Moses Brown comment

[TheRealVille]

Says it all about UK, his likely destination. "A place you go and develop then leave". In other words, academics and championships are not as important as getting ready for the NBA. That my friends, is what a minor league or D- league is for, not college basketball. Now the kids don't mince words on their motives. HS seniors should be eligible for the draft.

 

[Cue Card]

Says it all about UK, his likely destination. "A place you go and develop then leave". In other words, academics and championships are not as important as getting ready for the NBA. That my friends, is what a minor league or D- league is for, not college basketball. Now the kids don't mince words on their motives. HS seniors should be eligible for the draft.

I 100% agree. It is a crying shame what has happened to the game of college basketball. The NBA rule of not allowing 18 year old kids to apply for a job has set the table for some college programs to cut corners in order to accommodate them until they're 19 then they go pro.

It's only a handful but IMO it cheapens the integrity of the game. The NCAA has chosen to ignore the issue instead of addressing it. The NBA rule is a NCAA problem. It won't be fixed until the NCAA decides to act. The NCAA won't act because so far, it's not a problem in their eyes. Academic integrity means nothing.

 

[BoNicholas]

Integrity of the game? You all have got to be kidding.

 

[ThroughBlue]

No one has the right to decide when the kid can apply for the NBA. Whether that be after high school or after one two three or four years of college ball.

 

[SoulSr]

No one has the right to decide when the kid can apply for the NBA. Whether that be after high school or after one two three or four years of college ball.

UNFORTUNATELY THE NBA DOES.

 

[TheRealVille]

The NBA does have that right. It's their league, their rules. The NCAA could do something though. There's been several ideas but the only real effective way is make it worthwhile for schools not to have so many two semester only student athletes.

 

[rockycard]

The NBA does have that right. It's their league, their rules. The NCAA could do something though. There's been several ideas but the only real effective way is make it worthwhile for schools not to have so many two semester only student athletes.

I've even heard mention about making freshmen ineligible again...that would suck

 

[HRTheCard]

I've even heard mention about making freshmen ineligible again...that would suck

That would be hilarious because that would open up the door. Not everyone would go to Duke, Uk, UNC, Kansas, blue-bloods to just leave after one year. You'd see way more spread out at that point I would think.

 

[rockycard]

That would be hilarious because that would open up the door. Not everyone would go to Duke, Uk, UNC, Kansas, blue-bloods to just leave after one year. You'd see way more spread out at that point I would think.

It would be funny, but that would also stink for fans that aren't in the one and done factories. The four years of Russ were awesome and I wouldn't want those situations to ever change.

Does anyone know the reason that they had that rule years ago?

 

[earsky]

Does anyone know the reason that they had that rule years ago?

A quick google search backed up what I remember hearing about the rule,which was its intent to let Freshmen adjust to the academic side of college life.
Can you imagine how contradictory that is to the rule now?lol

 

[KerryRhodes]

No one has the right to decide when the kid can apply for the NBA. Whether that be after high school or after one two three or four years of college ball.

You couldn't be more wrong.

The NBA is an employer who set any age rules they can.
You know you cant run for President unless youre a minimum age of 35.
You cant work in a Liquor store unless youre 21.

The NBA had a proposal of not eligible for the draft until youre 20 and or two years removed from High School. Suprisngly, the Players union vetoed it.

MLB rules state, you may enter their draft at 18, unless you attend College, then you
have to wait until 3 years removed.

NFL rules states you must be 3 years removed from HS.
Eric Swann (?) challenged it all the way to the Supreme Court and lost.

Employers can set whatever rules they want when offering employment.

 

[Cue Card]

You couldn't be more wrong.

The NBA is an employer who set any age rules they can.
You know you cant run for President unless youre a minimum age of 35.
You cant work in a Liquor store unless youre 21.

The NBA had a proposal of not eligible for the draft until youre 20 and or two years removed from High School. Suprisngly, the Players union vetoed it.

MLB rules state, you may enter their draft at 18, unless you attend College, then you
have to wait until 3 years removed.

NFL rules states you must be 3 years removed from HS.
Eric Swann (?) challenged it all the way to the Supreme Court and lost.

Employers can set whatever rules they want when offering employment.

100% spot on accurate. The NBA has the right to set the rules as they see fit. The NCAA has the same right.

The NCAA could counter the NBA rule by making all freshmen ineligible to play. That would put a stop to the few who continue to skate around the true student-athlete experience. These kids are supposed to be students while playing a game for the right to go to school. School was never supposed to be a tryout platform to play professional sports after one semester year.

JMO.

 

[KozmasAgain]

I always thought sUcK and programs like them would be undone by the graduation rule. Unfortunately the NCAA set it up to where your academics or graduation rate really doesn't matter.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Make all players academic record extend a minimum of 3 years. The school would have to factor in 4 or 5 semesters of 0.00 gpa's to factor into their APR.

Of course a dismissal or drop out wouldn't count

That ought to fix it.

 

[CardsFirst]

Says it all about UK, his likely destination. "A place you go and develop then leave". In other words, academics and championships are not as important as getting ready for the NBA. That my friends, is what a minor league or D- league is for, not college basketball. Now the kids don't mince words on their motives. HS seniors should be eligible for the draft.

I 100% agree. It is a crying shame what has happened to the game of college basketball. The NBA rule of not allowing 18 year old kids to apply for a job has set the table for some college programs to cut corners in order to accommodate them until they're 19 then they go pro.

It's only a handful but IMO it cheapens the integrity of the game. The NCAA has chosen to ignore the issue instead of addressing it. The NBA rule is a NCAA problem. It won't be fixed until the NCAA decides to act. The NCAA won't act because so far, it's not a problem in their eyes. Academic integrity means nothing.

Why not let them go straight from HS to the D league. If they have what it takes they'll move up if not oh well. But at the end of the day I don't really care as long as we continue doing it the way we do. If others schools want to gamble on 4 or 5 one dones who cares. And it is a gamble.

 

[ShortCreek]

I think the rule to earn a living should be challenged in court. I look forward to seeing the NBA lose that battle one day.

 

[Boom Boys 13]

If they can't be eligible for the draft out of HS, at the very least, they should have to stay 2 years. If they leave before graduating, they should pay the school back for all tuition and other benefits received while at the school. That will keep the players that have no business leaving early in school.

 

[KerryRhodes]

I think the rule to earn a living should be challenged in court. I look forward to seeing the NBA lose that battle one day.

Will never happen.
The NFL was challenged and they prevailed.

 

[zipp]

I like the rule the way it is. It isn't having a meaningful effect on Duke or LPT as far as their competitiveness. No one's afraid of LPT at this point, and Duke is still unproven.

There's very little the NCAA can do in response to the NBA. Freshman ineligibility won't happen. It would further water down the quality of talent in college basketball and open up the NCAA to additional scrutiny over how it victimizes student-athletes...

 

[ThroughBlue]

100% spot on accurate. The NBA has the right to set the rules as they see fit. The NCAA has the same right.

The NCAA could counter the NBA rule by making all freshmen ineligible to play. That would put a stop to the few who continue to skate around the true student-athlete experience. These kids are supposed to be students while playing a game for the right to go to school. School was never supposed to be a tryout platform to play professional sports after one semester year.

JMO.

It's not a tryout platform. It's kids only option unless they want to leave their home country for a year.

 

[Cue Card]

It's not a tryout platform. It's kids only option unless they want to leave their home country for a year.

Not true. They can go to the NBDL or better known today as the G-league. They do have choices, but as long as the NCAA allows the few who take advantage by providing that platform with open arms, then it's not going to change. As it stands right now, the NCAA doesn't see this as a problem that is worthy of action.

 

[flyercard]

I've even heard mention about making freshmen ineligible again...that would suck

That day is long gone.

 

[beasleythecard]

We just need a coach who can balance out projects and getting alpha dogs to help us compete. Pitino has been able to dance with this rather well.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Not true. They can go to the NBDL or better known today as the G-league. They do have choices, but as long as the NCAA allows the few who take advantage by providing that platform with open arms, then it's not going to change. As it stands right now, the NCAA doesn't see this as a problem that is worthy of action.

They can't go to the d league out of high school. D league is part of the NBA.

 

[iamthewest]

but what athlete really want to go to college though? why yall trippin on them wanting to be one and done? and then we get back into the realm of paying these cats.

 

[Cue Card]

They can't go to the d league out of high school. D league is part of the NBA.

You are wrong. The NBDL is open to 18 year olds. Read the article. Learn.

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2016/10/10/13212046/high-school-nba-dleague-college-ncaa

"However, this concept would be a great time to introduce the the D-League, as their entrance age is 18. If kids don’t want to go to college, but want to make money, the D-League would be the best route. Sure, going overseas and making $300,000 like Brandon Jennings did seem ideal, but starting out in the D-League would be the best option possible. Players would get to play under NBA rules while receiving coaching advice from some of the smartest basketball minds in the world. So if players do not possess the mental and physical maturity, the D-League will be the best way to help shape them for the pros."

 

[Cue Card]

Why not let them go straight from HS to the D league. If they have what it takes they'll move up if not oh well. But at the end of the day I don't really care as long as we continue doing it the way we do. If others schools want to gamble on 4 or 5 one dones who cares. And it is a gamble.

They can if they want. The real question to ask is why those select few who could go to the D league and earn a paycheck above board choose to go to college for a semester or two instead?

Could it possibly be because they get paid more under the table as they make a mockery of the student-athlete ideology? Seems like a legitimate question to me.

 

[ThroughBlue]

You are wrong. The NBDL is open to 18 year olds. Read the article. Learn.

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2016/10/10/13212046/high-school-nba-dleague-college-ncaa

"However, this concept would be a great time to introduce the the D-League, as their entrance age is 18. If kids don’t want to go to college, but want to make money, the D-League would be the best route. Sure, going overseas and making $300,000 like Brandon Jennings did seem ideal, but starting out in the D-League would be the best option possible. Players would get to play under NBA rules while receiving coaching advice from some of the smartest basketball minds in the world. So if players do not possess the mental and physical maturity, the D-League will be the best way to help shape them for the pros."

Anyone ever done this notably? I can't think of any of the top of my head

 

[CardsFirst]

Why not let them go straight from HS to the D league. If they have what it takes they'll move up if not oh well. But at the end of the day I don't really care as long as we continue doing it the way we do. If others schools want to gamble on 4 or 5 one dones who cares. And it is a gamble.

They can if they want. The real question to ask is why those select few who could go to the D league and earn a paycheck above board choose to go to college for a semester or two instead?

Could it possibly be because they get paid more under the table as they make a mockery of the student-athlete ideology? Seems like a legitimate question to me.

Didn't realize they could go straight to the D league. Makes you wonder what their motives are. Very interesting.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Didn't realize they could go straight to the D league. Makes you wonder what their motives are. Very interesting.

Colleges pay more............

 

[Deeva]

Integrity of the game? You all have got to be kidding.

What point are YOU trying to make?