Papa John Calls out UofL Athletic Administration

[Knucklehank1]

http://www.wdrb.com/story/35135739/...uisville-athletics-needs-fix-jurich-invisible

Very interesting. I'm sure Papa John will get lambasted by the fanbase for this, although I think there is some potentially small merit to the comments.

 

[Louisvillian]

http://www.wdrb.com/story/35135739/...uisville-athletics-needs-fix-jurich-invisible

Very interesting. I'm sure Papa John will get lambasted by the fanbase for this, although I think there is some potentially small merit to the comments.

I'll be the first "lambaster" then. Admittedly I've never been much of a fan that blowhard, pretentious jerk Schnatter but to insinuate that Tom Jurich is "invisible" or hard to pin down is laughable. Never before has an Athletic Director much less one that is of Tom's stature been more accessible.

I'll leave the number crunching to others on here with more inside knowledge but to say that Louisville Athletics is a mess that needs fixing sounds like some other recently elected blowhards that are crying out for attention.

Johnny boy is at best a "fair weather" Cardinal fan. Send the money in Pizza Boy and get back to slicing pepperoni. Cardinal Athletics will be just fine.

 

[Knucklehank1]

"Johnny boy is at best a "fair weather" Cardinal fan."

I agree that he is a pretentious jerk. However he isn't on the Board of Trustees to be a good Cardinal fan. His position is to ensure proper governance and oversight of the university. I think it is fair to say that the athletic department was given huge autonomy by the former President Ramsey and the prior Board. That autonomy has perhaps allowed the university to achieve rapid upward trajectory in athletics. But it is also important that athletics not be the tail that wags the dog. There needs to be proper balance between the academic and athletic sides in terms of their financial and operational health.

 

[Sawyer]

I'll be the first "lambaster" then. Admittedly I've never been much of a fan that blowhard, pretentious jerk Schnatter but to insinuate that Tom Jurich is "invisible" or hard to pin down is laughable. Never before has an Athletic Director much less one that is of Tom's stature been more accessible.

I'll leave the number crunching to others on here with more inside knowledge but to say that Louisville Athletics is a mess that needs fixing sounds like some other recently elected blowhards that are crying out for attention.

Johnny boy is at best a "fair weather" Cardinal fan. Send the money in Pizza Boy and get back to slicing pepperoni. Cardinal Athletics will be just fine.

Since when did having a winning mandate for all coaches, improving the athletic facilities to a level next to none, positioning your university in a major five power conference and competing as one of the top 25 overall athletic departments in the country year, end and year out, appear to be invisible. I would say Papa needs to have his eyes examined and his ego checked.

 

[kypecos]

I took it as more of an indictment of previous Boards that never asked questions, considered it a status position, and just assumed that everything was working out fine (which it was not). And an acknowledgement of how important athletics is to the University. Have absolutely NO problem with the new Directors asking hard questions and becoming more involved in ensuring proper management.
Do not believe the context was an indictment of Jurich -- but it may have been a shot at the increasing expenditures (especially the PJCS expansion) and salaries by the Athletic Department -- which would require explanations by Jurich but not necessarily criticism. Schnatter and Jurich both have big egos but don't see this being a problem. Just one example of a Director doing what he is actually supposed to be doing. Jurich will do the same and respond as requested and everything will be fine. But I was surprised to learn at how much of a shoestring the expansion is being built upon until Schnatter's question.

 

[wilkie01]

Just a though, Tom Jurich was originally hired to fire Ron Cooper and Denny Crum, because of the NCAA problems that both teams were having. He was charged with maintaining the cleanest programs in the NCAA. So how clean are Pitino and Hurt? How about the Wake Forest mess? There may be some fire with this smoke. The Louisville BOD will not want the NCAA camping at U of L like they were at UNLV, back in the day. Hookers, strippers, and wife beating got Cooper fired Crum got fired for recruiting violations, sexual favors to the players by "the Louisville Ladies", and alleged illegal benefit for players, pay to their parents and free cars. So we wait to see where this is headed. Remember that Pitino and Jurich were both Ramsey's Golden Boys. We all know what happen to Ramsey. Look for a special state audit of the Athletic Department, just like The Louisville Foundation and The Medical School received. I hope I am wrong, but I have been hearing that a clean was coming soon.

 

[Louisvillian]

"Johnny boy is at best a "fair weather" Cardinal fan."

I agree that he is a pretentious jerk. However he isn't on the Board of Trustees to be a good Cardinal fan. His position is to ensure proper governance and oversight of the university. I think it is fair to say that the athletic department was given huge autonomy by the former President Ramsey and the prior Board. That autonomy has perhaps allowed the university to achieve rapid upward trajectory in athletics. But it is also important that athletics not be the tail that wags the dog. There needs to be proper balance between the academic and athletic sides in terms of their financial and operational health.

Well the "fair weathered fan" comment was meant to be humorous. He gave up the money and can be whatever he wants. I get it. I also get that everyone on the board has a job to do. What rankles my ass is Johnny boy suddenly dropping hints that the man who makes everything go in UofL Athletics, Mr Jurich (sorry Pizza Boy, it's not you) is suddenly not available to explain how Cardinal Athletics is suddenly going off the rails.

Then when Mr Pretentious has a chance to explain when a reporter from WDRB asked him about the mess that needs fixing at UofL, the jerk answered "go read the paper". Sounds like the same crap the man who appointed Johnny boy to the board likes to spew.

And yes I'm definitely a homer with really good radar when it comes to people who truly care about UofL Athletics. Taking shots at Tom Jurich in an open forum without the big guy there is Bush League, just like Papa John's marinara sauce.

 

[Louisvillian]

I would say Papa needs to have his eyes examined and his ego checked.

No doubt. I guess when your a ham on TV for 7 straight months yukking it up with Peyton Manning and Joe Montana, plus buzzing your Anchorage neighbors rooftops in your custom Helicopter in the evenings without reprisal, an ego knows no bounds.

 

[Steelers2012]

It would appear that John Schnatter spoke out of turn, as well as "mischaracterized" his conversation with interim President Dr. Greg Postel, to whom he attributed the "invisible" quote to. It also seems that many in the media (including social media) are inaccurately attributing the "invisible" quote to John Schnatter himself; which is in itself a mischaracterization. "Schnatter attributed the invisible label to a conversation he had with interim President Dr. Greg Postel".

https://louisville.rivals.com/news/insulting-jurich-is-a-terrible-idea

 

[EasyCard]

"Johnny boy is at best a "fair weather" Cardinal fan."

I agree that he is a pretentious jerk. However he isn't on the Board of Trustees to be a good Cardinal fan. His position is to ensure proper governance and oversight of the university. I think it is fair to say that the athletic department was given huge autonomy by the former President Ramsey and the prior Board. That autonomy has perhaps allowed the university to achieve rapid upward trajectory in athletics. But it is also important that athletics not be the tail that wags the dog. There needs to be proper balance between the academic and athletic sides in terms of their financial and operational health.

I took it as more of an indictment of previous Boards that never asked questions, considered it a status position, and just assumed that everything was working out fine (which it was not). And an acknowledgement of how important athletics is to the University. Have absolutely NO problem with the new Directors asking hard questions and becoming more involved in ensuring proper management.
Do not believe the context was an indictment of Jurich -- but it may have been a shot at the increasing expenditures (especially the PJCS expansion) and salaries by the Athletic Department -- which would require explanations by Jurich but not necessarily criticism. Schnatter and Jurich both have big egos but don't see this being a problem. Just one example of a Director doing what he is actually supposed to be doing. Jurich will do the same and respond as requested and everything will be fine. But I was surprised to learn at how much of a shoestring the expansion is being built upon until Schnatter's question.

how can you have a financial opinion on the athletic department? Do you know future revenue projections? Do you know how much UofL will be rewarded next year in March Madness credits? Do you how much Louisville will be paying in rent for Yum? I don't. What athletic department has a lot of cash? Any not-for-profit org with a lot of cash isn't fulfilling its mission.

Although I "hear" from different people revenues are expected to increase from multiple sources. I don't know the term "shoestring" means but I do know everything was built "before" ACC membership. I doubt the Louisville AD was flush with cash for all that expansion in facilities. Thank God Jurich had the vision to build by his shoestrings before the Yum center/ACC huge increase in revenues or we'd have watched UConn join the the ACC instead of us.

Couldn't this be as simple as John crying over not have a place to peel-out in his camero during games?

 

[wilkie01]

I think we all know that there are issues at Louisville right now. They will be fixed soon, hence there is no need for us to be rude to each other.

 

[zipp]

As far as the BOT meeting and the athletic dept., there's little or no evidence that...

• The department has financial issues.

• The BOT meeting presented the right forum to raise financial issues (evidence of problems, key players in attendance, etc.)

• Non-financial issues are systemic and haven't been addressed.

• There's been a carryover of issues from bygone times.

wilkie and kypecos are obviously free to reference legit issues that they think the athletic dept. has. And the rest of us are OK to debate those. No one's being "rude" just because they're in disagreement. What I've seen so far from naysayers doesn't qualify as evidence of anything...

 

[gocds]

I think we all know that there are issues at Louisville right now. They will be fixed soon, hence there is no need for us to be rude to each other.

Yes, wilkie01 you are right. Sometimes we forget that at the end of the day we are all UofL fans and I apologize in advance.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[BPGhost]

how can you have a financial opinion on the athletic department? Do you know future revenue projections? Do you know how much UofL will be rewarded next year in March Madness credits? Do you how much Louisville will be paying in rent for Yum? I don't. What athletic department has a lot of cash? Any not-for-profit org with a lot of cash isn't fulfilling its mission.

Although I "hear" from different people revenues are expected to increase from multiple sources. I don't know the term "shoestring" means but I do know everything was built "before" ACC membership. I doubt the Louisville AD was flush with cash for all that expansion in facilities. Thank God Jurich had the vision to build by his shoestrings before the Yum center/ACC huge increase in revenues or we'd have watched UConn join the the ACC instead of us.

Couldn't this be as simple as John crying over not have a place to peel-out in his camero during games?

Unless I misunderstood, schnatter's shoestring quote was about the university's budget / reserves - not the athletic department. He also threw in some snarky comment comparing the stadium expansion being fully funded with the university being in a 'poor' cash position.

Not knowing what (if anything) he's done as far as donations to the university - but given his spending to the athletic department, that's potentially a pretty ironic statement from him.

 

[Steelers2012]

LoL! A few fans on Facebook are calling for a boycott of Papa John's pizza at the Spring Game tomorrow. It feels weird to experience a little UofL vs Papa John feud. He's kind of been a National UofL mascot for a long time now.

 

[teamcanada]

Just a though, Tom Jurich was originally hired to fire Ron Cooper and Denny Crum, because of the NCAA problems that both teams were having. He was charged with maintaining the cleanest programs in the NCAA. So how clean are Pitino and Hurt? How about the Wake Forest mess? There may be some fire with this smoke. The Louisville BOD will not want the NCAA camping at U of L like they were at UNLV, back in the day. Hookers, strippers, and wife beating got Cooper fired Crum got fired for recruiting violations, sexual favors to the players by "the Louisville Ladies", and alleged illegal benefit for players, pay to their parents and free cars. So we wait to see where this is headed. Remember that Pitino and Jurich were both Ramsey's Golden Boys. We all know what happen to Ramsey. Look for a special state audit of the Athletic Department, just like The Louisville Foundation and The Medical School received. I hope I am wrong, but I have been hearing that a clean was coming soon.

Crum and Cooper got fired because they weren't winning.

 

[gocds]

Just a though, Tom Jurich was originally hired to fire Ron Cooper and Denny Crum, because of the NCAA problems that both teams were having. He was charged with maintaining the cleanest programs in the NCAA. So how clean are Pitino and Hurt? How about the Wake Forest mess? There may be some fire with this smoke. The Louisville BOD will not want the NCAA camping at U of L like they were at UNLV, back in the day. Hookers, strippers, and wife beating got Cooper fired Crum got fired for recruiting violations, sexual favors to the players by "the Louisville Ladies", and alleged illegal benefit for players, pay to their parents and free cars. So we wait to see where this is headed. Remember that Pitino and Jurich were both Ramsey's Golden Boys. We all know what happen to Ramsey. Look for a special state audit of the Athletic Department, just like The Louisville Foundation and The Medical School received. I hope I am wrong, but I have been hearing that a clean was coming soon.

First things first wilkie01. Ron Cooper was fired because he was a loser as a head football coach. UofL football was NOT under NCAA investigation at the time. Tom actually tried to keep Denny but coach Crum decided that he did not want a boss, any boss. And, by the way, officially Denny was retired, not fired. But all that aside you've give us ALL of the reasons for the recent problems so what would be your solutions to all of those problems you mentioned. Please enlighten us.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[wilkie01]

If, Louisville and Papa John's pizza have a parting of ways, how long do we to keep their on the stadium?

 

[uoflcardsfan]

Papa Johns Pizza sucks, when we have pizza at our house it's either Wicks or Bearnos but with that being said i think Papa is a great businessman but he looked foolish when he harped on the 10 day money issue and was finally corrected and was told it was 35 days then he was like, oh okay so it's 35 days and laughed. Papa should have his facts straight if he's going to run his mouth. For anyone to question Tom Jurich and say that he doesn't have all student athletes , UofL and UofL fans best interest at heart is just crazy to me.

 

[gocds]

If, Louisville and Papa John's pizza have a parting of ways, how long do we to keep their on the stadium?

I believe it is thru 2042. WTH I'll be dead by then or 99 years old.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[zipp]

Not sure about the accuracy of this info, but the deal with PJ is reportedly thru 2040...

Naming rights

 

[Birdie King]

LoL! A few fans on Facebook are calling for a boycott of Papa John's pizza at the Spring Game tomorrow. It feels weird to experience a little UofL vs Papa John feud. He's kind of been a National UofL mascot for a long time now.

Until he explains himself to my satisfaction I, nor anyone in my family, will ever eat a Papa John's pizza again !