If Healthy-who is the QB ?

[KerryRhodes]

I know Coach Satterfield said he didnt cared who played.

I think this years team can go with 2.
Id like it to be Cunningham and Conley.

What say you ?
Pass or Malik or Evan ?

 

[CardinalEra]

Cunningham is not a good fit for this offense. We need to keep feeding our running backs. Puma is the best option. He'll get better. Conley would be my second choice.

I honestly believe we would have scored 2 or 3 more touchdowns with Puma in the game today. Our running game would have been a lot more effective. I expected Hall and Hawkins to go for 150 yards a piece today.

 

[kentuckyshame]

I’d have to agree with Cardinalera here Kerry. Malik plays too one dimensional. I’d say Pass for now but I’d love to see Conley get more time.

 

[Knucklehank1]

I think Pass has the greater upside.

 

[BPGhost]

Cunningham is not a good fit for this offense. We need to keep feeding our running backs. Puma is the best option. He'll get better. Conley would be my second choice.

I honestly believe we would have scored 2 or 3 more touchdowns with Puma in the game today. Our running game would have been a lot more effective. I expected Hall and Hawkins to go for 150 yards a piece today.

So in a offense that features a lot of RPOs, you don’t think a speedy mobile QB would be a good fit? I’m not disagreeing with you but, why specifically do you think Puma would have done to generate 2 or 3 more TDs?

 

[BPGhost]

I think Pass has the greater upside.

On paper - no doubt. Trouble is - Puma’s potential hasn’t translated to the field very often.

 

[CardinalEra]

So in a offense that features a lot of RPOs, you don’t think a speedy mobile QB would be a good fit? I’m not disagreeing with you but, why specifically do you think Puma would have done to generate 2 or 3 more TDs?

An offense that has RPOs needs a quarterback who makes the right reads.

Malik does not make the right reads.

He keeps. Because he wants to run. Puma has been making the right RPO reads.

I think Puma would have handed the ball off more and allowed our running backs to pound the WKU defensive line into submission, develop a rhythm, and grind out longer drives keeping our defense off the field on what was a HOT AF day in Nashville. I think our D got tired. I also think Puma would have had as good a shot to hit the longer throws as Conley and Malik. I felt like he improved on his accuracy last game.

And while you might not think Conley is the right guy for an RPO system, keep in mind he was recruited to App State and they thought enough of him to bring him here.

 

[kentuckyshame]

On paper - no doubt. Trouble is - Puma’s potential hasn’t translated to the field very often.

I don’t think Puma is the qb of the future by any means, with that said I don’t think Malik is either, but I’d choose Pass over Malik right now. The poise and touch Conley showed tonight has impressed me more than what Pass and Malik have done combined.

 

[CardinalEra]

So what if only Malik and Conley are healthy?

Is Conley the starter? Any chance at all?

Does Malik start and Conley get a series early in the game?

 

[Knucklehank1]

On paper - no doubt. Trouble is - Puma’s potential hasn’t translated to the field very often.

I don’t think Malik has the arm strength to make the throws needed to be a good to great offense.

 

[kentuckyshame]

So what if only Malik and Conley are healthy?

Is Conley the starter? Any chance at all?

Does Malik start and Conley get a series early in the game?

Someone said Conley was being recruited to App St, if that’s true then Coach Satt is pretty fond of him to bring him here. Freshman or not, if Conley proves to be best option I think Coach will play him

 

[sound slave]

The QB spot is a real conundrum. Pass is better suited for the type of offense than Cunningham, but it's yet to be seen if Conley is a better passer than Pass.

We need a FrankenQB; take parts from all ours guys and build them into the starter.

 

[BPGhost]

An offense that has RPOs needs a quarterback who makes the right reads.

Malik does not make the right reads.

He keeps.

I also think Puma would have had as good a shot to hit the longer throws as Conley and Malik. I felt like he improved on his accuracy last game.

And while you might not think Conley is the right guy for an RPO system, keep in mind he was recruited to App State and they thought enough of him to bring him here.

I’m not a Pass hater by any stretch. Malik’s reads are different than Puma’s, because his running ability is different than Puma’s. Puma doesn’t have the same speed or ability to get through the holes Malik does.

Puma has not shown the ability to be consistent on downfield throws. And as for Conley - I made literally the exact same comment about CSS seeing something in him to bring him with him two weeks ago.

 

[CardinalEra]

I’m not a Pass hater by any stretch. Malik’s reads are different than Puma’s, because his running ability is different than Puma’s. Puma doesn’t have the same speed or ability to get through the holes Malik does.

Puma has not shown the ability to be consistent on downfield throws. And as for Conley - I made literally the exact same comment about CSS seeing something in him to bring him with him two weeks ago.

I understand what you're saying, but I think Hawkins and Hall are *better* runners than Malik.

Malik is a good runner out of the QB position. He would be a poor running back. I think pound for pound we get more value out of a handoff over the course of one or more games than we do with him keeping it if that makes sense.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

As long as they hand it off to Hawkins at least 20 times a game I really don't give a shit.

I think they all have a skill set that the Cards could win games with, if things break their way.

In a way, it's been a bit of a blessing all 3 got an opportunity to contribute so far with positive plays.

 

[CardinalEra]

Well today Hawkins only got 19.. In this offense Hawkins and Hall both should be getting 15 - 20 carries per game. Tonight Cunningham carried the ball more than Hall.

Average YPC tonight:
Hawkins - 4.9
Hall 4.6
Cunningham - 2.9


Each Malik carry is robbing from a passing play or from a running back.

Evan came in and threw for 86 yards on 2 passes for an average of 28.7. Malik completed 8 passes for an average of 9.2

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Well today Hawkins only got 19.. In this offense Hawkins and Hall both should be getting 15 - 20 carries per game. Tonight Cunningham carried the ball more than Hall.

Average YPC tonight:
Hawkins - 4.9
Hall 4.6
Cunningham - 2.9


Each Malik carry is robbing from a passing play or from a running back.

Evan came in and threw for 86 yards on 2 passes for an average of 28.7. Malik completed 8 passes for an average of 9.2

Thanks for the info. I like both RBs in the stable, for sure.

This staff is using them, I like it.

 

[BPGhost]

Well today Hawkins only got 19.. In this offense Hawkins and Hall both should be getting 15 - 20 carries per game. Tonight Cunningham carried the ball more than Hall.

Average YPC tonight:
Hawkins - 4.9
Hall 4.6
Cunningham - 2.9


Each Malik carry is robbing from a passing play or from a running back.

Evan came in and threw for 86 yards on 2 passes for an average of 28.7. Malik completed 8 passes for an average of 9.2

In the interest of accuracy, Malik came into this game with a higher career rushing yards per carry (6.26), more yards and touchdowns than either of the two running backs.

 

[CardinalEra]

Yeah, running last year's offense, when we literally did not have a rushing offense and our offensive line was abysmal. He got that yardage off scrambling. He doesn't fit this scheme very well at QB for what they are trying to do. That's what I'm saying, and our offensive line has been coached on run blocking. You can run behind them now if you're a RB.

 

[BPGhost]

Yeah, running last year's offense, when we literally did not have a rushing offense and our offensive line was abysmal. He got that yardage off scrambling. He doesn't fit this scheme very well at QB for what they are trying to do. That's what I'm saying, and our offensive line has been coached on run blocking. You can run behind them now if you're a RB.

So he “scrambled” for 5 TDs last year in a part time gig? I guess LJ scrambled for a bunch of his scores too. Anyway - we’re on the same side - we want the best guy at the controls. I’m good with whoever CSS feels that is.

 

[Mike'sMarbles]

I like the backups but I think we should play Pass if he's healthy.

I won't be surprised if Chubba is our starter in Game 1 next year.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

What is the injury status on Pass?

 

[CardVille]

Pass then Malik then Conley

I dont see one QB superior to the other so go with experience.

 

[CardCasey]

I think Malik will benefit greatly from watching film from this game. I think he was a little to run ready. Also timing is a big key in Coach Satt’s (mis-direction) offense. Puma is much better at this, but more practiced. For the option and pitch plays to work you have to have proper spacing. We didn’t have that yesterday. Malik often over ran the play which didn’t leave space for him, the back or receiver. So who knows next game? I know the time that Conley Got was invaluable.

 

[ShortCreek]

I think Malik will benefit greatly from watching film from this game. I think he was a little to run ready. Also timing is a big key in Coach Satt’s (mis-direction) offense. Puma is much better at this, but more practiced. For the option and pitch plays to work you have to have proper spacing. We didn’t have that yesterday. Malik often over ran the play which didn’t leave space for him, the back or receiver. So who knows next game? I know the time that Conley Got was invaluable.

Malik reminded me of a very green Lamar - glance downfield and tuck & run.

 

[PRPclass76]

Puma then by end of year, Conley. I{d still like to see Conley get his 4 games in then redshirt. Next year will have us all salivating with 5 capable QB

 

[beantowncard]

I love how hard these backs run. No dancing, they plant a foot and go- low and hard. This OL must love blocking for these guys.

 

[PHCARD]

FSU needs to plan on all three of our QBs.

 

[beantowncard]

I know Coach Satterfield said he didnt cared who played.

I think this years team can go with 2.
Id like it to be Cunningham and Conley.

What say you ?
Pass or Malik or Evan ?

Puma

 

[PushupMan]

Puma has the stronger arm, but Malik has better mechanics and as a result completes a higher percentage of his passes. Right now, I think Malik moves us the most consistently.

 

[KozmasAgain]

I would go with Pass then Malik then Conley. I did think Conley looked good for the situation he was in and wonder what he would look like if he got more playing time. This is a weird year it seems like everyone is losing their starting quarterback.

 

[PushupMan]

One interesting thing to consider about Conley is that he has just as much experience in this offensive system as either Malik or Jawon. He just has less actual game experience. Once he gets more of that, this QB battle is definitely a three man race.