And most of the individuals that I believe Mac is hoping will contribute somehow,some way are the veteran pitchers that have had success in years past,not necessarily this season. Those guys are the key. I've named them before but it starts with Koger,Ligget and Phillips. We're all hoping to see the best of what we know they had before this season.There have been brief periods this season where individuals performed at levels that would suggest that some post season success might be a possibility. The problem is the inconsistency. EK Jr services as an example, as early on many of us questioned his contribution was worthy of a starting role. Here of late, he appears to be stepping up to his projected ability.