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The whole “you got two fouls, you gotta sit...”

ShortCreek

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rule is just plain stupid! I don’t know how this got started, but it’s just a stupid practice. Very rarely (except with Anas today) does the players who sit foul out. Today Ray ended the game with THREE FOULS! So all that sitting he did in the first half really paid off.
 
rule is just plain stupid! I don’t know how this got started, but it’s just a stupid practice. Very rarely (except with Anas today) does the players who sit foul out. Today Ray ended the game with THREE FOULS! So all that sitting he did in the first half really paid off.

Just a poor coaching decision by Padgett.
 
Wouldn't have made any difference.

These guys admitted they weren't ready to play their arch-rival.
Only Ray had the cojones to step up.

Its not the most important game, however if the Cards go .500 or worse
in the ACC, theyll be NIT bound. Would have been a nice win.

Besides, im more than confident the refs would have given either a 3rd foul
before the half.

What Coach Padgett needed to do was rotate Ray and Anas, once one got 1 foul,
the rest of the half.
 
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Wouldn't have made any difference.

These guys admitted they weren't ready to play their arch-rival.
Only Ray had the cojones to step up.

Its not the most important game, however if the Cards go .500 or worse
in the ACC, theyll be NIT bound. Would have been a nice win.

Besides, im more than confident the refs would have given either a 3rd foul
before the half.

What Coach Padgett needed to do was rotate Ray and Anas, once one got 1 foul,
the rest of the half.


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I remember when Bo Kimble for Loyola Marymount picked up his 4th foul in the 1st half of an NCAA Tournament game - and his team still won.

I agree, the automatic sit with 2 fouls shouldn't always be the rule of thumb.

It was always going to be difficult for UofL big men to avoid foul trouble today.

There are not really many answers, and certainly a coach with little to no experience isn't going to find them.
 
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It all depends on the situation, the player in foul trouble, and your bench, in my opinion. If the game is getting out of hand and your top players are on the bench, you gotta take the chance. I think most coaches follow that as a rule of thumb, counting on their bench players to fill the gap. The big problem comes when the gap between starters and bench players is wide.
 
Wouldn't have made any difference.

These guys admitted they weren't ready to play their arch-rival.
Only Ray had the cojones to step up.

Its not the most important game, however if the Cards go .500 or worse
in the ACC, theyll be NIT bound. Would have been a nice win.

Besides, im more than confident the refs would have given either a 3rd foul
before the half.

What Coach Padgett needed to do was rotate Ray and Anas, once one got 1 foul,
the rest of the half.
Actually if anyone was listening to the radio is that CDP will sit either Ray or Anas when they pick up their 1st foul to try to keep them from getting into foul trouble. It’s not CDP’s fault that these experienced players can’t stay on the court without fouling. Anas goes after every pump fake.
 
It's good if the team can maintain the game the way it's left to them by the guys going out.Like the Sweet 16 game against UK in 2014,it wasn't maintained when Hancock went out,nor this one when Mahmoud and Spalding sat.

Unfortunately,it's a calculated risk to keep them sitting and one to bring them back.

I do hate that somebody hasn't bucked the trend...every now and then.
 
It's good if the team can maintain the game the way it's left to them by the guys going out.Like the Sweet 16 game against UK in 2014,it wasn't maintained when Hancock went out,nor this one when Mahmoud and Spalding sat.

Unfortunately,it's a calculated risk to keep them sitting and one to bring them back.

I do hate that somebody hasn't bucked the trend...every now and then.
This was the game that immediately came to my mind and has had my head exploding ever since. We are on a run when Luke gets his 2nd foul. The coach pulls him. Trez gets his 2nd and stays in, only to draw his 3rd foul before half and later fouls out. Surely SVT could have gotten us to halftime. IMO you have to know your players. As a fan, I would trust 5th year senior Luke to throttle back more so than Trez.

I also remember a game from my childhood when the Runts were playing Vandy. Vandy's star Clyde Lee picked his 4th foul before half. Cawood and I are still waiting for that 5th foul.

IMO the whole pulling a guy when he got his 2nd foul before half started when Al McGuire retired and went into broadcasting. Al was an early proponent of pulling after 2 1st half fouls and expressed it often on the air.
 
Hindsight is 20/20, but Padgett should have taken the gamble and left Spalding in, or at least put him back in the game, once the Cards started struggling and falling behind late in the first half. Ray was having a pretty good game and our freshman back ups just weren't ready to handle the load.

But Padgett is, obviously, still learning on the job. Maybe he will think about handling a similar situation differently next time, but then again maybe not. We'll see.
 
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