Satterfield PC Yesterday

[rentalman]

Was a little surprised by one of his answers yesterday. SS indicated in his opening comments that the team had prepared better the last couple of weeks. Demling asked him what had changed in their preparation. SS said a lot of little things like guys showing up on time and getting treatment when they are supposed to. Huh! Those are the kind of things SS pointed out right after he took over for BP
as to why the team was not successful. You could tell the Press was surprised by this answer and they asked a few follow-ups. He did indicate later that there were consequences for players not doing what they were supposed to be doing. Maybe I making too much out of this but I thought we got past this a long time ago. I guess changing culture can be a long process.

 

[RomanOben]

That’s very surprising and disappointing to hear. I’ve wondered how much discipline might take a backseat at any program in such an unusual year with Covid, racial unrest etc possibly giving players a wider berth from coaches.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

That kinda confirms to me that Bobby just was trying to get fired.

I remember everyone talked about Bobby 1.0 and how disciplined he was as a coach. Someone had made he comment that Bobby would chew people out for not being 15-30 minutes early and Krag was a big looser.

 

[SoulSr]

Bobby 1.0 had Paul as the sheriff. Paul even had one or two players personally escorted to class.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Bobby 1.0 had Paul as the sheriff. Paul even had one or two players personally escorted to class.

Paul & TJ

Plus that was before we were in the ACC. The CUSA/Big East, smart coaching & speed could out gun most everyone else. We didn't have to build a strong line to last a full season, as we weren't playing ACC level guys. That structure was all they needed. Same as Charlie when he was here, he got some good athletes and coached well. Tom handled all the other stuff.

The jump to the ACC was a big hit for Bobby. Charlie left him a deep roster, but he built his staff like it was a Big East staff. Tom gave him money to get the big coordinators and etc., but he did not want anyone that wasn't his guy. In the ACC, you need a strong staff top to bottom. You need quality control guys. You can't just out-scheme teams, you have to have a deep roster. At Arkansas, a lot of those things were in place with all the money they could spend along with just having such good recruits in his back yard.

Bobby wanted it his way. He wanted his coaches, yes men and family members. He wanted to recruit his roster, QBs, skill guys, and all speed with no defense or line depth. He didn't want a bunch of quality control guys or guys that could work hard and recruit. He didn't want to have to manage egos, he wanted to coach. Tom Jurich did a lot of those things for him. TJ covered for a lot of his personal flaws and shielded him from the admin and media.

TJ was out. Bobby had to face questions. Bobby had to answer to a new admin. Bobby had to find his own assistants and manage the entire program himself, an ACC program. His ego was too large and he didn't accept failure, but saw that he was in over his head. The PUMA INT against FSU pretty much turned everyone against him and he was no longer respected. He was the guy always looking for the next big job, but his rep was ruined. None of the big programs came calling. He looked at Louisville as the place that should be thanking him for allowing him to use his "genius" mind. He saw the buyout money and knew he couldn't "quit", so he quit trying.

 

[SoulSr]

Paul & TJ

Plus that was before we were in the ACC. The CUSA/Big East, smart coaching & speed could out gun most everyone else. We didn't have to build a strong line to last a full season, as we weren't playing ACC level guys. That structure was all they needed. Same as Charlie when he was here, he got some good athletes and coached well. Tom handled all the other stuff.

The jump to the ACC was a big hit for Bobby. Charlie left him a deep roster, but he built his staff like it was a Big East staff. Tom gave him money to get the big coordinators and etc., but he did not want anyone that wasn't his guy. In the ACC, you need a strong staff top to bottom. You need quality control guys. You can't just out-scheme teams, you have to have a deep roster. At Arkansas, a lot of those things were in place with all the money they could spend along with just having such good recruits in his back yard.

Bobby wanted it his way. He wanted his coaches, yes men and family members. He wanted to recruit his roster, QBs, skill guys, and all speed with no defense or line depth. He didn't want a bunch of quality control guys or guys that could work hard and recruit. He didn't want to have to manage egos, he wanted to coach. Tom Jurich did a lot of those things for him. TJ covered for a lot of his personal flaws and shielded him from the admin and media.

TJ was out. Bobby had to face questions. Bobby had to answer to a new admin. Bobby had to find his own assistants and manage the entire program himself, an ACC program. His ego was too large and he didn't accept failure, but saw that he was in over his head. The PUMA INT against FSU pretty much turned everyone against him and he was no longer respected. He was the guy always looking for the next big job, but his rep was ruined. None of the big programs came calling. He looked at Louisville as the place that should be thanking him for allowing him to use his "genius" mind. He saw the buyout money and knew he couldn't "quit", so he quit trying.

I agree 100% with your analysis.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

I agree 100% with your analysis.

I just wonder how much of it was due to his relationship with Puma.

Puma was his prized whale. He went down and beat Saban and Auburn for him. That was his guy that played the way he liked. In 2015, preseason no one was talking about Lamar. We were wondering if Bolin or Reggie would take the reigns or if Will Gardner would ever be healthy? Lamar was the wildcard we heard about.

But we ALL were just waiting for Puma. Bobby was hyping Puma. Lamar stole the show and Puma was forgotten a bit, but we all thought Puma would come in and be fine.

Bobby hyped in the summer that we'd be back to 1.0 and be more balanced. But then Puma was awful. Puma about had us lose to Indiana State until Malik saved the day. Malik again saved us against WKU. It was clear Malik was better and the offense was better with him. He had his Alamo moment against FSU, all he had to do was run the ball and we win, he lost.

He had all his plans around Puma and just didn't want Malik to be the guy. And then pretty much gave up and didn't try. I'm sure Bobby had a vision of Dez and Tutu lighting up scoreboards with Puma throwing the ball. And Hawkins as his explosive back. He brought in those guys and knew the talent, but didn't care.

 

[73Card]

Was a little surprised by one of his answers yesterday. SS indicated in his opening comments that the team had prepared better the last couple of weeks. Demling asked him what had changed in their preparation. SS said a lot of little things like guys showing up on time and getting treatment when they are supposed to. Huh! Those are the kind of things SS pointed out right after he took over for BP
as to why the team was not successful. You could tell the Press was surprised by this answer and they asked a few follow-ups. He did indicate later that there were consequences for players not doing what they were supposed to be doing. Maybe I making too much out of this but I thought we got past this a long time ago. I guess changing culture can be a long process.

I think Satt may have misspoke. It appeared to me he tried to walk that comment back later in the presser. Anyway, I was glad to hear him make a point of saying Purdy went 0-9 with our best defensive players on the bench.

 

[rentalman]

I think Satt may have misspoke. It appeared to me he tried to walk that comment back later in the presser. Anyway, I was glad to hear him make a point of saying Purdy went 0-9 with our best defensive players on the bench.

He did sort of walk it back. But I think it was due to the reaction of the Press. I think he knew he may have opened a can of worms. That is the moment in the PC when he threw in that those violating rules faced consequences.

 

[PHCARD]

I have one 19 yr old in our home that I’m trying to coach up in life. I can’t image what it would take with 75 of these dudes in sucks 2020.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Paul & TJ

Plus that was before we were in the ACC. The CUSA/Big East, smart coaching & speed could out gun most everyone else. We didn't have to build a strong line to last a full season, as we weren't playing ACC level guys. That structure was all they needed. Same as Charlie when he was here, he got some good athletes and coached well. Tom handled all the other stuff.

The jump to the ACC was a big hit for Bobby. Charlie left him a deep roster, but he built his staff like it was a Big East staff. Tom gave him money to get the big coordinators and etc., but he did not want anyone that wasn't his guy. In the ACC, you need a strong staff top to bottom. You need quality control guys. You can't just out-scheme teams, you have to have a deep roster. At Arkansas, a lot of those things were in place with all the money they could spend along with just having such good recruits in his back yard.

Bobby wanted it his way. He wanted his coaches, yes men and family members. He wanted to recruit his roster, QBs, skill guys, and all speed with no defense or line depth. He didn't want a bunch of quality control guys or guys that could work hard and recruit. He didn't want to have to manage egos, he wanted to coach. Tom Jurich did a lot of those things for him. TJ covered for a lot of his personal flaws and shielded him from the admin and media.

TJ was out. Bobby had to face questions. Bobby had to answer to a new admin. Bobby had to find his own assistants and manage the entire program himself, an ACC program. His ego was too large and he didn't accept failure, but saw that he was in over his head. The PUMA INT against FSU pretty much turned everyone against him and he was no longer respected. He was the guy always looking for the next big job, but his rep was ruined. None of the big programs came calling. He looked at Louisville as the place that should be thanking him for allowing him to use his "genius" mind. He saw the buyout money and knew he couldn't "quit", so he quit trying.

Looking at what happened with the Falcons, with the Arkansas drama, and what happened at the end at Louisville, I've deduced that Bobby is a Top 10 coach when it's going his way but he folds quickly with adversity. When everything is going his way - he's smashing teams 70-7, Paul's escorting problem players to class, UK is sucking and calling them Slapdicks, he's on the field screaming "MFers!!" at everyone, Lamar jumping over fools and scoring 7 TD's in a game, he's got his Harley to ride and hot volleyball chicks to bend over - all is seemingly well in the world. But that world seems to be very fragile and when it falls apart it happens very quickly.

 

[nccardfan]

Looking at what happened with the Falcons, with the Arkansas drama, and what happened at the end at Louisville, I've deduced that Bobby is a Top 10 coach when it's going his way but he folds quickly with adversity. When everything is going his way - he's smashing teams 70-7, Paul's escorting problem players to class, UK is sucking and calling them Slapdicks, he's on the field screaming "MFers!!" at everyone, Lamar jumping over fools and scoring 7 TD's in a game, he's got his Harley to ride and hot volleyball chicks to bend over - all is seemingly well in the world. But that world seems to be very fragile and when it falls apart it happens very quickly.

Commonality with most narcissists.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Commonality with most narcissists.

Interesting point there. As someone who has dealt with a narcissist (a real one, not someone I just couldn't get along with) you may be on to something there. Although I never picked up on that from Petrino from watching him/hearing him. I did pick up the narcissist vibe from Pitino (I loved the guy as a fan though and I'm still grateful for those fun years - I'm not going to go back and re-write history on how I felt about him as the coach).

 

[nccardfan]

Interesting point there. As someone who has dealt with a narcissist (a real one, not someone I just couldn't get along with) you may be on to something there. Although I never picked up on that from Petrino from watching him/hearing him. I did pick up the narcissist vibe from Pitino (I loved the guy as a fan though and I'm still grateful for those fun years - I'm not going to go back and re-write history on how I felt about him as the coach).

I too have dealt with a true narcissist who was my boss. As long my interests coincided with his, he gave me all of his support. When it changed, I was dirt to him even after nearly 15 years. I consider Rick to be more of a egotist and a perfectionist than a narcissist.