Future Schedules

[tkdcoach]

Haven't been able to find a full game video of the Louisville Marshall game to occupy the football portion of my brain this early week. I must've watched the FSU game at least 12x by now and it still isn't worn out but do tend to prefer the latest game. Anyhow, I decided to go check out our future schedules to fill the gap and see what I can find out (all from easily available Internet info or extrapolating from regular conference rotation).

EDITED: Note that the order of games is not set unless the date has been named below (sources are available by googling "louisville future football schedules" and "ACC cross-divisional rotation").

Louisville 2017 Football Opponents

09/02 (neutral) Purdue (at Indy)
@North Carolina
09/23 Kent State
09/30 Murray State
BostonCollege
@Florida State
Virginia
Clemson
@NC State
@ Wake Forest
Syracuse
11/25 @Kentucky


Louisville 2018 Football Opponents

09/01Alabama (Orlando)
09/08 Indiana State
TBD OOC
Georgia Tech
Florida State
@BostonCollege
@Virginia
@Clemson
NC State
Wake Forest
@Syracuse
11/24 Kentucky

Louisville 2019 Football Opponents

09/02 Notre Dame (Labor Day)
TBD OOC
TBD OOC
@Miami
@Florida State
BostonCollege
Virginia
Clemson
@NC State
@ Wake Forest
Syracuse
11/30 @Kentucky

 

[tolylou]

Thanks for the info. Interesting that our schedules are front loaded. I like that we can set the pace for everyone else and see if others can catch up.

 

[Cue Card]

Thanks for the info. Interesting that our schedules are front loaded. I like that we can set the pace for everyone else and see if others can catch up.

As long as UofK is last, every schedule is going to be front loaded. No exceptions.

 

[Kratz]

Be interesting to see if Lamar hangs around for that Bama game.

Don't like two cupcakes in a row early next season. We're better than that. Other than Clemson, the home schedule sucks next year.

 

[tkdcoach]

The order of the games is not set other than where I listed dates so not certain it'll be two cupcakes in a row. We do know we have a cupcake in our last game every year though! ;-)

Be interesting to see if Lamar hangs around for that Bama game.

Don't like two cupcakes in a row early next season. We're better than that. Other than Clemson, the home schedule sucks next year.

 

[tkdcoach]

I'm actually hoping if we win conference that we'll get the slot at end of October that is currently held by Clemson vs. FSU.

I listed dates where the source I used had dates. Edited above to indicate that the order of these games is not certain so we don't know if they're front- or back-loaded as yet. Not to mention that teams rise and fall (OK, sure, Clemson and FSU haven't fallen much in a good long while).

Thanks for the info. Interesting that our schedules are front loaded. I like that we can set the pace for everyone else and see if others can catch up.

 

[wilkie01]

Be interesting to see if Lamar hangs around for that Bama game.

Don't like two cupcakes in a row early next season. We're better than that. Other than Clemson, the home schedule sucks next year.

But have you considered, it allows the young players, 2nd and 3rd stringers to get playing time? This allows us to develope team depth. So I can live with it.

 

[Kratz]

But have you considered, it allows the young players, 2nd and 3rd stringers to get playing time? This allows us to develope team depth. So I can live with it.

Then schedule some respectable but lesser teams. One cupcake...... OK. Two? (Kent and Murray), we're above that.

In what will probably be Lamars last season, the home crowd will only get to see him against top notch competition once (Clemson). The rest of the games he'll be sitting early as the crowds file out in the middle of the 3rd quarter because UofL is up 40. Kent, Murray, BC, UVA and Syracuse....... Yawn...........

 

[PushupMan]

FBschedules.com is the best website on the internet for all future college football schedules information.

Beyond 2019 we have the following games scheduled in the non-conference:
2020: @Notre Dame
2021 and 2022: No games scheduled yet
2023: Indiana (in Indianapolis), Notre Dame
2024: Indiana
2025: @Indiana
2026 and 2027: No games scheduled yet.

The UK series under the current contract ends after the 2019 season.

Regarding the Kent and Murray comment ... we have Purdue at a neutral site and Kentucky on the road. We need two home games to have six for next year. Also, keep in mind that ESPN is asking the ACC to have 10 games against P5 schools. The schedule with 8 ACC games plus Purdue and UK meets that criteria.

It is problematic to project how good each of our six home opponents will be more than a year ahead. Boston College may have a new coach. Babers will be in year two at Syracuse with a very good junior QB. We haven't even played UVa this year yet. Clemson should be very good but will almost certainly be replacing Deshaun Watson.

 

[tolylou]

Be interesting to see if Lamar hangs around for that Bama game.

Doubt it. Baring injury, he should be making a lot of money by then. Besides, he most likely will have a chance of playing Bama before that

 

[real2it]

Then schedule some respectable but lesser teams. One cupcake...... OK. Two? (Kent and Murray), we're above that.

In what will probably be Lamars last season, the home crowd will only get to see him against top notch competition once (Clemson). The rest of the games he'll be sitting early as the crowds file out in the middle of the 3rd quarter because UofL is up 40. Kent, Murray, BC, UVA and Syracuse....... Yawn...........

You aren't giving the competition any credit. I'm not saying UL will lose to any of those teams but they may be good games. SU and UVA will be much improved and will continue to get better under the current staffs!

 

[American Male]

There's always North Dakota State!!!

 

[teamcanada]

Be interesting to see if Lamar hangs around for that Bama game.

Don't like two cupcakes in a row early next season. We're better than that. Other than Clemson, the home schedule sucks next year.

That a heck of a way for the Pass era to start if Lamar boogies.

 

[tkdcoach]

With Bolin gone, Pass will get lots of mop up experience in 2017, so he will at least not be a complete newbie.

That a heck of a way for the Pass era to start if Lamar boogies.

 

[zipp]

Our scheduling issue is that our P5 home-and-home series, LPT, is with a patsy. That means a sixth home game each year is a no-return game with another patsy.

Neutral site games with schools like IU and Purdue are kinda yawners. We get ND every three years on average, but only every six years at home. A neutral-site marquee opponent like Bama would be great to have every other year. But that means to get six home games in those years, you're back to paying patsies to play no-return games here.

If LPT was a stronger opponent like most of the SEC-ACC games are, we would be happier with our schedule. They're dragging us down...

 

[Mayoman]

Our scheduling issue is that our P5 home-and-home series, LPT, is with a patsy. That means a sixth home game each year is a no-return game with another patsy.

Neutral site games with schools like IU and Purdue are kinda yawners. We get ND every three years on average, but only every six years at home. A neutral-site marquee opponent like Bama would be great to have every other year. But that means to get six home games in those years, you're back to paying patsies to play no-return games here.

If LPT was a stronger opponent like most of the SEC-ACC games are, we would be happier with our schedule. They're dragging us down...

But, but, but.....they're 2-2 and on a 2 game winning streak......Stoops is on a roll and living in a holiday inn......come on man.....you gotta give them some respect man.
jk

 

[Cue Card]

But, but, but.....their 2-2 and on a 2 game winning streak......Stoops is on a roll and living in a holiday inn......come on man.....you gotta give them some respect man.
jk

I'll respect them a wee bit if they stay within 4 TD's of Alabama.

 

[Kratz]

Our scheduling issue is that our P5 home-and-home series, LPT, is with a patsy. That means a sixth home game each year is a no-return game with another patsy.

Neutral site games with schools like IU and Purdue are kinda yawners. We get ND every three years on average, but only every six years at home. A neutral-site marquee opponent like Bama would be great to have every other year. But that means to get six home games in those years, you're back to paying patsies to play no-return games here.

If LPT was a stronger opponent like most of the SEC-ACC games are, we would be happier with our schedule. They're dragging us down...

Respectfully disagree. UK isn't on the home schedule next year to begin with. So that makes that part of the argument moot. Plus, regardless of how they're playing, we all get stoked to some degree over this game. Yes, I'd love to see UK get better so it would be more competitive and the game would mean more, but I still like beating them every year. The last two years have been exceptionally satisfactory because we kept them from being bowl eligible.

Other than Clemson, next years home schedule sucks. No two ways about it. Who's the next best team we play? UVA or Syracuse?

 

[PushupMan]

Respectfully disagree. UK isn't on the home schedule next year to begin with. So that makes that part of the argument moot. Plus, regardless of how they're playing, we all get stoked to some degree over this game. Yes, I'd love to see UK get better so it would be more competitive and the game would mean more, but I still like beating them every year. The last two years have been exceptionally satisfactory because we kept them from being bowl eligible.

Other than Clemson, next years home schedule sucks. No two ways about it. Who's the next best team we play? UVA or Syracuse?

At this point, I'd have to go with Virginia. They are one of only four ACC teams to beat us (along with Pitt, Clemson, and FSU) since we joined the conference.

 

[Kratz]

At this point, I'd have to go with Virginia. They are one of only four ACC teams to beat us (along with Pitt, Clemson, and FSU) since we joined the conference.

And who did UVA lose to a couple of weeks ago? James Madison or some school like that........

 

[Kratz]

I'm sorry, it was Richmond. Right now UVA is 1-3 with losses to Richmond and UConn.

 

[CardinalHaze]

But, but, but.....their 2-2 and on a 2 game winning streak......Stoops is on a roll and living in a holiday inn......come on man.....you gotta give them some respect man.
jk

LPT Football: "pitiful, pitiful football."

 

[PushupMan]

I'm sorry, it was Richmond. Right now UVA is 1-3 with losses to Richmond and UConn.

They've made a lot of progress recently - their new QB Kurt Benkert, just threw for 421 yards and 5 TDs against Central Michigan this week.

 

[Kratz]

We'll see how it plays out next season, but as of now I'm sticking with the home schedule SUCKS next year with the exception of Clemson.

 

[zipp]

Respectfully disagree. UK isn't on the home schedule next year to begin with. So that makes that part of the argument moot. Plus, regardless of how they're playing, we all get stoked to some degree over this game. Yes, I'd love to see UK get better so it would be more competitive and the game would mean more, but I still like beating them every year. The last two years have been exceptionally satisfactory because we kept them from being bowl eligible...

It doesn't matter whether LPT is a home game in a given year or not. The quality of our home schedule IMO is an issue every year, and largely because LPT is a home-and-home series. And it doesn't help the quality of our home schedule having LPT on it anymore. Here's how the 2016 teams playing here are ranked by RPI:

11. FSU
32. Wake F
65. NC State
83. Duke
84. LPT
126. Charlotte

Unless your passion is beating LPT, they're between Duke and Charlotte as far as an attraction. And because they tie up a fifth home-and-home series (the other four being ACC games), scheduling LPT necessitates us scheduling a home cupcake like Charlotte every year. It comes with the package. So in effect, you like having BOTH the LPT game and Charlotte on our home schedule this year. Sorry, not me. I'm spending good money to see those poor quality teams, and with Petrino's upcoming raise, I'll be spending more very soon.

Those of you hanging onto the LPT football game need to start lobbying 2-for-1 or no-return games with them. Teams of the "quality" of Charlotte and LPT this year--and Kent and Murray State next year--do not automatically deserve return games...

 

[CardinalHaze]

It doesn't matter whether LPT is a home game in a given year or not. The quality of our home schedule IMO is an issue every year, and largely because LPT is a home-and-home series. And it doesn't help the quality of our home schedule having LPT on it anymore. Here's how the 2016 teams playing here are ranked by RPI:

11. FSU
32. Wake F
65. NC State
83. Duke
84. LPT
126. Charlotte

Unless your passion is beating LPT, they're between Duke and Charlotte as far as an attraction. And because they tie up a fifth home-and-home series (the other four being ACC games), scheduling LPT necessitates us scheduling a home cupcake like Charlotte every year. It comes with the package. So in effect, you like having BOTH the LPT game and Charlotte on our home schedule this year. Sorry, not me. I'm spending good money to see those poor quality teams, and with Petrino's upcoming raise, I'll be spending more very soon.

Those of you hanging onto the LPT football game need to start lobbying 2-for-1 or no-return games with them. Teams of the "quality" of Charlotte and LPT this year--and Kent and Murray State next year--do not automatically deserve return games...

There are two ways to approach the LPT game, logically and politically.
Logically, it makes no sense to keep playing them when they refuse to make a commitment to football( aka: Stoops) thus, they drag our SOS down the toilet, especially when we have to play another "jelly roll" to get six home games every year. So, from a logical stand point, I think we need to cut them loose so we can schedule a "real" football program and LPT can book a long term agreement with Arkansas State.
Politically, it's more difficult to get this moronic game off our schedule as it makes us look arrogantly similar to LPT in the years prior to playing us. All we can hope for, is the $EC going to 9 conference games. Ol' mitchy would then have the "blessing" of the conference and "uahkay fans" to drop the series. I keep hoping that decision comes every year.

LPT Football: "pitiful, pitiful football."

 

[zipp]

There's a logical way to handle the LPT football game which will placate them as well. Those old enough to recall, it's what Howard said when he came here... Howard said we'd press for a series when we were ready to play them. So you tell LPT we're suspending the games until they get their ship righted. (Like that will ever happen...) Once they're competitive--we'll add "again" to make them feel better--the series will resume. They'll take that deal because we all know they take every means possible to dummy down their football schedule, thus ensuring their long term ineptitude.

The agreement needs to also pass muster with the SEC and ACC. A great leverage is to see if the SEC will replace LPT with another conference team not named Vandy, Arkansas, or one with Mississippi in their names. I'd love an annual, final game with an SEC team missing an ACC rival, like Tennessee or LSU. What the hell is a rival anyway except two good teams regularly playing on TV??

Those wanting to continue playing LPT in football need to recognize when you've won the race. You stop running and wave the checkered flag. It doesn't have to be us beating them routinely. Just as much fun hearing their fans whine no matter who the opponent is. And you don't have to keep challenging them to a race to prove your superiority. Read their message boards...except for the crazies, they know where they stand...

 

[PushupMan]

I'm okay with dropping the series with UK, but if you do not have a home-and-home series with another SEC school (or schools) from now until 2036 (the end of the current ACC grant of rights), then you are wasting everyone's internet bandwidth with this "drop UK" crapola.

For the record, the last SEC school besides UK to agree to a home and home series with us was ... no one, because none ever have.

So once you get that accomplished for the first time in history, your next task will be to schedule us another home and home with a Power5 program two out of every three years (when we are not playing Notre Dame), in order to meet the requirements of the ACC Network.

Please keep all of that in mind before you decide to throw away the Governor's Cup game just because you think scheduling UK is beneath us.

 

[zipp]

There's absolutely no question that "scheduling LPT is beneath us". At least for the foreseeable future. They for damn sure don't deserve a home-and-home series arrangement. Schools like WKU and Marshall deserve that a helluva lot more, at least from a performance standpoint. And is there really any other valid perspective? Certainly not as a legacy "rivalry" in name only.

I don't schedule, I just observe. It's not my responsibility to do anything. Jurich is that guy, and the proper leverage IMO are the two conferences. They want quality end-of-season games between the conferences, and there are several possibilities. As fans, we simply need to let U of L know that's what we want. I certainly plan to...

 

[PushupMan]

There's absolutely no question that "scheduling LPT is beneath us". At least for the foreseeable future. They for damn sure don't deserve a home-and-home series arrangement. Schools like WKU and Marshall deserve that a helluva lot more, at least from a performance standpoint. And is there really any other valid perspective? Certainly not as a legacy "rivalry" in name only.

I don't schedule, I just observe. It's not my responsibility to do anything. Jurich is that guy, and the proper leverage IMO are the two conferences. They want quality end-of-season games between the conferences, and there are several possibilities. As fans, we simply need to let U of L know that's what we want. I certainly plan to...

Observe something useful. This topic is beneath your usually keen insights. Schools like WKU and Marshall do not deserve home and home arrangements with us because they are not part of the SEC brand, as UK is.

 

[zipp]

Observe something useful. This topic is beneath your usually keen insights. Schools like WKU and Marshall do not deserve home and home arrangements with us because they are not part of the SEC brand, as UK is.

Thanks for the backhanded compliment. But is suggesting that LPT is representative of the "SEC brand" one of your better insights? Even when their own fans acknowledge otherwise?

And that's the point... We're playing one of the "SEC" schools that we get very little credit for playing because of their poor football program. That's not a relationship to hold dear, even if it's not a view widely shared (yet) by our fanbase.

We also can't have a discussion about future schedules without a serious discussion about the team that occupies 25% of the games that we have a choice in scheduling (OOC)...

 

[tkdcoach]

We also can't have a discussion about future schedules without a serious discussion about the team that occupies 25% of the games that we have a choice in scheduling (OOC)...

We don't really have a choice though. For one thing, we're the ones who demanded the series, but more to the point, it's part of the ACC vs SEC package and our conference is relying on us to pad the conference numbers. ;-) (Yes, I know you've argued against even that much in other threads but not convincingly imo).

 

[zipp]

We don't really have a choice though. For one thing, we're the ones who demanded the series, but more to the point, it's part of the ACC vs SEC package and our conference is relying on us to pad the conference numbers. ;-) (Yes, I know you've argued against even that much in other threads but not convincingly imo).

Well, you certainly have more of a choice than the conference games. I'd argue that any OOC game is within the school's ultimate discretion. Whether we believe it will happen, how many times have we heard that LPT will drop the series if/when the SEC goes to nine games?

Neither conference can force us to sign that LPT contract even though that's assumed what we will do. A viable alternative should be to set up another SEC "rivalry" game annually. If it gets LPT an easier team to play and a good SEC team for us to play, I think LPT and the conferences would support that. And the fans should...

 

[CardinalHaze]

We don't really have a choice though. For one thing, we're the ones who demanded the series, but more to the point, it's part of the ACC vs SEC package and our conference is relying on us to pad the conference numbers. ;-) (Yes, I know you've argued against even that much in other threads but not convincingly imo).

Pushup, I respect and logically agree with your point. I also side with Zipp, from the OOC/SOS standpoint.
More importantly, this argument will come home to roost in 2017. Our OOC consists of: Purdue, Kent, Murray and uahkay. The SOS cannot get any worse for the OOC. We better hope and pray we win the ACC championship. In fact, we may need to go undefeated to even be considered for a playoff birth.
It's always been my contention with a four team playoff and five conference champs, your SOS will make or brake you at the subjective committee level.

LPT Football: "pitiful, pitiful football."

 

[tkdcoach]

Pushup, I respect and logically agree with your point. I also side with Zipp, from the OOC/SOS standpoint.
More importantly, this argument will come home to roost in 2017. Our OOC consists of: Purdue, Kent, Murray and uahkay. The SOS cannot get any worse for the OOC. We better hope and pray we win the ACC championship. "

We pick up UNC next year and they're headed towards being a Top 25 team. Btw, you quoted me, but argued against Pushup's points. Not sure if that's what you meant to do.

 

[nccardfan]

There are two ways to approach the LPT game, logically and politically.
Logically, it makes no sense to keep playing them when they refuse to make a commitment to football( aka: Stoops) thus, they drag our SOS down the toilet, especially when we have to play another "jelly roll" to get six home games every year. So, from a logical stand point, I think we need to cut them loose so we can schedule a "real" football program and LPT can book a long term agreement with Arkansas State.
Politically, it's more difficult to get this moronic game off our schedule as it makes us look arrogantly similar to LPT in the years prior to playing us. All we can hope for, is the $EC going to 9 conference games. Ol' mitchy would then have the "blessing" of the conference and "uahkay fans" to drop the series. I keep hoping that decision comes every year.

LPT Football: "pitiful, pitiful football."

So you think UK wants to suck at football by hiring someone like Stoops? Completely opposite. They thought by hiring someone with the name (stoops) and pedigree (FSU) that they were making a commitment to football (similar to hiring a Bowden). We as Cardinal fans should know all to well about bad coaching hires. I personally wanted crapthorpe gone after year one but it took awhile. However we also know how fast you can get back on your feet with a good hire even a decent hire. You cannot dispute that they have the resources (25th in college football revenue) and the fact there in the SEC that they won't be able to lure in a decent coach at some point. Would anybody raise an eyebrow if Briles (tarnished), Miles (easier division) or Mack Brown (still wants to coach) were to go UK? Maybe not, but our rivalry would become more competitive than what it is. Let's enjoy what we have now but don't assume that it can't change.

 

[zipp]

This issue has also never been as important to us as it is today... Our team is nationally recognized as a threat to win the NC. We have an active thread about "sustained success", which U of L fans certainly don't view as a question. All of the better teams we're competing against play one, maybe two strong OOC opponents every year. The CFP selection process is supposed to account for SOS in choosing its four teams.

Meanwhile, LPT football languishes as badly as it ever has. Anyone think that's likely to change sometime soon? Again, they occupy 25% of our OOC schedule, and we need six home games each year to pay for stadium expansions and coaches' salaries. LPT's not playing here every year even though I joke about that option--which makes scheduling them the only decision worth considering...

 

[PushupMan]

Thanks for the backhanded compliment. But is suggesting that LPT is representative of the "SEC brand" one of your better insights? Even when their own fans acknowledge otherwise?

And that's the point... We're playing one of the "SEC" schools that we get very little credit for playing because of their poor football program. That's not a relationship to hold dear, even if it's not a view widely shared (yet) by our fanbase.

We also can't have a discussion about future schedules without a serious discussion about the team that occupies 25% of the games that we have a choice in scheduling (OOC)...

It's not meant to be a backhanded compliment - you ARE one of the best posters on this website, and I greatly enjoy reading your posts.

I'm okay with having a discussion about the UK game ... I just haven't heard a single workable solution out of you that replaces UK with another P5 school (or schools), as required by the ACC and ESPN. Schools like WKU, Marshall, etc. are not the answer - we've been told that repeatedly by the networks. Sure, we can play them, but the first priority is at least two P5 schools on the schedule every year.

 

[cantmissprospect]

Pushup, I respect and logically agree with your point. I also side with Zipp, from the OOC/SOS standpoint.
More importantly, this argument will come home to roost in 2017. Our OOC consists of: Purdue, Kent, Murray and uahkay. The SOS cannot get any worse for the OOC. We better hope and pray we win the ACC championship. In fact, we may need to go undefeated to even be considered for a playoff birth.
It's always been my contention with a four team playoff and five conference champs, your SOS will make or brake you at the subjective committee level.

LPT Football: "pitiful, pitiful football."

2017 is finally the year where Coach Stoops has all the puzzle pieces in place. So your argument is moot.

 

[zipp]

It's not meant to be a backhanded compliment - you ARE one of the best posters on this website, and I greatly enjoy reading your posts.

I'm okay with having a discussion about the UK game ... I just haven't heard a single workable solution out of you that replaces UK with another P5 school (or schools), as required by the ACC and ESPN...

As do I enjoy your posts... I think 2016 presents us with a unique opportunity in this regard. The chasm between the programs has never been wider. There is also recognition nationally and among LPT fans that U of L has now elevated itself on a more permanent basis. If LPT and the SEC have little hope to compete against us in this game, let's say for the next decade, in whose interest is it to explore other scheduling options? I'd argue everyone's: the two schools, both conferences, and the networks.

We've had little success getting the better SEC schools to schedule us home-and-home in the past. But what's different now? Louisville is now a nationally respected opponent. The SEC teams vying for a national championship need to schedule good OOC teams. And the SEC may be convinced that our dropping LPT and substituting another SEC school is in their conference's best interests as well. LPT will argue as they always have that playing weaker teams helps get them get bowl eligible. (The SEC may have to endorse that embarrassing argument...) In its place, we set up a marquee SEC-ACC game on the Friday nite after Thanksgiving...Picture another Game Day opportunity!

I think the idea has to start from U of L' s and the ACC's position. It needs someone from U of L to drive it. They get LPT's buy-in, and then those parties approach the SEC conference office. It's all couched as temporary until LPT gets its football house in order (...right.) And as long as we all wait on LPT, we have a valid SEC team on our schedule--eventually that may become permanent. The SEC has an obligation to furnish us a good team, if not the same team.

Sound like a "workable solution"?...