Les Miles fired

[Louisvillian]

10 out of 10? Really? Name one.

Oh I see, playing dense on the obvious choice based on coaching abilities. You must be leaning on the morality card when denying the difference between Les Miles and Bobby Petrino.

No reason to believe that Les is not a decent guy but good grief, BP's worst enemies in the sport of football would pick him over goofy Les Miles when it comes to Head Coaching ability. That also doesn't mean that Miles is not a knowledgeable football man, just not in Bobby's neighborhood.

You know that though.

 

[Louisvillian]

Seriously? You mean the LSU AD who hired Miles in 2005 rather than petrino? And Jurich who has never had a prayer of hiring him?

Going all the way back to 2005? Wow, good job comparing apples to bowling balls. Looks like the LSU AD realized his mistake about 4 years too late

Good one though.

 

[CardLaw]

Oh I see, playing dense on the obvious choice based on coaching abilities. You must be leaning on the morality card when denying the difference between Les Miles and Bobby Petrino.

No reason to believe that Les is not a decent guy but good grief, BP's worst enemies in the sport of football would pick him over goofy Les Miles when it comes to Head Coaching ability. That also doesn't mean that Miles is not a knowledgeable football man, just not in Bobby's neighborhood.

You know that though.

Miles has won a national championship and coached in another. So let me see ... would I want a coach who has accomplished the goal, or one who has not? Hmmm?

 

[Louisvillian]

Miles has won a national championship and coached in another. So let me see ... would I want a coach who has accomplished the goal, or one who has not? Hmmm?

You mean that National Championship team that lost in the regular season to Arkansas while giving up a half a hundred points and to Kentucky? Kentucky!

You really think that with equal talent that Les is as good coach as Bobby? Of course you don't. You're cute though going from stat nerd to Mr Obtuse like that to fit your pro SEC-anti-Petrino agenda.

 

[BPGhost]

Seriously? You mean the LSU AD who hired Miles in 2005 rather than petrino? And Jurich who has never had a prayer of hiring him?

Again, just another response that makes me wonder how much your legal malpractice insurance carrier has shelled out from defrauded clients, as clearly you are either an abject and intellectually bankrupt liar or, simply an obtuse simpleton.

Strike Eleven - Joe Alleva - LSU's AD that just fired Miles wasn't hired until 2008.

Strike Twelve - Petrino was Louisville's coach in 2005 - had Jurich been interested in Miles over Petrino, he could have offered him the job then and there. That he didn't speaks to his choice and again, your stupidity.

 

[BPGhost]

No. Better.

And from "stat nerd" to you having NOTHING to offer in defense of lover boy. As Bill Parcels said, your record says who you are. So far it is Les Miles two national championship games and one title; EZ rider Zip. And, just for the record, when LSU hired Miles over cheatin' man, Miles had a 28-21 lifetime record and was coming off a 7-5 season at Okie State in 2004. Apparently even the mean ole SEC was more interested in character and thought that would be better and it proved correct seeing as Miles had a better win percentage in the SEC west than your little boy. By what subjective measure is your boy better? Miles will get another job for 2017 and not an eye will be blinked. But if Fist Catcher takes another job, the national media will run plenty of "WTF were they thinking" stories.

I will admit, Coach Miles has a blind spot when it come to QB. He just does. The offense he wants needs a pocket guy and he keep recruiting duals. Doesn't work. He is also a bit unorthodox in game management. But, the man can coach. You started by saying he "sucks". Nick Saban, among others, disagrees with you. You cannot defend the indefensible and saying silly things like "10 out of 10" would prefer liar boy doesn't help.

Only on a UofL board could someone be attacked for saying "you get to keep your coach". Jurich was right - this is a fragile fan base. I'd call it psychotic. Only on a UL board could someone say a national champion coach "sucks" and then be offended for being called on it. Only on a UL board could someone argue that their coach who has never accomplished anything is better than a coach who has won it all.

How funny that a complete an utter nobody has the gall to ridicule a person who has accomplished 100X more in his life than he ever will. Stay in your tiny, sad little life Gump-law, you've earned your anonymous mediocrity through the sheer force of your character and acumen.

On a side note - Mods - How is it that this individual is allowed to post the comments regarding Louisville's coach on this board and not be banned??

 

[Louisvillian]

No. Better.

And from "stat nerd" to you having NOTHING to offer in defense of lover boy. As Bill Parcels said, your record says who you are. So far it is Les Miles two national championship games and one title; EZ rider Zip. And, just for the record, when LSU hired Miles over cheatin' man, Miles had a 28-21 lifetime record and was coming off a 7-5 season at Okie State in 2004. Apparently even the mean ole SEC was more interested in character and thought that would be better and it proved correct seeing as Miles had a better win percentage in the SEC west than your little boy. By what subjective measure is your boy better? Miles will get another job for 2017 and not an eye will be blinked. But if Fist Catcher takes another job, the national media will run plenty of "WTF were they thinking" stories.

I will admit, Coach Miles has a blind spot when it come to QB. He just does. The offense he wants needs a pocket guy and he keep recruiting duals. Doesn't work. He is also a bit unorthodox in game management. But, the man can coach. You started by saying he "sucks". Nick Saban, among others, disagrees with you. You cannot defend the indefensible and saying silly things like "10 out of 10" would prefer liar boy doesn't help.

Only on a UofL board could someone be attacked for saying "you get to keep your coach". Jurich was right - this is a fragile fan base. I'd call it psychotic. Only on a UL board could someone say a national champion coach "sucks" and then be offended for being called on it. Only on a UL board could someone argue that their coach who has never accomplished anything is better than a coach who has won it all.

Back to the character card as expected. That's all you have and quite frankly you have gone from a whiny Louisville hater to a bore that simply can't keep up with the times or the facts.

You keep asking for proof on something that is very subjective and only bringing up the same tired comparisons of 1 coach who stumbled into a National Title in a down year while coaching top 10 recruiting classes year after year to a stud coach who came within an offsides penalty from taking a C-USA team to a National Title in 2006-07.

That doesn't even make mention of BP's 2004 C-USA team that ended up 12-1 and ranked #6 with a 5-11 QB in Stefan Lefors that no other D1 coach would even give a look at. If not for a Kerry Rhodes dropped interception late In the 4th qtr at Miami the Cards would have ended up 13-0 and in the National Title talk.

I'm guessing you also really do not want to discuss this year. Didn't think so.

 

[BooneCo_Card]

That is not entirely correct, Boone. Houston Nutt's last two teams were 10-4 and 8-5. He walked away because Long would not support him against boosters who wanted to dictate personnel and style.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Nutt's 8-5 team came into the season with expectations of much greater things, much like Miles' team last year, only to fall far short. Nutt had also gotten on the wrong side of boosters but more importantly former coach and AD Frank Broyles.

We've both been around the SEC long enough to know the passion and expectations of fan bases and hyperactive boosters. All save UK and Vandy have severe case of Tide envy. Both Miles and Nutt were fine coaches who fell victim to this phenomena. Not the first and most certainly not the last.

 

[CardLaw]

Again, just another response that makes me wonder how much your legal malpractice insurance carrier has shelled out from defrauded clients, as clearly you are either an abject and intellectually bankrupt liar or, simply an obtuse simpleton.

Strike Eleven - Joe Alleva - LSU's AD that just fired Miles wasn't hired until 2008.

Strike Twelve - Petrino was Louisville's coach in 2005 - had Jurich been interested in Miles over Petrino, he could have offered him the job then and there. That he didn't speaks to his choice and again, your stupidity.

The LSU AD in 2005 took Miles, not petrino. At the time Miles was at Oklahoma State. There is no way Jurich could have gotten him away. No one would leave a Big 12 job for C-USA. After 2005, there was no way Jurich could have pried Miles away from LSU. Now, today, since Miles needs a job, he might be willing to listen. But not 2005 or any year since.

 

[CardLaw]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Nutt's 8-5 team came into the season with expectations of much greater things, much like Miles' team last year, only to fall far short. Nutt had also gotten on the wrong side of boosters but more importantly former coach and AD Frank Broyles.

We've both been around the SEC long enough to know the passion and expectations of fan bases and hyperactive boosters. All save UK and Vandy have severe case of Tide envy. Both Miles and Nutt were fine coaches who fell victim to this phenomena. Not the first and most certainly not the last.

You may be right. I honestly don't remember the preseason hype for Arkansas that year. Also, you can add Mark Richt to your list and Steve Spurrier walked away from Florida for that same reason.

 

[CardLaw]

Back to the character card as expected. That's all you have and quite frankly you have gone from a whiny Louisville hater to a bore that simply can't keep up with the times or the facts.

You keep asking for proof on something that is very subjective and only bringing up the same tired comparisons of 1 coach who stumbled into a National Title in a down year while coaching top 10 recruiting classes year after year to a stud coach who came within an offsides penalty from taking a C-USA team to a National Title in 2006-07.

That doesn't even make mention of BP's 2004 C-USA team that ended up 12-1 and ranked #6 with a 5-11 QB in Stefan Lefors that no other D1 coach would even give a look at. If not for a Kerry Rhodes dropped interception late In the 4th qtr at Miami the Cards would have ended up 13-0 and in the National Title talk.

I'm guessing you also really do not want to discuss this year. Didn't think so.

Let me see if I follow your logic: On the one hand we have Coach Miles who won two SEC Championships, lead his team to a third championship game, played in two national championship games winning one. But, he is nowhere near the coach as someone who never won his division in the SEC and almost succeeded one year in getting his team into the consideration for the BCS game, but never actually accomplished it. So failing to achieve success is better than actually having done it. Makes sense.

 

[Louisvillian]

Let me see if I follow your logic: On the one hand we have Coach Miles who won two SEC Championships, lead his team to a third championship game, played in two national championship games winning one. But, he is nowhere near the coach as someone who never won his division in the SEC and almost succeeded one year in getting his team into the consideration for the BCS game, but never actually accomplished it. So failing to achieve success is better than actually having done it. Makes sense.

Once again you are avoiding the point. With equal talent no football man would take goofy Les Miles over Bobby Petrino as head coach. Do you really think that given the top 10 recruiting classes Miles brought in at LSU year after year that BP wouldn't have at least accomplished what Miles did? If you don't then you must be smoking your socks.

Good for you and Les though. You both seem to be riding high at the moment.

Go ahead and get one more inane post in before the mods lock this thread which usually happens in threads that you become active in.

 

[CardLaw]

Once again you are avoiding the point. With equal talent no football man would take goofy Les Miles over Bobby Petrino as head coach. .

In 2005, the AD at LSU did. And given what has transpired since, he would probably do it again. I would.

 

[Louisvillian]

In 2005, the AD at LSU did. And given what has transpired since, he would probably do it again. I would.

Glory Daaaayyyys, sing it Mr Springsteen. They'll pass you by..........

 

[CardLaw]

Glory Daaaayyyys, sing it Mr Springsteen. They'll pass you by..........

Les Miles has had them - SEC West titles 3, SEC Championships 2, national title games 2, national titles 1
petrino has not - SEC West titles 0, SEC Championships 0, national title games 0, national titles 0

Like Parcells said - you are what your record says you are. In those records, I see a winner, and a loser.

But, since the facts don't support your argument, why let that stop you. Today, per you, bobby is the greatest. Next year when he is at Arizona or wherever, you will assert Jeff Brohm, or Joe Blow or Don Ho of whoever the UL coach is ranks as the all time greatest. Facts probably won't support that argument either.

 

[BooneCo_Card]

You may be right. I honestly don't remember the preseason hype for Arkansas that year. Also, you can add Mark Richt to your list and Steve Spurrier walked away from Florida for that same reason.

D. McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis all returning to the backfield in a largely running conference.

Add Phil Fulmer, Tommy Tuberville and likely Pat Dye to the list that were either fired or left one step ahead of the sheriff.

And the beat goes on.......

 

[CardLaw]

D. McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis all returning to the backfield in a largely running conference.

Add Phil Fulmer, Tommy Tuberville and likely Pat Dye to the list that were either fired or left one step ahead of the sheriff.

And the beat goes on.......

That's it! That was the issue! Nutt had McFadden and Jones and the parents of a couple of punk QB/WR's coached in high school by Gus Malzahn went to Broyles bitching because Nutt wasn't throwing the ball and Broyles listened to them. I am pretty sure it was Long that wound up hiring petrino, but it was Broyles that stabbed Nutt in the back.

I remember thinking at the time you've got McFadden and Jones, and someone thinks you should turn the ball over to some POS freshman QB? That punk transferred to USC or some place as did the WR's. None were ever heard from again I believe.

 

[Louisvillian]

Les Miles has had them - SEC West titles 3, SEC Championships 2, national title games 2, national titles 1
petrino has not - SEC West titles 0, SEC Championships 0, national title games 0, national titles 0

Like Parcells said - you are what your record says you are. In those records, I see a winner, and a loser.

But, since the facts don't support your argument, why let that stop you. Today, per you, bobby is the greatest. Next year when he is at Arizona or wherever, you will assert Jeff Brohm, or Joe Blow or Don Ho of whoever the UL coach is ranks as the all time greatest. Facts probably won't support that argument either.

You really are on a roll. Never seen anyone who can't honestly address the question at hand, well yes I have a lot lately but Jeez you are a kumquat.. You can watch Bruce's Glory Days on YouTube.

 

[CardLaw]

You really are on a roll. Never seen anyone who can't honestly address the question at hand, well yes I have a lot lately but Jeez you are a kumquat.. You can watch Bruce's Glory Days on YouTube.

The "question at hand" is who is the better coach. The facts answer the question quite clearly for anyone who can see beyond the inside of their own bowels.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

On a side note - Mods - How is it that this individual is allowed to post the comments regarding Louisville's coach on this board and not be banned??

Rules are not enforced on the free board.

 

[BPGhost]

The LSU AD in 2005 took Miles, not petrino. At the time Miles was at Oklahoma State. There is no way Jurich could have gotten him away. No one would leave a Big 12 job for C-USA. After 2005, there was no way Jurich could have pried Miles away from LSU. Now, today, since Miles needs a job, he might be willing to listen. But not 2005 or any year since.

The LSU AD that I referenced in my post is the current one that fired Miles - not the 2005 version that hired him. Miles' hiring by LSU was widely panned as his record at OKSt. was mediocre. He took over a program left in national championship caliber by saban. I seriously doubt at the time TJ was interested in Les Miles over his existing coach of the time BP however to suggest that Jurich would have been completely unable to hire him at Louisville, flies in the face of his record of getting the coach he wants - regardless of the sport. Who would have thought Jurich would have been able to get Pitino to come to Louisville - yet it happened. Besides, Louisville was in the Big East in 2005.

 

[CardinalStan]

The dissatisfied poster sounds like a U.K. basketball fan who does not claim the football team because he is ashamed. So he claims a great program like Alabama. I am willing to bet you that Lamar Jackson's stats next year will be very close to the stats this year. He will improve his zone read and his passing. Your comment about him made you sound just a little jealous.

 

[Section 12 Jerk]

Les Miles has had them - SEC West titles 3, SEC Championships 2, national title games 2, national titles 1
petrino has not - SEC West titles 0, SEC Championships 0, national title games 0, national titles 0

Like Parcells said - you are what your record says you are. In those records, I see a winner, and a loser.

But, since the facts don't support your argument, why let that stop you. Today, per you, bobby is the greatest. Next year when he is at Arizona or wherever, you will assert Jeff Brohm, or Joe Blow or Don Ho of whoever the UL coach is ranks as the all time greatest. Facts probably won't support that argument either.

I can't wait to see your posts next year claiming you never said Bobby would be gone after this year.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Rules are not enforced on the free board.

Let me get this straight.

You can be an A$$#ole for free, but it if you pay you have to be civil?

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Let me get this straight.

You can be an A$$#ole for free, but it if you pay you have to be civil?

The evidence supports your theory!

 

[CardLaw]

I can't wait to see your posts next year claiming you never said Bobby would be gone after this year.

Uh, I never said petrino would be gone after this year. He'll leave for another job or get fired. Maybe this year, maybe next, maybe the one after. So, here I am - THIS YEAR - NOT saying your boy will bolt in 2016.

 

[CardLaw]

The dissatisfied poster sounds like a U.K. basketball fan who does not claim the football team because he is ashamed. So he claims a great program like Alabama. I am willing to bet you that Lamar Jackson's stats next year will be very close to the stats this year. He will improve his zone read and his passing. Your comment about him made you sound just a little jealous.

I'm not a basketball fan period. Bores me. I grew up in Birmingham - Hoover to be precise. And if I were going to be jealous of other schools having aa good player, I would pretty much have to be jealous of just about everyone. Most schools have at least one guy at some position I would love to see at UA. But I wouldn't trade anyone on UA's two deep for anyone. I think Bama will do okay with the roster it has.

 

[Louisvillian]

Bores me. I grew up in.

Sighhhhhhhhhned,
The Ultimate Bore....