LAMAR and NFL Scouts

[longtimefanSS71]

There are approx. 30% undrafted players in the NFL. That % has been fairly stable over the last few years. These scouts (many if not most) said Lamar wasn’t QB material. I think I or anyone who really follows football could be a scout and do just as good a job as these guys.




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[Rollem Cards]

There are approx. 30% undrafted players in the NFL. That % has been fairly stable over the last few years. These scouts (many if not most) said Lamar wasn’t QB material. I think I or anyone who really follows football could be a scout and do just as good a job as these guys.




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I remembered this topic as we’re looking at all the players from “small” schools being snatched up from the portal.

These college recruiters/scouts miss a lot too. For years every game there will be a “former walk on” starring for some P4 schools.

Now with the open transfers we’re finding out that the “big” schools have missed a LOT of talent over the years.

Now, until somehow they get a leash on the portal, these FCS and G5 schools are simply “farm teams” for the P4.

It will destroy fan bases for many schools.

 

[Louis III]

I totally agree. Only thing I will point out is I think its a combination of misses and dudes just being late bloomers and needing a little more time to fill out and grow their skills.

Hell I was 5'9 135 the day I graduated HS, went to EKU for a year and when I came back I was 6'1 175, by the time I was 21, I was a little over 6'1, 205.

 

[CardHack]

I will give the NFL scouts the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Lamar because what you have with Lamar is someone who isn't in the mold of not only any previous QB, he's unlike any previous football player in the NFL. LIke any African American QB he gets typecast into the Randall Cunningham and Michael Vick category and that's what probably scared off most franchises--neither of them ever played in a Super Bowl. The temptation for any GM would be is he more Michael Vick, or is he more Vince Young because when Lamar first came into the League his passing and throwing motion were sort of erratic. It was unfair to Lamar, especially when you consider the QB class he came in with with guys like Josh Allen and the ill fated Rosen. We knew there was something special about him but even I had doubts he could become the thrower he has become; there is an almost finished product sense with passers at the NFL level. I mean as great as Josh Allen and Joe Burrow are, do they really look significantly better in caliber of throw than they did their Rookie Years?

What continues to amaze me with Lamar is he is the most visibly improved passer from when he came out of college to where he is six years into the League I have ever seen, and he looks like he improves exponentially from one year to the next. His throws in tight windows downfield look so effortless that they are taken for granted. He has to get that postseason albatross off his neck which is unfair to the extent the AFC has such a depth of historically great QBs, not the least of which is an all-time great in Mahomes on a Dynastic franchise.

 

[Thecycle27]

I think QB one of the hardest positions to evaluate. You see it at every level. People get fooled all the time. Look around the league most of the stud NFL QB’s weren’t 5 stars. Go down the list of Hall of Fame QB’s most didn’t go to the football factories. They were lower ranked kids that developed over time.

Scouts fall in love with all the tools but fail to accurately measure the head stuff. They have all the tools they play in SEC they are great. Nope they just had people around them that didn’t force them beyond their 1st read or gave them all day to progress with their reads.

Is there anyone that has put more QB’s in the NFL than Brohm? I bet he is top 5. If true why has he never landed a 5 Star? If you think about it all his guys were lowly rated. Kids and their handlers aren’t very smart on where they go. They also aren’t patient enough to develop under a good coach. There is a 5 star transferring from Ohio State. Louisville won’t even get a look. He will go to another brand school that hasn’t develop any QB.

 

[beantowncard]

There are approx. 30% undrafted players in the NFL. That % has been fairly stable over the last few years. These scouts (many if not most) said Lamar wasn’t QB material. I think I or anyone who really follows football could be a scout and do just as good a job as these guys.




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Most people with dart board could do as good as these guys.

 

[glassmanJ]

you're all looking at this from the incorrect viewpoint, it's not the scouting that's the necessarily the issue, it's the teams and coaching staff of where they end up going to. There have been many a qb bust in the pros for the team who drafted them but they turn out to be decent with another team. or you ended up in detroit and your qb got sacked 70x a year and got gun shy. it's not that the qb was necessarily a bust, it was they were not in a system that took advantage of their skills. Lamar is in a system that took advantage of his skills. if he ended up in cleveland he'd be on the IR constantly. sometimes maybe the scouts evaluated the player correctly, the team just failed to utilize in the best way. if you want to scout someone, simply go talk to the locker room manager and see how that player behaves inside the locker room. tape shows everything else and you can teach 80% of the position, the other 10% if desire to win and 10% brain reaction time which cannot be taught or trained. it's just some people have quicker synapses. so, is his ego in check, is he teachable, does he want to win, and does his brain process quickly. and then all can be destroyed by bad coaching.