Katina Powell Not Speaking to UofL/NCAA

[Knucklehank1]

On ESPN radio, Katina Powell's attorney said that she will not speak to investigators for UofL or NCAA unless granted criminal immunity. Obviously, the investigators for UofL nor the NCAA have that power, so in essence he is saying that she will not be talking.

At the end of the day, I think if she doesn't talk and if Andre McGee doesn't talk, then I think that is probably a good thing for UofL.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Lessons learned:

1) Don't be a ho
2) Don't be with ho's
3) Dr. Dre was right about them ho's - don't have any love for them.

 

[L1c4tillidie]

She's already trying to get out of the slander lawsuit. Was only a matter of time.

 

[Sec221]

I think UofL has something and once they put it together, game over.

The NCAA will not get in the middle and will not allow themselves to be drawn into this either.

 

[J-Rye_UL]

On ESPN radio, Katina Powell's attorney said that she will not speak to investigators for UofL or NCAA unless granted criminal immunity. Obviously, the investigators for UofL nor the NCAA have that power, so in essence he is saying that she will not be talking.

At the end of the day, I think if she doesn't talk and if Andre McGee doesn't talk, then I think that is probably a good thing for UofL.

It doesn't really matter who she "wants" to talk to. If the FBI comes questioning her child prostitution ring, she won't have a choice.

 

[Knucklehank1]

I think UofL has something and once they put it together, game over.

The NCAA will not get in the middle and will not allow themselves to be drawn into this either.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Please extrapolate...

 

[fredburgcard]

It doesn't really matter who she "wants" to talk to. If the FBI comes questioning her child prostitution ring, she won't have a choice.

Actually she doesn't even have to talk to the FBI. There's this thing called the Fifth Amendment in the Constitution. Even a lawyer who regularly wakes up in garbage cans knows about it.

 

[whhs22]

sounds like a lot of hoping the truth does not come out. I'm with Rick I want to know the truth

 

[Sec221]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Please extrapolate...

It would appear by the request, Wilder is trying to prevent UofL from taking the next step with their legal investigation, not the NCAA investigation. The NCAA doesn't mean squat to them, but it does to UofL.

Wilder is publicly trying to force UofL to make a decision the between the basketball program and the legal side. It has the appearance of desperation to prevent something from happening to his client.

The story appears to have been made up by the inconsistencies in the narratives and what has been written in the book.

Powell couldn't write a book report on her own book.

 

[cardz4life]

Who's financing this hoe? She can't be doing this out of the goodness of her heart.

 

[rentalman]

Even if Powell does not talk to the NCAA they still have the testimony of the recruits involved. So not sure this makes much of a difference in terms of NCAA Sanctions

 

[Sec221]

Even if Powell does not talk to the NCAA they still have the testimony of the recruits involved. So not sure this makes much of a difference in terms of NCAA Sanctions

The NCAA by their own admission has to collaborate the story. The recruits are the recipient and cannot collaborate the story if they did not witness the allegation.

We don't really know what the allegations are at this point.

Think about it this way, I found a hundred dollars on the street. A guy who robbed the store dropped some money on his escape.

I cannot say that the guy running down the street was the one who dropped the money that may or may not have come from the robbery. I didn't even see him drop it.

All I did was pick up some cash on the street.

 

[Cardsmack29]

"Even if Powell does not talk to the NCAA they still have the testimony of the recruits involved. So not sure this makes much of a difference in terms of NCAA Sanctions"

It does in terms of how many time she's changed her story and how there are so many holes in it and why so much of her timelines are not matching up.

The NCAA will want to speak to everyone who is willing to speak with them regarding anything that happened during the time frame given. To this point, way more people have come out to say nothing ever happened or not even close to what the hooker said than those who say something did happen. Only one former recruit was reported by an anonymous person connected to the NCAA as saying the "gist" of it happened. If you think ESPiN has anything of substance to report you're fooling yourself. They only rehashed more of what was already said and gave no new sources that were willing to give their names. ESPiN authenticated that there were texts and a wire transfer that still do not necessarily connect to prostitutes being paid to have sex or even much less dance for former players or recruits at Minardi Hall or anywhere for that matter. Everything reported thus far is still circumstantial.

 

[J-Rye_UL]

Actually she doesn't even have to talk to the FBI. There's this thing called the Fifth Amendment in the Constitution. Even a lawyer who regularly wakes up in garbage cans knows about it.

Since she's already indirectly admitted to child prostitution in a published book, she'll be found guilty unless she (or her lawyer) starts talking. Sure, plead the 5th. Won't do you any good.

 

[rentalman]

"Even if Powell does not talk to the NCAA they still have the testimony of the recruits involved. So not sure this makes much of a difference in terms of NCAA Sanctions"

It does in terms of how many time she's changed her story and how there are so many holes in it and why so much of her timelines are not matching up.

The NCAA will want to speak to everyone who is willing to speak with them regarding anything that happened during the time frame given. To this point, way more people have come out to say nothing ever happened or not even close to what the hooker said than those who say something did happen. Only one former recruit was reported by an anonymous person connected to the NCAA as saying the "gist" of it happened. If you think ESPiN has anything of substance to report you're fooling yourself. They only rehashed more of what was already said and gave no new sources that were willing to give their names. ESPiN authenticated that there were texts and a wire transfer that still do not necessarily connect to prostitutes being paid to have sex or even much less dance for former players or recruits at Minardi Hall or anywhere for that matter. Everything reported thus far is still circumstantial.

You could be right. It will all come down to what the recruits confirmed. If they confirmed they had sex with the woman, we are probably toast. The NCAA does not have the same standards as a court of Law. Whether they can prove it or not, if the recruits had sex with these woman the NCAA is going to assert someone (McGee) on the UL Basketball Staff arranged it.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

sounds like a lot of hoping the truth does not come out. I'm with Rick I want to know the truth

 

[ClockCalamity]

"Even if Powell does not talk to the NCAA they still have the testimony of the recruits involved. So not sure this makes much of a difference in terms of NCAA Sanctions"

It does in terms of how many time she's changed her story and how there are so many holes in it and why so much of her timelines are not matching up.

The NCAA will want to speak to everyone who is willing to speak with them regarding anything that happened during the time frame given. To this point, way more people have come out to say nothing ever happened or not even close to what the hooker said than those who say something did happen. Only one former recruit was reported by an anonymous person connected to the NCAA as saying the "gist" of it happened. If you think ESPiN has anything of substance to report you're fooling yourself. They only rehashed more of what was already said and gave no new sources that were willing to give their names. ESPiN authenticated that there were texts and a wire transfer that still do not necessarily connect to prostitutes being paid to have sex or even much less dance for former players or recruits at Minardi Hall or anywhere for that matter. Everything reported thus far is still circumstantial.

And according to Jeff Goodman, the NCAA is on the UofL campus today doing just this...

 

[beasleythecard]

Im thankful that the woe is me cardinal has disappeared. This whore couldnt help my daughter with 5th grade homework less write a book. Its a lot of lies thrown into the mix.
Andre was nailing her and when he stopped giving her money and access she went ape

 

[cardsp]

Since she's already indirectly admitted to child prostitution in a published book, she'll be found guilty unless she (or her lawyer) starts talking. Sure, plead the 5th. Won't do you any good.

Also, if she was paid the money she claims i'm sure she reported it to IRS on her taxes...

 

[Beach Bird]

Since she's already indirectly admitted to child prostitution in a published book, she'll be found guilty unless she (or her lawyer) starts talking. Sure, plead the 5th. Won't do you any good.

The police can not charge someone with prostitution unless they catch them in the act. Usually prostitutes and johns are busted with sting operations. It's not like they have to walk the streets anymore, with today's technology it's a lot easier to conduct their business without getting busted.

Seriously, when was the last time a police force hauled in all the prostitutes, bookies or raided (or tried to put out of business) massage parlors.

Trying to pin it on her is a waste of time, she only did what was requested of her and paid for. Who she is, what she works at for a living, how educated or not she is, on and on, will not change things.

How much of the allegations can be proven and how serious of a violation they are is all that matters. We will not know the nformation that is being collected by the different investigations going on until they are completed.

It's really ridiculous reading so many various scenarios by people who have no knowledge of what information has been and will be collected by the agencies conducting investigations. Idle speculation.

 

[zipp]

Also, if she was paid the money she claims i'm sure she reported it to IRS on her taxes...

This.

The problem for her now is the more activity she says took place and the more money she earned, the more taxes she owes. And her clown attorney can't get her much/any leniency from the IRS--they don't give a damn about alleged NCAA recruiting violations.

The gap-toothed sista' is cooked no matter which direction she wants to go, which lies she wants to tell, or which testimony she wants to recant...

 

[thecycle21]

Bottom line she was played. The publishing company should have known all the various legal issues the book created for her and should have at least informed her to seek representation BEFORE writing the book. If she declined then that is on her.

The only question is will the various enforcement agencies pursue legal action. There is no way immunity will be given. Enforcement can just wait it out and if she decides to really discuss her book they just sit back a she what happens. If she does talk she is going to have to answer a lot of questions and the more she talks the more here story changes. The only person that has admitted to crimes is Powell. McGee isn't going to talk and there isn't enough evidence, at this time, to prosecute him.

I tend to agree IRS and state housing are her real problems. She has lied to both the state and federal government in order to avoid taxes and receive benefits. With this much coverage both agencies may take advantage of the situation to make a point.

 

[-BBH-]

If the NCAA wants to pursue this, there is plenty of mounting evidence for them to do so. They're not a court of law. They have proven in the past that they can do what they wish. We've seen programs (like Duke for example) that seem to walk through the rain drops, while others get the book thrown at them quick and deadly. Sorry, but this isn't over by a long shot.

 

[Dore95]

The NCAA by their own admission has to collaborate the story. The recruits are the recipient and cannot collaborate the story if they did not witness the allegation.

We don't really know what the allegations are at this point.

Think about it this way, I found a hundred dollars on the street. A guy who robbed the store dropped some money on his escape.

I cannot say that the guy running down the street was the one who dropped the money that may or may not have come from the robbery. I didn't even see him drop it.

All I did was pick up some cash on the street.

First off, the word you are searching for is "corroborated", not "collaborated". I've seen you mis-use "collaborated" numerous times over the last several weeks.

Also, I don't understand the idea that this has to be "corroborated" by U of L. For example, if U of L refused to admit any wrongdoing, no matter what the evidence said, would that mean that U of L would get off scot free? Obviously no. So, it does matter what the recruits say. We have no idea what they did or will say. But, if Lyle told the NCAA investigator that he had sex with one of the girls and that he saw McGee arrange (and even pay for) the "side deal", then we are obviously in trouble no matter whether U of L admits this or not.

 

[J-Rye_UL]

The police can not charge someone with prostitution unless they catch them in the act. Usually prostitutes and johns are busted with sting operations. It's not like they have to walk the streets anymore, with today's technology it's a lot easier to conduct their business without getting busted.

Seriously, when was the last time a police force hauled in all the prostitutes, bookies or raided (or tried to put out of business) massage parlors.

Trying to pin it on her is a waste of time, she only did what was requested of her and paid for. Who she is, what she works at for a living, how educated or not she is, on and on, will not change things.

How much of the allegations can be proven and how serious of a violation they are is all that matters. We will not know the nformation that is being collected by the different investigations going on until they are completed.

It's really ridiculous reading so many various scenarios by people who have no knowledge of what information has been and will be collected by the agencies conducting investigations. Idle speculation.

There's no investigation or sting operation required by the authorities - that's already been admitted and will be determined as part of the NCAA's ruling. It would seem impossible for the University of Louisville to be found guilty of prostituting to minors, while at the same time letting Katina Powell run free as if it never happened. IF it happened, drop the hammer on all parties. This "immunity" she's requesting sounds ridiculous to me.

 

[Petjurino]

On ESPN radio, Katina Powell's attorney said that she will not speak to investigators for UofL or NCAA unless granted criminal immunity. Obviously, the investigators for UofL nor the NCAA have that power, so in essence he is saying that she will not be talking.

At the end of the day, I think if she doesn't talk and if Andre McGee doesn't talk, then I think that is probably a good thing for UofL.

Yep, it sounds like Powell is not going to talk to the NCAA and with McGee no longer being employeed by and NCAA institution, they don't have any jurisdiction over him and there is no need for him to talk. They can't do anything to him. I think this news is big fellas. It looks like what a lot of us had thought for some time is coming to fruition. Nothing will come of this. This is a big break in the case guys.

 

[rojas]

I hope everyone with anything to do with the case talks to the NCAA openly and truthfully. In the long run "the truth shall set you free."

 

[BPGhost]

I hope everyone with anything to do with the case talks to the NCAA openly and truthfully. In the long run "the truth shall set you free."

Except for in those cases where the truth will incarcerate you...

 

[Louisvillian]

I hope everyone with anything to do with the case talks to the NCAA openly and truthfully. In the long run "the truth shall set you free."

Thanks Aunt Esther.

 

[Da_Bull]

Seriously, when was the last time a police force hauled in all the prostitutes, bookies or raided (or tried to put out of business) massage parlors.

http://www.whas11.com/story/news/cr...titution-illegal-business-practices/74467476/

 

[RationalCard]

Im thankful that the woe is me cardinal has disappeared. This whore couldnt help my daughter with 5th grade homework less write a book. Its a lot of lies thrown into the mix.
Andre was nailing her and when he stopped giving her money and access she went ape

This, I have seen a lot of people "wanting" this to be more than it is. Like it is some ah ha moment. In any other situation, would you believe a crack head who says she sold her children into prostitution? No.

I get there were parties, and a lot of girls want to sleep with basketball players. Doesnt mean they were paid. Crazy whore is crazy whore.

 

[cardsfan53]

She got what she wanted "MONEY"

She serouisly probably never thought it through that what she is saying is a crime when the book was beeing wrote. Much like when the lady tried to extort Pitino for money, once ppl get money on the mind they don't think about anything else.

 

[cuzimacardfan]

The police can not charge someone with prostitution unless they catch them in the act. Usually prostitutes and johns are busted with sting operations. It's not like they have to walk the streets anymore, with today's technology it's a lot easier to conduct their business without getting busted.

Seriously, when was the last time a police force hauled in all the prostitutes, bookies or raided (or tried to put out of business) massage parlors.

Trying to pin it on her is a waste of time, she only did what was requested of her and paid for. Who she is, what she works at for a living, how educated or not she is, on and on, will not change things.

How much of the allegations can be proven and how serious of a violation they are is all that matters. We will not know the nformation that is being collected by the different investigations going on until they are completed.

It's really ridiculous reading so many various scenarios by people who have no knowledge of what information has been and will be collected by the agencies conducting investigations. Idle speculation.

the child prostitution is the big deal. It's a felony with no statute of limitations in KY. That's way more that just your simple hoe walking the street corner.

 

[RationalCard]

the child prostitution is the big deal. It's a felony with no statute of limitations in KY. That's way more that just your simple hoe walking the street corner.

This assumes they were paid for sex. Thats the crux of the argument. Those women are hustlers. They are hustling right now.

 

[jarheadky]

The police can not charge someone with prostitution unless they catch them in the act. Usually prostitutes and johns are busted with sting operations. It's not like they have to walk the streets anymore, with today's technology it's a lot easier to conduct their business without getting busted.

Seriously, when was the last time a police force hauled in all the prostitutes, bookies or raided (or tried to put out of business) massage parlors.

Trying to pin it on her is a waste of time, she only did what was requested of her and paid for. Who she is, what she works at for a living, how educated or not she is, on and on, will not change things.

How much of the allegations can be proven and how serious of a violation they are is all that matters. We will not know the nformation that is being collected by the different investigations going on until they are completed.

It's really ridiculous reading so many various scenarios by people who have no knowledge of what information has been and will be collected by the agencies conducting investigations. Idle speculation.

While I agree with most of your post that no one knows exactly what can and can't be proven, they actually don't have to be caught in the act of anything. There are many laws involving conspiracy that could be used in this case especially federal statutes in order to charge Powell and whether it be the FBI or some other Federal agency that has decided to build a case don't kid yourself the 5th amendment is virtually useless they will have enough evidence on her or Mcgee that one or the other is gonna talk to save their skin.

 

[cardfaninmemphis]

While I agree with most of your post that no one knows exactly what can and can't be proven, they actually don't have to be caught in the act of anything. There are many laws involving conspiracy that could be used in this case especially federal statutes in order to charge Powell and whether it be the FBI or some other Federal agency that has decided to build a case don't kid yourself the 5th amendment is virtually useless they will have enough evidence on her or Mcgee that one or the other is gonna talk to save their skin.

In a court of law, you would be correct. Speaking with the NCAA is a different matter. Both can refuse to speak to the NCAA if they so choose. Both can lie to the NCAA if they so choose; the NCAA cannot charge them with perjury.

 

[catmasterson]

In a court of law, you would be correct. Speaking with the NCAA is a different matter. Both can refuse to speak to the NCAA if they so choose. Both can lie to the NCAA if they so choose; the NCAA cannot charge them with perjury.

There is only one reason that McGee wouldn't want to talk. I believe he will talk as soon as he is given the ok to do so. Because it is the NCAA if you refuse to talk to them you are admitting guilt.

 

[cardfaninmemphis]

There is only one reason that McGee wouldn't want to talk. I believe he will talk as soon as he is given the ok to do so. Because it is the NCAA if you refuse to talk to them you are admitting guilt.

The only reason he would need to talk with the NCAA is if he wants to stay associated with the NCAA. If he decides being part of the NCAA isn't worth it, then he won't talk. And you are wrong on that third sentence. By that same reasoning, if Katina Powell refuses to speak, then she is admitting to lying, and the NCAA would be in a catch 22.
If he doesn't speak, then it is only in the eyes of the public that he is admitting guilt.

 

[jarheadky]

In a court of law, you would be correct. Speaking with the NCAA is a different matter. Both can refuse to speak to the NCAA if they so choose. Both can lie to the NCAA if they so choose; the NCAA cannot charge them with perjury.

My whole point was in reference to the criminal prosecution side of this, although I believe criminal charges will only be pursued if political pressure is applied, any charges would just be to hard to prove, even with the wire transfers. Also while I understand that the NCAA and the court system are two different entities some of the U of L fans need to remember the Miami and Penn St. investigations and how criminal cases were used to garner evidence against them during the NCAA investigation, right now Powell not being indicted no matter how immoral it may seem is probably the best thing that could happen for U of L.

 

[cardfaninmemphis]

My whole point was in reference to the criminal prosecution side of this, although I believe criminal charges will only be pursued if political pressure is applied, any charges would just be to hard to prove, even with the wire transfers. Also while I understand that the NCAA and the court system are two different entities some of the U of L fans need to remember the Miami and Penn St. investigations and how criminal cases were used to garner evidence against them during the NCAA investigation, right now Powell not being indicted no matter how immoral it may seem is probably the best thing that could happen for U of L.

Point taken.