I'm not saying Legend in the sense of Dr. Dunkenstein, but if you want to boast about our 2 NC's, the 3rd one I recognized but is undeniably tarnished, Kenny Payne was part of that. Also you can't now compare his stats from 37 years ago and say he wasn't a top scorer. You have to look at his numbers compared to the players before him. By the way, its still mind boggling that Griff is still our leading scorer of all time. And I'm glad you want to pick Fat Wayne as a comparison because as i remember a lot of fans considered him a disappointment until his last year.