fourth and I'm not so sure that didn't contribute to Keys' hesitation at 4th and 14 at that point in the game.

3. I made the mistake of posting on Twitter on a Keith Wynne thread of saying that I didn't think the UofL d line was very disruptive outside of Tramel Logan. Upon further review, Rene Konga is very disruptive and a big part of Gillotte's theoretical lack of disruptiveness is they're sliding him down into the B gap. I suspect against ND he'll be anchoring on the TE/strong side if for no other reason than to body blow Mitchell Evans and force him to devote more attention to his blocking abilities.

4. Flags. I always compare our reaction to that of the garden variety UK fan that we all know who upon losing a basketball game on a cold night in January at Vanderbilt will always pull out the canard "it was 5 on 8"...the callback of Jamari Johnson's 30 yard plus gainer was laughable when you watch it back. The only crime was that it was pinned on Austin Collins...three O linemen were FIFTEEN yards downfield with Collins being the least downfield among the three. It was a screen intended to have Jamari Johnson getting the ball behind the line of scrimmage making it immaterial that the three linemen were downfield; a wayward NT who couldn't find the ball blew the play up forcing Johnson off his route and Shough having to hesitate to get him the ball. The refs got that right.

...but they blew the timeout situation which was criminal considering it directly contributed to the safety. Truth be told Ga Tech probably caught a one point differential because they would have settled for a FG instead of getting the safety when it was all said and done. That blocking below the waist call on Blue Hicks was straight up garbage and so was the call on Duke Watson who flat made a pancake block out of nothing. If I have one common complaint it was there was a gross inconsistency in holding. Louisville was beating on the edge and getting held consistently; Thor Griffin in one of his few snaps got blatantly held. The old adage of you can call holding every snap is among the first things dispelled by any official I've ever met, but teams have gotten away with it quite a bit against Louisville already.

5. Position-by-position I believe we can all reach the consensus that wide receiver and tight end are an aggregate improvement over 2023. Clearly we can say the same of quarterback. The jury is still WAY out on the offensive line though I will politely say the RIGHT side of the offensive line. Mendoza and Rasheed Miller were bleeding missed blocks yesterday and we basically have right guard platoon between Vic Cutler and Austin Collins. I don't know what the situation is with Renato Brown, but it is crying out for his contribution. Offensive line is a position where we recruited well in Brohm's first year but the secret sauce hasn't been found. We lost Burgess to transfer, we still have Madden Sanker and Joe Crocker who aren't contributing yet. Somehow in the 25 years since I left Lexington they have an embarrassment of riches from the prep ranks with O linemen going to UK, Alabama, Clemson, et al and St. X, Trinity, Ballard, etc. have produced butkus. It's one area where if we are being honest UK is just beating the hell out of us by comparison. Whether we enjoy the thrill of the initial playoffs or not, we don't have a Playoff caliber offensive line set of talent. It's not a matter of not having a Mekhi Becton, an Eric Woods or a Roman Oben. Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Texas have those NOW...not spread out over a couple decades.

6. That said...we are really good at WR and TE with NFL projected talent. And we appear to have a QB that can deliver the goods to it in a scheme to do it. Brooks is the real deal. Chris Bell is going to be the actor in any Terrell Owens biographical movie. He's a weightroom marvel. Redman looks NFL ready and Jamari Johnson looks like a dead letter certain first day draft pick in two years. I didn't like how Jadon Thompson's injury looked yesterday but am looking forward to Caullen Lacy.

Notre Dame is a very intriguing matchup. To say they should be focused, hungry and motivated on their home field is an understatement and it's a fascinating matchup of strengths vs. weaknesses. Their backs are against the wall in a way that won't become clear until we kick it off Saturday. We have leaked QB runs the last two weeks and Notre Dame has seemingly gone MIchigan's route of assuming the best way to cover a a poor passing QB is to just run the ball 90 % of the time. We aren't getting the Riley Leonard with a bum ankle like we got last year but hopefully we will be the 2nd consecutive ND QB taking the field against us trying to outrun the demons of their last matchup against our defense. Make no mistake about it...our task in South Bend is monumental. There wasn't anything that happened yesterday that convinced me we could do anything against them running to the right side of our formation and their Front Seven is significantly better than a well schemed Ga Tech front.
Have to disagree on ND having a good run defense. GT is 19th, we are 18th and ND is 55th in rush defense.
 
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Their rushing D has given up 134, 124, 38, 110 through 4 games. And one of those is TX A&M. I would say that is pretty solid. Very hard to go by team rankings this time of year bc P4 teams are playing FCS teams.

We have given up 34, 98, 130. Hardly think there is 37 spots difference between our rush D's.
 
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Their rushing D has given up 134, 124, 38, 110 through 4 games. And one of those is TX A&M. I would say that is pretty solid. Very hard to go by team rankings this time of year bc P4 teams are playing FCS teams.

We have given up 34, 98, 130. Hardly think there is 37 spots difference between our rush D's.
I'm just giving national stats.

The other thing is that IMO GT Dline is better than ND. How many yards did ND give up to Ill? GT Oline is on par with or a slight edge than ND. GT will prove this the game right after ours.
 
I'm just giving national stats.

The other thing is that IMO GT Dline is better than ND. How many yards did ND give up to Ill? GT Oline is on par with or a slight edge than ND. GT will prove this the game right after ours.
It's hard to find good analytics like a KenPom of college football, I usually go with ESPN's FPI.

Overall, ESPN FPI rates the Notre Dame defense #5 overall. Their SOS in that ranking is #47.

In terms of the teams ND has faced

Texas A&M's offense is #39
Northern Illinois' offense is #55
Purdue's offense is #113
Miami OH's offense is #107

Our offense is #11 in the ESPN FPI against the #124 SOS

In terms of the defenses, we have faced.

GT's defense is rated #72
JVST's defense is rated #116


It's early and I wish I had some more breakdown of efficiencies on stopping the run and such, because raw stats are hard to gage so early in the year, but I guess you could say that we're the best offense they've faced and they're the best defense we've faced.

These ratings are hard to judge so early as teams play backups and weaker opponents, so you don't get the good data until later on in the season.
 
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