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LPT v. Florida...

zipp

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The Gators get outrebounded by 18 against the nation's 38th ranked team in rebounding margin.

They shoot 37% against the nation's 126th ranked team in FG shooting percentage defense. (Liberty, Tulsa, and Penn State are ranked 123rd, 124th, and 125th, respectively.)

Gotta love SEC basketball. Good win, slappies.

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
Thanks zip. We needed that win without Fox. Actually played something that resembled a defense.
 
Also bear in mind that at this point in the season, most of the stats in the OP are racked up against OTHER teams from the SEC.

Can't make this stuff up. (Otherwise, I'd try.)

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
I believe the home cooking afforded uahkay by the $ec officials was over the top.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
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Could be re. the officiating. But I tend to look at these things more from the top down unless/until I deep-dive the stats. And here's how I saw the possible explanations for this game's outcome...

1. Florida's just another $hit SEC basketball team. (Their only good win was over LPT...)
2. Florida had a bad game.
3(a). LPT had a good game with no easily assignable cause.
3(b). LPT has improved.

1 and 2 have to do with Florida and have little or nothing to do with LPT. 3(a) and 3(b) are just the opposite. Both mean LPT's play was the determining factor, but 3(a) is not an outcome you can count on going forward.

Based on the two stats I quoted in the OP--which are important and different from most of LPT's opponents--my take is that the result was likely due to number 2, that Florida just had a bad game. I'm giving the Gators the benefit of the doubt that they're actually a better team than they showed yesterday albeit with little proof. They could in reality be "another $hit SEC basketball team."

Next most likely IMO is 3(a), that LPT simply had a better-than-expected game. But unless there's an assignable cause--a "tweak" or "reboot" :) --it's nothing you can bank on. I'll let an LPT apologist at this point try to make the case for 3(b).

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
Could be re. the officiating. But I tend to look at these things more from the top down unless/until I deep-dive the stats. And here's how I saw the possible explanations for this game's outcome...

1. Florida's just another $hit SEC basketball team. (Their only good win was over LPT...)
2. Florida had a bad game.
3(a). LPT had a good game with no easily assignable cause.
3(b). LPT has improved.

1 and 2 have to do with Florida and have little or nothing to do with LPT. 3(a) and 3(b) are just the opposite. Both mean LPT's play was the determining factor, but 3(a) is not an outcome you can count on going forward.

Based on the two stats I quoted in the OP--which are important and different from most of LPT's opponents--my take is that the result was likely due to number 2, that Florida just had a bad game. I'm giving the Gators the benefit of the doubt that they're actually a better team than they showed yesterday albeit with little proof. They could in reality be "another $hit SEC basketball team."

Next most likely IMO is 3(a), that LPT simply had a better-than-expected game. But unless there's an assignable cause--a "tweak" or "reboot" :) --it's nothing you can bank on. I'll let an LPT apologist at this point try to make the case for 3(b).

"Elite program", my a$$...
Their leading rebounder is out for the year so that probably had a some impact on the backboards
 
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Kenpom is really high on both teams. We'll see how it plays out in March when the games count. Right now it's all white noise.
 
Why so much hate for UK? Something personal? You seem to spend more time writing derogatory things about an opposing school, than anything having to do with the one you support. Are you this negative in person?
 
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Why so much hate for UK? Something personal? You seem to spend more time writing derogatory things about an opposing school, than anything having to do with the one you support. Are you this negative in person?
Because it causes people like you to comment
 
Kenpom is really high on both teams. We'll see how it plays out in March when the games count. Right now it's all white noise.
Yep. It could be that it's the start of something good for LPT, 3(b). The issue today is you don't know.

I'm sure we'll hear a lot more optimism than that from many people this week.

Welcome back!...
 
The joke is that Lunardi moved them to a 2 seed based on a home court win..
Lunardi is as good as you or me when determining seeds. His big thing is usually getting the teams that get in right. He didn't even change his numbers to reflect what thhe committee actually showed
 
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Yep. It could be that it's the start of something good for LPT, 3(b). The issue today is you don't know.

I'm sure we'll hear a lot more optimism than that from many people this week.

Welcome back!...

Thanks sir. Been crazy busy at work.

My main worry with UK is that there is a major lack of inside presence. Monk is maybe the most dangerous offensive weapon in the country when he is on, but Bam is the only guy in the paint who is above average. He has looked quite a bit better over the last few games and he's the reason we won the 2 games Monk forgot to show up for, so there is some encouragement there.

If we have learned anything over the years, it's that the tourney is a crapshoot. UK is probably more talented this year than they were in 2011 and that team ran to the Final Four, so we'll see what happens.

I really like Louisville to make a deep run. I think CRP is due.
 
Yep. It could be that it's the start of something good for LPT, 3(b). The issue today is you don't know.

I'm sure we'll hear a lot more optimism than that from many people this week.

Welcome back!...

FWIW zipp I'll take 3a in this case, with the caveat that we can assign Monk going Steph Curry in the 2nd half as the cause. However, that isn't something that can be counted on game in and game out, especially in the tourney.
 
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Why so much hate for UK? Something personal? You seem to spend more time writing derogatory things about an opposing school, than anything having to do with the one you support. Are you this negative in person?
You're joking right? A yut fan lecturing anyone on "hateful" posts towards other universities? You may want to start your lessons in civility with the hillbillies over at raftards - where 1 in 10 threads is started to bash UofL athletics, it's current and former players, it's coaches, it's facilities, the university, it's administrators or, simply the city. Try taking a look in the mirror as well - you have dozens of "hateful" posts on those threads.

Idiot.
 
I'd love to be a 1, depending on the draw, but I'd be ecstatic with the 2 seed out West if it meant having Gonzaga, Villanova and a Florida as the 1, 3, and 4 in the bracket, for example. I'm hoping the selection committee at least watched a few games this year and gets the bracket correct. Last year was horrendous.
Louisville will be a 1 seed, IMO. I see them winning out and teams ahead of them losing.
 
If Louisville wins out now--incl. the ACC tourney--and with Carolina losing, I think Louisville gets a one-seed. Otherwise, I think Carolina keeps it.

Unless both teams cave, I think either UNC or Louisville gets a one-seed...
 
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This will be the ACC Tournament bracket if the Sagarin favorite wins the remaining 13 ACC games:

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Virginia. I'm scared. But Im also sure Pitino will have them ready when the season seeding is on the line.



Game by Game Cards!
 
And if Duke beats them?
If Louisville wins out incl. the tourney, I think Louisville gets a one-seed. If Duke wins on Saturday and neither Carolina nor Louisville wins the ACC tourney, I don't think an ACC team gets a one seed.

That's unless chaos reins everywhere else in college basketball and the conference tournaments. Then, who knows?...
 
If neither UNC or the Cards win the ACC tournament and UNC loses to Duke then it is likely the PAC10 champ, UCLA, Oregon or Arizona gets a 1 seed.
 
I would assume no one has a "lock" on anything... Last week, Duke was coming back strong. Then, two losses. This week, Carolina was rising with a bullet. And they could easily have two more losses by Saturday nite.

If the selection committee gives the conference tourneys much consideration--and there's gonna be some good tournament matchups on neutral courts--there could indeed by chaos by next Sunday...
 
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Actually I see us as a 4 seed in the ACC tourney which gives us a much better road to the ACC title game. That, in my opinion, would give us a better shot at a one seed in the NCAA tourney.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
This year the difference between a 1 and 2 seed is very minimal, there are a lot of good but not great teams.
 
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Nothing new with carolina or for the most part all the top teams seems to be a big difference when playing on the road. Carolina has lost all their road games.
 
The only thing that is a lock is Kentucky and Louisville in the same region. Everything else is wide open at this point
 
I think they feel that Kansas is a lock for a No. 1 seed by virtue of already winning the conference outright. They will probably also get a bye in their tournament so even losing their 1st game may not be enough to drop them off the 1 line. Kansas should have lost last night.
 
I think they feel that Kansas is a lock for a No. 1 seed by virtue of already winning the conference outright. They will probably also get a bye in their tournament so even losing their 1st game may not be enough to drop them off the 1 line. Kansas should have lost last night.

I know you guys love to rip on the SEC (and its definitely deserved,) but how about the Big 12? I'm sorry, but if a team wins a conference for 13 straight years, it's a crappy conference.
 
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