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Why hasn’t there been any statement from Payne?

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He’s gotten serious push from both the supporters and malcontents, the donation heavy hitters and the casual fan, media pundits and both college and pro coaches and yet - not a peep from Payne.

Interested to know why the board thinks he’s been completely silent.
 
I am curious to because when Louisville and Mack parted ways early in the season it was for a reason. They said so we could hire a coach early and get on the recruiting trail. If it is Payne they would go ahead and announce it and let him start working on recruiting. It’s not like he is at another university and they have to wait until the end of the season.
If it is Payne and they are waiting until the seasons end that shows you how bad the decision making at Louisville is. I have heard there is interest from quite a few other coaches which doesn’t surprise me but it would obviously surprise some of our other fans in here.
 
It's a good sign that people like me have no information on what's really going on. That suggests that the search committee is taking care of its business. Part of that is making sure nothing gets leaked. The last thing we want to see is a long list of coaches rejecting us.

Who knows, maybe Payne turned the job down a long time ago or we moved on from him, and the University asked him to keep quiet about it.
 
He’s gotten serious push from both the supporters and malcontents, the donation heavy hitters and the casual fan, media pundits and both college and pro coaches and yet - not a peep from Payne.

Interested to know why the board thinks he’s been completely silent.

What type of statement would you think he’d make? I guess I think it’s best to remain silent. If he says he’s interested and doesn’t get the job then it is a negative for him. In terms of leverage it makes sense for him to keep UofL guessing as to what he will do.
 
What type of statement would you think he’d make? I guess I think it’s best to remain silent. If he says he’s interested and doesn’t get the job then it is a negative for him. In terms of leverage it makes sense for him to keep UofL guessing as to what he will do.
I dunno - how about “I appreciate being linked with such a prestigious job at my alma mater - the University of Louisville. It’s a special place, one with great fans, tradition and facilities and any coach would be lucky to be in charge there. That said, my current focus is here in New York and in my capacities with the Knicks.”

It ain’t rocket science.
 
If Payne is our new coach, I expect he'll say something after it's announced that he got the job. If he isn't our new coach, he doesn't really need to say anything.
 
When did we officially offer him the job? I don’t think we have so there’s nothing to say. He doesn’t want to come off as begging…
 
I dunno - how about “I appreciate being linked with such a prestigious job at my alma mater - the University of Louisville. It’s a special place, one with great fans, tradition and facilities and any coach would be lucky to be in charge there. That said, my current focus is here in New York and in my capacities with the Knicks.”

It ain’t rocket science.

Gotcha. So basically some boiler-plate statement that says something without saying much of anything.
 
He’s gotten serious push from both the supporters and malcontents, the donation heavy hitters and the casual fan, media pundits and both college and pro coaches and yet - not a peep from Payne.

Interested to know why the board thinks he’s been completely silent.

Serious answer - Heird appears to really have this locked down. No leaks, no rumors even, just internet chatter like we see here. My guess is the search firm reaches out to people saying "We want to reach out to you and discuss, but this has to remain confidential" and so far it has.

Anyone making public comments would be just positioning for a raise. Bruce Pearl, for example.
 
The point is there have been so many people saying it is going to be KP. People even posted he was spotted at a restaurant in town with Milt Wagner. Other people have posted on here that nobody else would want the job. However if all that is true which I doubt it is why haven’t they announced it yet? Maybe it is KP and they just want to make it look like they are going through a process when they aren’t like they did with Tyra.
 
Spoke to a friend today who relayed an in depth conversation that he had this week with a former teammate of Payne. Said that Payne wasn’t interested in the job at all and was content in his position with the Knicks. Went in further to say that WWW had specifically told him that taking the UofL job was not a good move for him.

If that’s the case - and again it came from a connected and reliable source - I sure hope Payne comes our at some point and says that he’s not interested. That way if UofL ends up hiring someone else - at least there’s less fodder for the eaves and beards of the world to say that the university didn’t consider an AA for the HC position.
 
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Spoke to a friend today who relayed an in depth conversation that he had this week with a former teammate of Payne. Said that Payne wasn’t interested in the job at all and was content in his position with the Knicks. Went in further to say that WWW had specifically told him that taking the UofL job was not a good move for him.

If that’s the case - and again it came from a connected and reliable source - I sure hope Payne comes our at some point and says that he’s not interested. That way if UofL ends up hiring someone else - at least there’s less fodder for the eaves and beards of the world to say that the university didn’t consider an AA for the HC position.
Lmao well that’s about 100 other people in town and many other of his former teammates saying the exact opposite
 
Spoke to a friend today who relayed an in depth conversation that he had this week with a former teammate of Payne. Said that Payne wasn’t interested in the job at all and was content in his position with the Knicks. Went in further to say that WWW had specifically told him that taking the UofL job was not a good move for him.

If that’s the case - and again it came from a connected and reliable source - I sure hope Payne comes our at some point and says that he’s not interested. That way if UofL ends up hiring someone else - at least there’s less fodder for the eaves and beards of the world to say that the university didn’t consider an AA for the HC position.
Hearing murmurings of the same. If Payne isn’t the head coach by this time next week then I think we will have our answer on him. Sadly the Cronin chatter has picked up.
 
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i thought we hired a company to do the search which means they are paid to take their time and not leak info. no offers to anyone should have been made yet if we are using an outside firm. their job is to evaluate everyone, not pick the guys the fans want. KP shoul dnot have a job offer yet for any reason, whethere we want him or not and KP has no reason to comment as commenting could cost him negotiating power to get a new contract with the knicks. why would kp comment at all, the longer this goes the better chance knicks offer him more money
 
Lmao well that’s about 100 other people in town and many other of his former teammates saying the exact opposite
The exact opposite is that Payne isn’t happy with the Knicks, is being encouraged to take the UofL job by world wide Wes and, is all in for the HC position.

Reality suggests otherwise.
 
Hearing murmurings of the same. If Payne isn’t the head coach by this time next week then I think we will have our answer on him. Sadly the Cronin chatter has picked up.
Heard the same regarding Cronin from a group of boosters that he has remained friends with from his time here.
 
Spoke to a friend today who relayed an in depth conversation that he had this week with a former teammate of Payne. Said that Payne wasn’t interested in the job at all and was content in his position with the Knicks. Went in further to say that WWW had specifically told him that taking the UofL job was not a good move for him.

If that’s the case - and again it came from a connected and reliable source - I sure hope Payne comes our at some point and says that he’s not interested. That way if UofL ends up hiring someone else - at least there’s less fodder for the eaves and beards of the world to say that the university didn’t consider an AA for the HC position.
Doesn’t matter if he’s happy at the knicks or not the staff is getting fired and he’s gonna need a new job soon regardless
 
I think bits of pieces of information that come out can quickly turned which way w want.

By many people in the NBA the Knicks are firing their head coach. Kenny is not a candidate for that job. Like People have said he may like his job but doesn’t mean he will keep it.

The WWW and Nike statement now sure why that matters, They aren’t throwing their weight around to make him a coach anywhere else. Both have reasons why not to have

If he really didn’t want the job the message would be clear he didn’t want the job. The mixed information is interesting. Not sure why his perceived supporters would be doing that. That doesn’t help him at all. It only hurts his chances if the message becomes load enough. If he has any hesitation about this job he shouldn’t be selected. There is no dipping his toes in the water on this one.
 
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First we expect Kenny to make a generic statement about how honored he is to maybe or maybe not be a candidate for this job and we want him to throw in some love to the "great fans of Card Nation" (LMFAO!) while he's doing it.

Then if it turns out Kenny isn't the next HC because he determined he wasn't that into it, we expect him to make another generic statement for the fans.

While we fully understand Kenny is not an employee of UofL (I don't think some of us actually understand this), we still have some requirements of him, because he should forever be indebted to us because something something something reasons reasons something.

We have these expectations even though many of us do not want this man anywhere near the HC position of this program. Just don't judge us, ok!

Just how far does Kenny's debt to Card Nation actually go? I see no boundaries either.

I can't blame fans for losing all perspective. It's been a tough 5 years and counting.
 
Doesn’t matter if he’s happy at the knicks or not the staff is getting fired and he’s gonna need a new job soon regardless
Plenty of assistant jobs out there. The more you look at it, the more it seems clear that 2nd / 3rd chair is his comfort zone.
 
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First we expect Kenny to make a generic statement about how honored he is to maybe or maybe not be a candidate for this job and we want him to throw in some love to the "great fans of Card Nation" (LMFAO!) while he's doing it.

Then if it turns out Kenny isn't the next HC because he determined he wasn't that into it, we expect him to make another generic statement for the fans.

While we fully understand Kenny is not an employee of UofL (I don't think some of us actually understand this), we still have some requirements of him, because he should forever be indebted to us because something something something reasons reasons something.

We have these expectations even though many of us do not want this man anywhere near the HC position of this program. Just don't judge us, ok!

Just how far does Kenny's debt to Card Nation actually go? I see no boundaries either.

I can't blame fans for losing all perspective. It's been a tough 5 years and counting.
I’m struggling to understand why a basic statement from a celebrated former player regarding a job that he’s been given hearty endorsements for from everyone and their effing uncle - is somehow an example of Payne’s boundless “debt” to Card Nation.

I never suggested that he make multiple statements - though I do think that out of respect for all of those people publicly endorsing his candidacy, if he doesn’t have any interest in the job - saying “thanks but no thanks” is the proper way to handle it.

Lastly, I believe that you can hold the opinion just expressed while simultaneously holding the opinion that he’s not the best candidate for the position. Those two thoughts are hardly mutually exclusive.
 
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I’m struggling to understand why a basic statement from a celebrated former player regarding a job that he’s been given hearty endorsements for from everyone and their effing uncle - is somehow an example of Payne’s boundless “debt” to Card Nation.

I never suggested that he make multiple statements - though I do think that out of respect for all of those people publicly endorsing his candidacy, if he doesn’t have any interest in the job - saying “thanks but no thanks” is the proper way to handle it.

Lastly, I believe that you can hold the opinion just expressed while simultaneously holding the opinion that he’s not the best candidate for the position. Those two thoughts are hardly mutually exclusive.
Personally I think either he or his agent are trying to benefit from keeping the idea that a program like Louisville is entertaining the thought of hiring him. It makes his client seem more in demand than what he probably is.
 
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I'm not crazy about Cronin. Hopefully he stays in California. I DO like KP.

GO CARDS!!!
 
He has made it known he is interested in the job. That was clear from day one. No need to make a statement. The rumor mill has churned up the narrative he doesn’t want it. We all should know if Payne is the guy by the end of the week if not then maybe we hear something directly from him. No need right now.
 
He has made it known he is interested in the job. That was clear from day one. No need to make a statement. The rumor mill has churned up the narrative he doesn’t want it. We all should know if Payne is the guy by the end of the week if not then maybe we hear something directly from him. No need right now.

The obvious answer (well to me anyway) is the search firm is telling potential candidates to stay quiet until the process is over.
 
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Well I hope they do something before the transfer portal and so much for getting it done early so we can have a jump on recruiting. If it were KP the announcement would already have been made. Like I have said before he is not at a college so you wouldn’t have to wait until the end of the season.
 
Well I hope they do something before the transfer portal and so much for getting it done early so we can have a jump on recruiting. If it were KP the announcement would already have been made. Like I have said before he is not at a college so you wouldn’t have to wait until the end of the season.
But he’s not the only candidate (I hope). We have to have at least 3-5 options IMHO. Some of those have to be at or were at a college.
 
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I think that KP not being hired by now is a good sign that UofL hoops still is considered a top flight job despite the recent bad play and multiple scandals.

There are apparently some big name coaches who have shown interest and would be willing to sit down and talk. There's a lot of positive things about KP being named head coach but if there's big time coaches like Scott Drew interested, UofL will listen. That's why they haven't announced KP the head coach.

This is my opinion of course. I don't know for sure if KP wants the job as much as fans think he would. I do know I was surprised when Bruce Pearl's name came up, only to find out he was getting a raise at Auburn who must have believed he would accept a Louisville offer.

Now Scott Drew really floors me. Is he doing the same thing Pearl did? Baylor will probably be playing games in late March so another month before UofL announces a hiring will be a very tough thing to do.

But this proves that Louisville basketball is not desperate and still has the clout to pick a coach from a group of top level coaches. Now if they have the money for that coach, well that's a different story.
 
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There could be at least 5 guys they plan on interviewing with after their seasons end.

Lots of names have been mentioned for the job.

Nobody is talking.

Not at that stage of the process, just not how it works. Especially when considering there was a firm hired.

Fans want closure, sorry sometimes can't have what you want. It's best this way, the less leaks the better. If everything is happening behind closed doors there's no need to hear from any candidate.

Xmas comes later in the month.
 
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There could be at least 5 guys they plan on interviewing with after their seasons end.

Lots of names have been mentioned for the job.

Nobody is talking.

Not at that stage of the process, just not how it works. Especially when considering there was a firm hired.

Fans want closure, sorry sometimes can't have what you want. It's best this way, the less leaks the better. If everything is happening behind closed doors there's no need to hear from any candidate.

Xmas comes later in the month.
It’s getting closer to April Fool’s than Xmas!!
 
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There could be at least 5 guys they plan on interviewing with after their seasons end.

Lots of names have been mentioned for the job.

Nobody is talking.

Not at that stage of the process, just not how it works. Especially when considering there was a firm hired.

Fans want closure, sorry sometimes can't have what you want. It's best this way, the less leaks the better. If everything is happening behind closed doors there's no need to hear from any candidate.

Xmas comes later in the month.

Agree. All of the candidates, except for Payne, are gearing up for their March run. It really isn't that hard to figure out why it's quiet.
 
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