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SEC embarrassing itself already...

zipp

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...Ole Miss down 17 points at halftime of their play-in game.

The problem is Spring football practice has already started.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
$EC basketball is synonymous with embarrassing.

It is a 40 minute game. Ole piss could come back-
 
Glad to see AK and Ole Miss get the win after he got hosed at UC. I can't stand BYU. The rest of the SEZ can go pound salt.
 
Nothing inaccurate in the OP... Being down at halftime in an NCAA play-in game is embarrassing. Enough to cause America to turn the channel.

And just what I'd expect from an SEC team. They should all be in play-in games, and the conference auto-bid should be revoked.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Nothing inaccurate in the OP... Being down at halftime in an NCAA play-in game is embarrassing. Enough to cause America to turn the channel.

And just what I'd expect from an SEC team. They should all be in play-in games, and the conference auto-bid should be revoked.

"Elite program", my a$$...
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the conference auto-bid should be revoked? I get that you think the conference isn't good, but do you want to take away every auto bid from every lower-tier conference?
 
Originally posted by Atwood8665:
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the conference auto-bid should be revoked? I get that you think the conference isn't good, but do you want to take away every auto bid from every lower-tier conference?Start another thread on the subject. But in a nutshell, there should be far fewer teams invited--maybe sixteen--so most auto-bids should be eliminated. Each contest should be decided in a three- or five-game series. Legit teams will advance, no more cinderellas.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by Atwood8665:
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the conference auto-bid should be revoked? I get that you think the conference isn't good, but do you want to take away every auto bid from every lower-tier conference?Start another thread on the subject. But in a nutshell, there should be far fewer teams invited--maybe sixteen--so most auto-bids should be eliminated. Each contest should be decided in a three- or five-game series. Legit teams will advance, no more cinderellas.

"Elite program", my a$$...
It's not important enough for a separate thread, I was just curious because I had seen you mention taking away auto bids before. And I don't disagree with your ideas, especially the three- or five-game series. It would make sure the best teams were the ones that won the tournaments, but would make less money for the TV companies and the NCAA.
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by Atwood8665:
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the conference auto-bid should be revoked? I get that you think the conference isn't good, but do you want to take away every auto bid from every lower-tier conference?Start another thread on the subject. But in a nutshell, there should be far fewer teams invited--maybe sixteen--so most auto-bids should be eliminated. Each contest should be decided in a three- or five-game series. Legit teams will advance, no more cinderellas.

"Elite program", my a$$...
Jimmy Valvano say "KMA"
 
Originally posted by Atwood8665:
It's not important enough for a separate thread, I was just curious because I had seen you mention taking away auto bids before. And I don't disagree with your ideas, especially the three- or five-game series. It would make sure the best teams were the ones that won the tournaments, but would make less money for the TV companies and the NCAA. That's not true. A sixteen team tourney with three-game 1st round contests, five-game 2nd rounds, and a best-of-seven final would have between 32 and 51 games total vs. 63 presently. But half of the games now overlap to where most people don't get to watch them. In fact, 75% of them (48 games) will be over by Sunday nite.

A multiple elimination format would allow games to be spread over several weeks during primetime evening and weekend time slots, and you'd get to watch a majority of them. It would be fantastic.

More importantly--as is happening in football--you get a legit national champion. Not simply the winner of a cinderella tournament like last year.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
Great thread.
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Originally posted by zipp:
...Ole Miss down 17 points at halftime of their play-in game.

The problem is Spring football practice has already started.

"Elite program", my a$$...
Sounds like I missed what turned out to be a good game. BYU nor Ol'e Miss interest me so I watched a NBA game last night.
 
Classic too early smack thread. Now I wished I had watched the second half. BYU was knocking down 3 pointers left and right. Apparently Ole Miss scored 62 second half points.
 
You are not the only one to turn the channel. I switched over to the Murray St. game and then back to Ole Miss/BYU when Murray's game was over.
 
It was a fantastic 2nd half - will probably hold up as one of the top few games in the tourney.

Ironically, this kind of game is exactly what everyone has been wanting, and it was given to us by 2 mediocre teams. Fast pace, high scoring, lots of made shots, great rhythm, etc. Sadly the next game Ole Miss plays will probably be a 61-57 slogfest.
 
Next time, lets not wait till the half. Start trashing the SEC at the 5 minute mark so you look truly omniscient.
 
Zipp,

March Madness brings in record ratings, interest, and revenue and you want to change it? I found this on forbes.com

"Last year's tourney drew $1.15 billion in ad revenue, according to
Kantar Media, a figure that's expected to increase this year. Helping to
push the numbers is the rising interest in the "First Four," those
preliminary play-in games that determine the last four schools to score
berths in the tournament."

I see what you are saying Zipp, but if it's not broke, don't fix it.

source:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2014/03/20/march-madness-ratings-and-revenue-keep-reaching-new-heights/
 
Was there a game being played last night? Nothing worth even considering. Play-in games are a joke. Just a reason to give bubble teams a chance to say they played in the NCAA. The field should be reduced and have zero play-in games. Teams like Ole Miss don't even deserve to play in the NIT. Same goes for BYU, Hampton and Manhattan. Same goes for the rest of the worthless play-in games that I won't watch.

The biggest joke here is that anyone is making fun of Zipp for laughing at an SEC team for struggling in a play-in game. Is thee some braging rights to be had here? Just dumb.
 
I used to think that the "first four" thing would be a 2 or 3 year experiment. But then VCU happened. Once they went from the first four to the final four I think it's safe to say that it is here for the long haul.
 
Originally posted by KB55:

The thing that gets me is your in a play in game but yet your 11 seed??
Yeah, that perplexes me as well. It's an unfair disadvantage to be an 11 seed, then be forced to play an additional game that two other 11 seeds, no 12, no 13, no 14, no 15 and two 16 seeds don't have to play . It would make more sense to have the first 4 out play the last 4 in.

This post was edited on 3/18 2:45 PM by Steelers2012
 
Originally posted by Steelers2012:

Originally posted by KB55:

The thing that gets me is your in a play in game but yet your 11 seed??
Yeah, that perplexes me as well. It's an unfair disadvantage to be an 11 seed, then be forced to play an additional game that two other 11 seeds, no 12, no 13, no 14, no 15 and two 16 seeds don't have to play . It would make more sense to have the first 4 out play the last 4 in.


This post was edited on 3/18 2:45 PM by Steelers2012
It's not rocket science. The four lowest seeded conference champions are in two play-in games. The four lowest seeded at-large teams are in the other two play-in games.
 
Originally posted by PushupMan:

Originally posted by Steelers2012:


Originally posted by KB55:

The thing that gets me is your in a play in game but yet your 11 seed??
Yeah, that perplexes me as well. It's an unfair disadvantage to be an 11 seed, then be forced to play an additional game that two other 11 seeds, no 12, no 13, no 14, no 15 and two 16 seeds don't have to play . It would make more sense to have the first 4 out play the last 4 in.



This post was edited on 3/18 2:45 PM by Steelers2012
It's not rocket science. The four lowest seeded conference champions are in two play-in games. The four lowest seeded at-large teams are in the other two play-in games.
I know that's how they do it, but just seems weird an 11 seed playing in the play in game. let the 8 lowest seeds play it out
 
Originally posted by KB55:
Originally posted by PushupMan:

Originally posted by Steelers2012:


Originally posted by KB55:

The thing that gets me is your in a play in game but yet your 11 seed??
Yeah, that perplexes me as well. It's an unfair disadvantage to be an 11 seed, then be forced to play an additional game that two other 11 seeds, no 12, no 13, no 14, no 15 and two 16 seeds don't have to play . It would make more sense to have the first 4 out play the last 4 in.



This post was edited on 3/18 2:45 PM by Steelers2012
It's not rocket science. The four lowest seeded conference champions are in two play-in games. The four lowest seeded at-large teams are in the other two play-in games.
I know that's how they do it, but just seems weird an 11 seed playing in the play in game. let the 8 lowest seeds play it out
I tend to agree. An 11 seed like Dayton should not be in a play in game IMO. Seems like the lowest seed 8 teams should battle it out in the extra games as you said.
 
Anyone surprised that the SEC is the only P5 conference with a team in a play in game?

Maybe that's "P5" in name only.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
You can throw the "power 5" thing out the window in March. Last year The SEC accounted for 50% of the Final Four and a team from the AAC or CUSA or something won the title.
 
Originally posted by Rockfly78:
You can throw the "power 5" thing out the window in March. Last year The SEC accounted for 50% of the Final Four and a team from the AAC or CUSA or something won the title. I'm not a fan of the current NCAA tourney format. And all your point proves is that a OAD tourney with parity among the teams delivers flukey results. Look at the two teams in the final last year: 7TH seeded UConn and 8TH seeded LPT.

But the teams INVITED and SEEDED are based on the SEASON'S RESULTS. Except for the AQs, there's nothing flukey about that.

And why would I expect a fan of the one legit SEC basketball program to discredit the validity of the P5? To the contrary, the SEC should lose its NCAA auto-bid.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
The NCAA tourney is perfect. You are entitled to your opinion on that
subject but I think you will be hard pressed to find many people to
agree with you.
 
Yea zipp,
That ACC looking like a real juggernaut out of the gate.
And that's your champ?
"Elite conference MY ass....."
 
OAD tourney results are flukey. The NCAA tourney doesn't produce a NATIONAL champion. It produces a TOURNAMENT champion. Again, look at last year. Anyone think those two teams were the best in the country?
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The BEast at full strength was one of the best conferences of all time, much like the ACC is now.

At the other end of the spectrum, the SEC is the worst P5 conference. And it usually is that poor in basketball each year. SEC teams should consistently be seeded in play in games.

Without LPT, the SEC would be the MAC or CUSA. It's why LPT chooses to play there--easy pickins'.

Any other questions? I'm kinda in a hurry.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
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