I stand with Bobby

[LeFors4Ever]

We are in a rebuilding year with a Heisman trophy winning talent. Bobby 2.0 may not look the same, but Bobby 1.0 had the 2 best hometown recruits ever come through the program while playing a Conference USA schedule

This year hurts more because of how close we were last year and then the fall back to Earth ever since that night in Houston where Herman found the way to beat us.

We lost a lot of good skill players and even some offensive lineman from an already porous unit to begin with last year. We also lost some high level defensive players as well.

We are not a program that can lose a lot and just replenish with top level guys year in and out. We aren't Clemson and FSU where even our down years we compete for titles. Geography is gonna be our biggest issue in that area on top of having another P5 school in our same state...with our SMALL talent pool in the bluegrass. LPT has had the same problem as well (along with incompetance in coaching selections/contracts).

We now are playing big boy P5 football. Every team we play no matter the record is going to have legitimate talent and be a threat (Like BC or Virginia). We aren't a big dog in a little yard. We have to build a program with depth for a 12 game grind, no more little games we can take breaks.

But guess what, this is what I want and think Bobby is the guy to do it. Yes we do need to demand more and not settle, but be realistic about where we are as a program.

We aren't gonna compete from titles year in and out over night.

Bobby had us a field goal away from a national title..we ended up winning an Orange Bowl. He showed that we could follow through on Howard's promise. Bobby coached our team that was in the playoff race last year. Bobby signed Lamar and designed the offensive scheme that won him the Heisman trophy.

Howard got it started, but we are on the national stage because of him now. The big games in 2006 and last year, the Orange Bowl, and the Heisman trophy win have put our program on the national stage. Lets not forget Bobby was competing with LSU, Bama, Auburn when the $EC was actually the dominant conference and he had Arkansas a top team consistently, even ended his run in a BCS Bowl.

Bobby is a proven winner here and in the power 5 overall. Is it fair to be upset with this team...yes and we should always get mad when things are bad. But calling for Bobby's head is unfair. Bobby is a great coach and it will be hard to get another like him, there is a reason the national guys still are putting him in the rumors for the big jobs. Give up now and you will be sorry, just don't jump back on the train when we are back with Fitz and Pass leading the way when these young guys learn the offense and gain some experience.

GO CARDS!

 

[Louisvillian]

We are in a rebuilding year with a Heisman trophy winning talent. Bobby 2.0 may not look the same, but Bobby 1.0 had the 2 best hometown recruits ever come through the program while playing a Conference USA schedule

This year hurts more because of how close we were last year and then the fall back to Earth ever since that night in Houston where Herman found the way to beat us.

We lost a lot of good skill players and even some offensive lineman from an already porous unit to begin with last year. We also lost some high level defensive players as well.

We are not a program that can lose a lot and just replenish with top level guys year in and out. We aren't Clemson and FSU where even our down years we compete for titles. Geography is gonna be our biggest issue in that area on top of having another P5 school in our same state...with our SMALL talent pool in the bluegrass. LPT has had the same problem as well (along with incompetance in coaching selections/contracts).

We now are playing big boy P5 football. Every team we play no matter the record is going to have legitimate talent and be a threat (Like BC or Virginia). We aren't a big dog in a little yard. We have to build a program with depth for a 12 game grind, no more little games we can take breaks.

But guess what, this is what I want and think Bobby is the guy to do it. Yes we do need to demand more and not settle, but be realistic about where we are as a program.

We aren't gonna compete from titles year in and out over night.

Bobby had us a field goal away from a national title..we ended up winning an Orange Bowl. He showed that we could follow through on Howard's promise. Bobby coached our team that was in the playoff race last year. Bobby signed Lamar and designed the offensive scheme that won him the Heisman trophy.

Howard got it started, but we are on the national stage because of him now. The big games in 2006 and last year, the Orange Bowl, and the Heisman trophy win have put our program on the national stage. Lets not forget Bobby was competing with LSU, Bama, Auburn when the $EC was actually the dominant conference and he had Arkansas a top team consistently, even ended his run in a BCS Bowl.

Bobby is a proven winner here and in the power 5 overall. Is it fair to be upset with this team...yes and we should always get mad when things are bad. But calling for Bobby's head is unfair. Bobby is a great coach and it will be hard to get another like him, there is a reason the national guys still are putting him in the rumors for the big jobs. Give up now and you will be sorry, just don't jump back on the train when we are back with Fitz and Pass leading the way when these young guys learn the offense and gain some experience.

GO CARDS!

Most incredible post ever.

Yikes

 

[KerryRhodes]

Guess which one is the OP

 

[CardsFirst]

We are in a rebuilding year with a Heisman trophy winning talent. Bobby 2.0 may not look the same, but Bobby 1.0 had the 2 best hometown recruits ever come through the program while playing a Conference USA schedule

This year hurts more because of how close we were last year and then the fall back to Earth ever since that night in Houston where Herman found the way to beat us.

We lost a lot of good skill players and even some offensive lineman from an already porous unit to begin with last year. We also lost some high level defensive players as well.

We are not a program that can lose a lot and just replenish with top level guys year in and out. We aren't Clemson and FSU where even our down years we compete for titles. Geography is gonna be our biggest issue in that area on top of having another P5 school in our same state...with our SMALL talent pool in the bluegrass. LPT has had the same problem as well (along with incompetance in coaching selections/contracts).

We now are playing big boy P5 football. Every team we play no matter the record is going to have legitimate talent and be a threat (Like BC or Virginia). We aren't a big dog in a little yard. We have to build a program with depth for a 12 game grind, no more little games we can take breaks.

But guess what, this is what I want and think Bobby is the guy to do it. Yes we do need to demand more and not settle, but be realistic about where we are as a program.

We aren't gonna compete from titles year in and out over night.

Bobby had us a field goal away from a national title..we ended up winning an Orange Bowl. He showed that we could follow through on Howard's promise. Bobby coached our team that was in the playoff race last year. Bobby signed Lamar and designed the offensive scheme that won him the Heisman trophy.

Howard got it started, but we are on the national stage because of him now. The big games in 2006 and last year, the Orange Bowl, and the Heisman trophy win have put our program on the national stage. Lets not forget Bobby was competing with LSU, Bama, Auburn when the $EC was actually the dominant conference and he had Arkansas a top team consistently, even ended his run in a BCS Bowl.

Bobby is a proven winner here and in the power 5 overall. Is it fair to be upset with this team...yes and we should always get mad when things are bad. But calling for Bobby's head is unfair. Bobby is a great coach and it will be hard to get another like him, there is a reason the national guys still are putting him in the rumors for the big jobs. Give up now and you will be sorry, just don't jump back on the train when we are back with Fitz and Pass leading the way when these young guys learn the offense and gain some experience.

GO CARDS!

Your points are valid and I agree that we are in a rebuilding year. And the O line is a fine example since we’re playing two freshman, so I expect some glitches on the offense. And I’ll give you we lost some key players on D, but the issues we’re experiencing most on D and let’s be honest it’s what’s killing this team, is the lack of fundamentals. Poor tackling, out of position, confusion on the D. Heck we had 10 days to prepare for BC and that’s what we looked like. That was BC!

My expectations are 8-4 or 7-5 is a bad year. Loses to Clemson and FSU and add 2. That’s not asking to much. We will be lucky to get to 5-7 or 6-6. I’m not sure how we get one more win this season much less 2, that is unexceptionable period.

Bobby hired a DC that is clearly over his head. Comments like talents not important in college FB tells me all I need to know. In the ACC you have to take D serious you’ll very rarely out score the other team if you can’t at least stop them once in a while.

I’m fine with the progression on the O side, especially with Sommers coaching. I have zero hope that the D will improve because of Sirmon.

Do I think Bobby should be fired....not really sure at this point. I think will see a new look on offense next year more of what we would consider Bobby ball. I think Pass is Bobby’s style QB. But unless the D gets straightened out we’re in for more of the same. And at that point open the search for a new head coach.

 

[LouisvilleKid79]

We are in a rebuilding year with a Heisman trophy winning talent. Bobby 2.0 may not look the same, but Bobby 1.0 had the 2 best hometown recruits ever come through the program while playing a Conference USA schedule

This year hurts more because of how close we were last year and then the fall back to Earth ever since that night in Houston where Herman found the way to beat us.

We lost a lot of good skill players and even some offensive lineman from an already porous unit to begin with last year. We also lost some high level defensive players as well.

We are not a program that can lose a lot and just replenish with top level guys year in and out. We aren't Clemson and FSU where even our down years we compete for titles. Geography is gonna be our biggest issue in that area on top of having another P5 school in our same state...with our SMALL talent pool in the bluegrass. LPT has had the same problem as well (along with incompetance in coaching selections/contracts).

We now are playing big boy P5 football. Every team we play no matter the record is going to have legitimate talent and be a threat (Like BC or Virginia). We aren't a big dog in a little yard. We have to build a program with depth for a 12 game grind, no more little games we can take breaks.

But guess what, this is what I want and think Bobby is the guy to do it. Yes we do need to demand more and not settle, but be realistic about where we are as a program.

We aren't gonna compete from titles year in and out over night.

Bobby had us a field goal away from a national title..we ended up winning an Orange Bowl. He showed that we could follow through on Howard's promise. Bobby coached our team that was in the playoff race last year. Bobby signed Lamar and designed the offensive scheme that won him the Heisman trophy.

Howard got it started, but we are on the national stage because of him now. The big games in 2006 and last year, the Orange Bowl, and the Heisman trophy win have put our program on the national stage. Lets not forget Bobby was competing with LSU, Bama, Auburn when the $EC was actually the dominant conference and he had Arkansas a top team consistently, even ended his run in a BCS Bowl.

Bobby is a proven winner here and in the power 5 overall. Is it fair to be upset with this team...yes and we should always get mad when things are bad. But calling for Bobby's head is unfair. Bobby is a great coach and it will be hard to get another like him, there is a reason the national guys still are putting him in the rumors for the big jobs. Give up now and you will be sorry, just don't jump back on the train when we are back with Fitz and Pass leading the way when these young guys learn the offense and gain some experience.

GO CARDS!

You probably have a good point in there somewhere, but it was difficult to sift through to find out.

 

[GOCARDS6]

even in a rebuilding year as you call it, giving up 45 pts to Boston College is a disaster, dont know if you can really call it a rebuilding year when hes 4 years in to his contract. Its more of a charlie strongs recruits have left year...

 

[Thecycle27]

He is in a tricky spot. They have recruited to their weakness like they did with their offensive line last year. It will be interesting to see how many of the long time commits sign early. He can remove him now, wait til the end of the season, or after the early signing period. I think waiting puts them in a really tough spot recruiting wise which you can't afford at this point. At this point, if he has decided to make a move, he needs to do it now and promote Ward.

 

[Strongtino]

I appreciate the effort and the honesty but I'm not so sure this is a "rebuilding" issue. Personally I don't think this is a talent issue...I think this is a mentality and a coaching issue and that starts at the top. Guys like Jeff Brohm, Chris Peterson (at Boise), Mike Leach, etc...regularly went in and either challenged or beat better teams. Because they were well coached and well disciplined.

Under Petrino 2-0 this Louisville program has been one of the most penalized and turnover prone teams in the country. Not only that but they nearly always look unprepared, confused and out of place and lack a ton of basic fundamental skills on the football field. That isn't "rebuilding" and that isn't getting beat because the other team is simply more talented. Look at his latest tenure here and you see a pattern emerge UL always shoots itself in the foot, turns the ball over and will always rack of penalties.

To further prove that point look at the bad teams they've either outright lost to or barely beaten in his 4 years at Louisville. Thats coaching.

 

[CardsFirst]

I appreciate the effort and the honesty but I'm not so sure this is a "rebuilding" issue. Personally I don't think this is a talent issue...I think this is a mentality and a coaching issue and that starts at the top. Guys like Jeff Brohm, Chris Peterson (at Boise), Mike Leach, etc...regularly went in and either challenged or beat better teams. Because they were well coached and well disciplined.

Under Petrino 2-0 this Louisville program has been one of the most penalized and turnover prone teams in the country. Not only that but they nearly always look unprepared, confused and out of place and lack a ton of basic fundamental skills on the football field. That isn't "rebuilding" and that isn't getting beat because the other team is simply more talented. Look at his latest tenure here and you see a pattern emerge UL always shoots itself in the foot, turns the ball over and will always rack of penalties.

To further prove that point look at the bad teams they've either outright lost to or barely beaten in his 4 years at Louisville. Thats coaching.

This is likely the correct view.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Bobby's not going anywhere this year. Even if he wants to. Nowhere "big" anyway.

I'm sure he is torn to pieces over this. What competitor wouldn't be?

This is the worst 4th year he's ever had anywhere. His rep is on the line as far as HC material goes. He's made that rep on the backs of others recruits, with a few of his thrown in for good measure.

When we hired him back, and most were ECSTATIC that we had him for life THIS time, I pointed out the fact that he'd never built, or maintained anything on his own.

Now, CBP (and UofL) are at a crossroads. He has to quit worrying about his title of Offensive Genius, and concentrate on being a P5 HEAD COACH.

He does this or we get someone who is eventually.

That said, I would hope he gets his head out of his ass, and pulls this together because he is capable of some damn exciting FB.

Whether he can do this on his own is what we are going to find out.

 

[Cue Card]

I stand with the University of Louisville, with the students, and student-athletes who choose to stand with the University of Louisville.

I'll stand with whomever the coach is too, but that's not my main priority. The University and the kids are the #1 priority.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Bobby's not going anywhere this year. Even if he wants to. Nowhere "big" anyway.

I'm sure he is torn to pieces over this. What competitor wouldn't be?

This is the worst 4th year he's ever had anywhere. His rep is on the line as far as HC material goes. He's made that rep on the backs of others recruits, with a few of his thrown in for good measure.

When we hired him back, and everyone was ECSTATIC that we had him for life THIS time, I pointed out the fact that he'd never built, or maintained anything on his own.

Now, CBP (and UofL) are at a crossroads. He has to quit worrying about his title of Offensive Genius, and concentrate on being a P5 HEAD COACH.

He does this or we get someone who is eventually.

That said, I would hope he gets his head out of his ass, and pulls this together because he is capable of some damn exciting FB.

Whether he can do this on his own is what we are going to find out.

This guy wasnt estatic he was rehired.
I was against it.

 

[wilkie01]

The problem as I see it is we are paying $5 million and getting $500 thousand performance.

 

[Rollem Cards]

This guy wasnt estatic he was rehired.
I was against it.

Ok.

I changed it to "most" were ecstatic.

For the record, I didn't want him back either, but once it was done, what do you do? I said we would at least have some exciting offense again, and some pretty good FB.

I was half right.

And still hoping he can get it done.

But the clock is ticking.

 

[CardsDan]

Stand in the place where you live
Now face north
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven't before

 

[Morgantown Card]

The talk about firing Bobby is just ridiculous. Who is going to hire the new coach? David Padgett? LOL. Ridiculous. With the athletic department in its current state, who is going to come in and take the program to a higher level than where it is? Even Jeff Brohm would want to wait and see how the dust settles before coming back. And if Tom Jurich is retained somehow, you can forget Jeff Brohm.

You folks wanting Bobby fired are effectively begging for Steve Kragthorpe to come back, because that's who we're going to get metaphorically if Bobby Petrino is fired.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

I don't want Bobby fired.

It is more likely Bobby finds a more appealing job and leaves than getting canned. There is no way he's getting fired.

It is yet to be seen if he can get this headed in the right direction, a good opportunity exists this weekend. It's also not clear he wants to stick around. Jurich is in limbo, and Petrino does not have a track record for sticking in one place too long.

 

[Morgantown Card]

It's also not clear he wants to stick around. Jurich is in limbo, and Petrino does not have a track record for sticking in one place too long.

Bobby's stock isn't at his current $5MM/year salary right now. I can't see a program watching this defense get 45 hung it on it by Boston College (of all teams!) and be ready to write that kind of check.

 

[zipp]

...My expectations are 8-4 or 7-5 is a bad year...

This is what thinking with your gut often leads to...

Forget about 7 or 8 wins... You do realize that only about a dozen teams in all of P5 football have had non-losing seasons (6+ wins) each year of the last decade, right? That's an even shorter list at 7 or 8 games.

There's nothing "bad" about--perish the thought--occasionally having a losing season. Happens to all but the very best football programs, and often programs that are simply lucky not to hire a K-rag or a bad D coordinator. You endure it, and try to keep it at one year...

 

[CardsFirst]

Bobby's not going anywhere this year. Even if he wants to. Nowhere "big" anyway.

I'm sure he is torn to pieces over this. What competitor wouldn't be?

This is the worst 4th year he's ever had anywhere. His rep is on the line as far as HC material goes. He's made that rep on the backs of others recruits, with a few of his thrown in for good measure.

When we hired him back, and most were ECSTATIC that we had him for life THIS time, I pointed out the fact that he'd never built, or maintained anything on his own.

Now, CBP (and UofL) are at a crossroads. He has to quit worrying about his title of Offensive Genius, and concentrate on being a P5 HEAD COACH.

He does this or we get someone who is eventually.

That said, I would hope he gets his head out of his ass, and pulls this together because he is capable of some damn exciting FB.

Whether he can do this on his own is what we are going to find out.

I feel once Pass hit the field things will improve especially with the experience the O line is gaining. Not to take anything away from LJ but I see Pass as more of a CBP style QB. Will see. But the looming question is will the D improve under Sirmon. I personally don’t think it will. Hope he make a liar out of me.,

 

[CardsFirst]

...My expectations are 8-4 or 7-5 is a bad year...

This is what thinking with your gut often leads to...

Forget about 7 or 8 wins... You do realize that only about a dozen teams in all of P5 football have had non-losing seasons (6+ wins) each year of the last decade, right? That's an even shorter list at 7 or 8 games.

There's nothing "bad" about--perish the thought--occasionally having a losing season. Happens to all but the very best football programs, and often programs that are simply lucky not to hire a K-rag or a bad D coordinator. You endure it, and try to keep it at one year...

Anything less than 7 wins is still a bad season. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but it’s still a bad season. And if we strive to be the very best it should be unacceptable. I never want to think it’s ok to go 6-6 or less. But I do agree it will happen and the trick is not making it a habit.

 

[beantowncard]

Stand in the place where you live
Now face north
Think about direction
Wonder why you haven't before

Huh?

 

[TheRealVille]

The talk about firing Bobby is just ridiculous. Who is going to hire the new coach? David Padgett? LOL. Ridiculous. With the athletic department in its current state, who is going to come in and take the program to a higher level than where it is? Even Jeff Brohm would want to wait and see how the dust settles before coming back. And if Tom Jurich is retained somehow, you can forget Jeff Brohm.

You folks wanting Bobby fired are effectively begging for Steve Kragthorpe to come back, because that's who we're going to get metaphorically if Bobby Petrino is fired.

Well, maybe some Cards fans can't let go of Petrino's first stint here. Those days are gone forever. The latest Bobby Petrino should be judged and it's not very good.

Everyone wants Jeff Brohm because of his offense but look what he's done so far with Purdue's defense. They go to Wisconsin and give up only 17 points. Just imagine what the Badgers would of done to the Cards defense.

Petrino is 1-9 against ranked teams and he's now lost two home games when favored by 20 +. To me it's obvious that UofL needs a better football coach. Forget about what he did in CUSA.

 

[TheRealVille]

Huh?

Stand by R.E.M.

 

[beantowncard]

Stand by R.E.M.

Again I say huh?

 

[TheRealVille]

Again I say huh?

My guess is he's using the lyric to say look at Brohm up there North of Louisville.

 

[Morgantown Card]

I feel once Pass hit the field things will improve especially with the experience the O line is gaining. Not to take anything away from LJ but I see Pass as more of a CBP style QB. Will see. But the looming question is will the D improve under Sirmon. I personally don’t think it will. Hope he make a liar out of me.,

Lamar is the best player in college football. It will be a step back offensively. Look what he did on Saturday. Totally agree about the defense - THAT is the problem and that's on HCBP to fix.

 

[beantowncard]

My guess is he's using the lyric to say look at Brohm up there North of Louisville.

OK, guess I’m getting old.

 

[zipp]

Lamar is the best player in college football. It will be a step back offensively. Look what he did on Saturday. Totally agree about the defense - THAT is the problem and that's on HCBP to fix.

I'm gonna push back a little on the "without Lamar" argument...

No question, the guy is the best player in football. His results show that. But I don't know that he's the best at making his team better. When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

If his consistency and completion percentage were higher, he'd be all everything. But when we struggle as a team, it's often when the offense isn't running well. And that's usually on Lamar...

 

[Cue Card]

I'm gonna push back a little on the "without Lamar" argument...

No question, the guy is the best player in football. His results show that. But I don't know that he's the best at making his team better. When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

If his consistency and completion percentage were higher, he'd be all everything. But when we struggle as a team, it's often when the offense isn't running well. And that's usually on Lamar...

I agree with that. LJ is a explosive elusive athlete, but IMO he isn't a natural born leader. Please don't get me wrong. I love watching him play football. I really do and I agree he is the best athlete in college football. I do not believe he is the best football player though. There are more pure football players who make their team around them better. That's not LJ. Not IMO.

 

[Rollem Cards]

When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

LJ is the Einstein of CFB.

He can figure out, and DO, the spectacular, but the everyday QB duties escape him. Sometimes he seems bored with doing the routine things.

Every game he looks more and more like he's trying to be something he's not.

But Jeeeezzzzzz.....if he ever puts it all together? OMG.

 

[Morgantown Card]

I'm gonna push back a little on the "without Lamar" argument...

No question, the guy is the best player in football. His results show that. But I don't know that he's the best at making his team better. When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

If his consistency and completion percentage were higher, he'd be all everything. But when we struggle as a team, it's often when the offense isn't running well. And that's usually on Lamar...

But - what if he didn't have to score 5 TDs and have over 500 yards of offense because our Peter's defense can't stop Boston College (Boston College!!!) of all teams from scoring?

If the team continues to play like it has been, there will be more people questioning his abilities. The good news from all of this is that I think Lamar comes back next year with a more experienced OL and offensive skill positions and my God I hope a better defense.

 

[zipp]

My point is about Lamar...if Jawon Pass turns out to be a more well-oiled-machine type of QB, I'm not sure how much dropoff there will be when Lamar leaves. Picture replacing Lamar with Stefan Lefors. It might actually HELP some players and position groups.

We're gonna find out either way, and maybe as early as a bowl game...

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Lots of talk about offense - big picture, with this regime, offense is the least of the worries. We can split hairs about what we want to see, or don't see, on that side of the ball...etc. Bottom line the offense checks in #14 in adjusted ranking, and that's enough to win, or keep you in games.

The problem is the defense. It's a struggling unit.

 

[xmlmetal]

We are in a rebuilding year with a Heisman trophy winning talent. Bobby 2.0 may not look the same, but Bobby 1.0 had the 2 best hometown recruits ever come through the program while playing a Conference USA schedule

This year hurts more because of how close we were last year and then the fall back to Earth ever since that night in Houston where Herman found the way to beat us.

We lost a lot of good skill players and even some offensive lineman from an already porous unit to begin with last year. We also lost some high level defensive players as well.

We are not a program that can lose a lot and just replenish with top level guys year in and out. We aren't Clemson and FSU where even our down years we compete for titles. Geography is gonna be our biggest issue in that area on top of having another P5 school in our same state...with our SMALL talent pool in the bluegrass. LPT has had the same problem as well (along with incompetance in coaching selections/contracts).

We now are playing big boy P5 football. Every team we play no matter the record is going to have legitimate talent and be a threat (Like BC or Virginia). We aren't a big dog in a little yard. We have to build a program with depth for a 12 game grind, no more little games we can take breaks.

But guess what, this is what I want and think Bobby is the guy to do it. Yes we do need to demand more and not settle, but be realistic about where we are as a program.

We aren't gonna compete from titles year in and out over night.

Bobby had us a field goal away from a national title..we ended up winning an Orange Bowl. He showed that we could follow through on Howard's promise. Bobby coached our team that was in the playoff race last year. Bobby signed Lamar and designed the offensive scheme that won him the Heisman trophy.

Howard got it started, but we are on the national stage because of him now. The big games in 2006 and last year, the Orange Bowl, and the Heisman trophy win have put our program on the national stage. Lets not forget Bobby was competing with LSU, Bama, Auburn when the $EC was actually the dominant conference and he had Arkansas a top team consistently, even ended his run in a BCS Bowl.

Bobby is a proven winner here and in the power 5 overall. Is it fair to be upset with this team...yes and we should always get mad when things are bad. But calling for Bobby's head is unfair. Bobby is a great coach and it will be hard to get another like him, there is a reason the national guys still are putting him in the rumors for the big jobs. Give up now and you will be sorry, just don't jump back on the train when we are back with Fitz and Pass leading the way when these young guys learn the offense and gain some experience.

GO CARDS!

Hey is this Frankie Petrino? Bobby’s unborn grandson trying to make sure his grandpa is still here so he can hire him to coach wide receivers?

 

[LeFors4Ever]

I'm gonna push back a little on the "without Lamar" argument...

No question, the guy is the best player in football. His results show that. But I don't know that he's the best at making his team better. When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

If his consistency and completion percentage were higher, he'd be all everything. But when we struggle as a team, it's often when the offense isn't running well. And that's usually on Lamar...

I agree...to an extent

Lamar scores quickly or goes three and out. No in between, and I think that has worn on our D the last few years. Without Radcliffe, we don't have a back that can have a long sustained drive.

I'll also say that it is hard to block for a QB like Lamar. When he extends plays, he extends it for the O-Line too...they don't know what he's gonna do or where he's going to go and that can be tiring.

Those are not bad things by any means, it is just what you get with a guy like Lamar. Along with being young all over the offense..it really is hard to develop a consistent offense.

Would we be better with another QB? HECK NO, but I think with Pass and the other guys getting more experience, we will have a typical Bobby 1.0 type offense.

I mean the talk of the city when Pass committed was that Bobby went and got the QB he wanted from Bama and Auburn. Lamar surprised us all, but Im anxious to see what the offense will do when the pieces all fall together.

PASS WILL NOT BE BETTER THAN LAMAR DO NOT GET IT TWISTED LAMAR IS THE BEST PLAYER WE HAVE AND PROBABLY WILL EVER HAVE.

 

[BPGhost]

I'm gonna push back a little on the "without Lamar" argument...

No question, the guy is the best player in football. His results show that. But I don't know that he's the best at making his team better. When you need a spectacular play, he's your guy. When you need a well oiled machine on offense, I ain't sure about Lamar.

If his consistency and completion percentage were higher, he'd be all everything. But when we struggle as a team, it's often when the offense isn't running well. And that's usually on Lamar...

Play calling is on petrino. If he called plays - ran the same basic offense that he ran with Lefors - it would be unstoppable with LJ.

 

[Rollem Cards]

I think Pass has a very good chance of being a better QUARTERBACK than Lamar.

You know, the guy who manages the game, gets under center, hands the ball off, hits open receivers, and runs out of trouble when necessary.

But he will never be a better player. We will probably never see a better one at UofL. Maybe nowhere.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Can Pass play defensive line? That's where the issues start fellas.

 

[teamcanada]

Play calling is on petrino. If he called plays - ran the same basic offense that he ran with Lefors - it would be unstoppable with LJ.

Whatever he was running against BC was pretty unstoppable. The issues aren't with the offense.