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Early Thought on Cards @ FSU?

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FSU is a hot mess. Sound familiar?

Cards coming off emotional W

Cards first true road game, not sure what that environment will look like.

Cunningham's health? Dude couldn't really move out there. His health will have a big impact on what the Cards O could look like.


As for FSU, I am guessing they go back to Travis at QB and they try to run all over the Cards. The guy is mobile and a former Card was benched there but I still think they go back to him this week. Many of their fans wanna see Purdy. So who knows really.

Can Cards handle success?

Thoughts?
 
I'd feel good, but it's very very very dependent on their crowd. If their crowd isn't into the game then we'll be in great shape. But like you said, it's our first true road environment and we've seen teams struggle this year when they aren't used to that type of noise.
 
If Cards go up early I think what crowd there is will turn on the Noles. Then it will get ugly quick. Hopefully that’s what will happen. Luckily we’re not playing them the first week. Their crowd was like the FSU glory days for their opener against ND.
 
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It won’t be easy. We always have a tough time down there no matter how good or bad they are.
 
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Milton is listed as FSU's starter, per the depth chart released this morning. You know, momentum is real. Cards have got it. Question is can they capitalize on it?
 
Unless the Cards show up overconfident and lackadaisical, they should take care of FSU. The Cards have already played two teams better than FSU and didn't lose to their FCS opponent.

Being on the road should be little if no factor. Cards were basically on the road against Ole Miss and the Seminole faithful are not so faithful these days.

Anything can happen with college football, but the Cards are much better team than FSU and have more confidence.

Louisville 34
FSU 20
 
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It’s a scary game. I’ve said on other boards I thought FSU wasn’t good and was being overhyped. My only thing is a desperate team can be a dangerous team. Norvell is on the hot seat and he’s going to pull out all of the stops to try and get a win. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them go for it on 4th down a couple times. Anyways I think we win but as people have said before, we need to jump out on them early and try to break them and get them to roll over.
 
Again, anything is possible but for FSU to suddenly play confident, excellent football this Saturday is highly unlikely. It just doesn't happen that often. Fans are the only ones worrying about will a 0 and 3 team play much better to avoid 0 and 4.

Going into this game the FSU coaches should be using their time and energy preparing for Louisville instead of trying not to lose their team. There's lots of angst in Tallahassee.

Louisville on the other hand feels a whole lot better having just beat a team no one said they would. They also destroyed FSU last season and know they're in a position to put it to them again on their home field.

If Louisville comes out reckless or overconfident, they could give FSU momentum and confidence. But it's a long game and Louisville has the better team. They should do enough to hamper FSU's efforts to win their first game of the season.
 
I went to the game in Tallahassee in Jimbo Fischer’s last season. The fans had turned on him and the crowd was a non-factor in that game. It appears that they have turned on Norvell as well. Milton at QB concerns me because the guy is a gamer. That being said the Cards are a better team and aren’t in disarray like FSU.
 
It appears that FSU is excellent at stopping the run, giving up only 3 ypc, while we are not (5 ypc). Will FSU be smart enough to take the conservative approach of running the ball on offense and stopping the run on D? And will they be able to stick to that plan when they experience the inevitable adversity that always happens during any game? As someone else just mentioned, momentum is a real thing, and I often see teams on a losing streak struggle to handle that adversity.

We are exactly even on turnover margin on the year (4 giveaways and 4 takeaways). FSU is -6 (10 giveaways and 4 takeaways). We should have a very good memory of how that big negative TO margin can have a huge impact on the most important stat: wins and losses. We were -12 in 2020, losing several close games on the way to that 4-7 record.

Capitalizing on FSU mistakes will be critical. If they do not make any, FSU has more than enough NFL caliber talent on its roster to beat us.
 
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As I posted on another topic, FSU could be dangerous as they may be playing as a cornered wounded animal. This would be they’re fourth loss in a row. We better be ready
 
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If UL continues to have these youngsters improve from one game to the next, as we have witnessed thus far; we should be in good shape Saturday. As I understand, Malik was not injured …… he cramped up and it went beyond the point where fluids could assist in his recovery. I think he should be 100%. Freshman RB Cooley will get some more snaps, as he has the staff sees that he has some serious skill.
 
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I keep hearing that FSU has all this talent. Are we talking about recruiting status? Because they have a roster with lots of 4 star recruits is the talent that's being referred to?

Most power 5 schools have talent but that doesn't mean they are good football teams. This fear of FSU suddenly being the FSU of the past is what's really going on here. I have more trepidation that Louisville will be overconfident than FSU's talent will suddenly come to the forefront.
 
TheRealVille said:
I keep hearing that FSU has all this talent. Are we talking about recruiting status? Because they have a roster with lots of 4 star recruits is the talent that's being referred to?

Most power 5 schools have talent but that doesn't mean they are good football teams. This fear of FSU suddenly being the FSU of the past is what's really going on here. I have more trepidation that Louisville will be overconfident than FSU's talent will suddenly come to the forefront.
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Yes.
 
Ipartiedwithhopgood said:
FSU is a hot mess. Sound familiar?

Cards coming off emotional W

Cards first true road game, not sure what that environment will look like.

Cunningham's health? Dude couldn't really move out there. His health will have a big impact on what the Cards O could look like.


As for FSU, I am guessing they go back to Travis at QB and they try to run all over the Cards. The guy is mobile and a former Card was benched there but I still think they go back to him this week. Many of their fans wanna see Purdy. So who knows really.

Can Cards handle success?

Thoughts?
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If Cunningham is allowed to just soak and heal this week, he could be the difference
 
It seems like everytime we play Florida State it's a messed up scene down in Tallahassee. Even their defending title team came into the game underachieving and hunting a loss.

I want to see someone from among Huggins-Bruce, Braden Smith and Jordan Watkins really emerge in this game.
 
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Louisville can’ let them get off to a great start. FSU is going to be ready to play but if Louisville gets out quickly the fans will jump ship early. FSU doesn’t appear to be all in so a slow start and bad reaction by fans could turn it into a rout. On the flip side FSU comes out firing then Louisville has to respond.

The other factor is heat. Louisville still thin in a on defense.

It should be a close game.
 
If they fire Norvell after 2 years and bring in Sanders, boy that would just destroy their program for good. As bad as they think it is, it can and will get worse. FSU's issues are recruiting recruiting recruiting. They aren't deep and different coaching staffs have mixed things up.

Like I said about Satt, they need stability. Even if they know Norvell isn't long term, they have to build up the roster. They're recruiting fine and with talent like that, they can turn it around quickly. But to dump another coach and bring in Sanders who has never coached FBS football, that could end ugly.

Norvell can call plays and they have talent. Last year they randomly showed up and beat UNC, then laid more eggs. The talent they have is enough to make you watch. If they play like they did against ND, then we should worry. This will be our first real road test if their crowd is into the game, and it's shown that teams are taken a bit of guard this year when seeing a road crowd for the first time.
 
CardHack said:
It seems like everytime we play Florida State it's a messed up scene down in Tallahassee. Even their defending title team came into the game underachieving and hunting a loss.

I want to see someone from among Huggins-Bruce, Braden Smith and Jordan Watkins really emerge in this game.
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Welcome back, CH.
 
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There is absolutely nothing to say Dione Sanders can be a successful CFB

It has been written about, that some former super stars have a hard time realizing that not everyone can do thing as easily as they did. That makes for a demanding coach with unreasonable expectations, dealing with the snowflake generation.

I hope they hire him. ;)
 
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Ipartiedwithhopgood said:
They can't afford to have 3 coaches on the payroll they gotta wait until the previous guy's buyout is up.
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This statement makes me LOL. FARRRRRR that sonofabeyitch!!!!

It's actually quite pathetic. Aren't they already paying Taggart like $15M of buyout, and I read in this thread that Norvell gets $17M if FARRR'd by the end of the season? That's insanity - $32M for coaches that are FARRRR'd and not even coaching. Coaching salaries and especially buyouts for publicly-funded universities is out of control. The real, actual free market would never support this kind of thing.
 
Morgantown Card said:
This statement makes me LOL. FARRRRRR that sonofabeyitch!!!!

It's actually quite pathetic. Aren't they already paying Taggart like $15M of buyout, and I read in this thread that Norvell gets $17M if FARRR'd by the end of the season? That's insanity - $32M for coaches that are FARRRR'd and not even coaching. Coaching salaries and especially buyouts for publicly-funded universities is out of control. The real, actual free market would never support this kind of thing.
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Some schools will actually pay an incoming coach’s buyout but I don’t know if Florida Atlantic did that for Taggart.
 
I have a funny feeling abut this game for many of the reasons already stated in this thread.

My questions are as follows:

Which FSU team will show up? The ND game version or JState?

Which Cardinal team will come to play the Ole Miss version or the UCF version?

Who will win the TO battle? TofP battle? And will the fans have any impact for FSU?

Will the heat bother the Cards? Will cramps hit the team and especially Malik? And affect their play more than it should? Young players...who knows how they will respond?

Will Monty's health keep him from the game and if so how much will that impact the 'D'? Who steps up in his position if he can't play.

Will the emotional win bare good fruit or will the 1st Q bring doldrums and malaise to the 'D' and the 'O' especially.

All that being said....I have few answers....but much Faith in the team that they will find a way to overcome all adversity and WIN the game in a nail biter. Could even go down to the last play of the game again. Prediction: 38-35 Cards win.
 
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I think fans could feel this way for most opponents we play. There's always some tripudation, doubt, and endless worry of how we could lose.

So far the season seems rather understandable so far. We were not ready for a top 20 team right out the gate away from home. Ole Miss looks damn good right now. Then the game against EKU was likely a combination of vanilla play calling so to work on the OL running game and the lack of excitement against a FCS team.

In game three, the Cards had multiple motivations to play great. At home against a team favored by a TD had the team feeling disrespected. UCF wasn't prepared for the play calling exampled by the trick play that was perfect. The Friday night lights on ESPN had the guys ready to play.

It would take a very good team to beat the Cards and UCF almost did. The lucky break with the pick six after playing such a strong game should have the team raring to go against a FSU team they blew out last season.

The Seminoles on the other hand are having all kinds of troubles. The loss to Jacksonville State is the kind of loss that ruins a season. Getting romped by Wake Forest the following week seems to attest to this. The new coach not working out is what everyone in Tallahassee is thinking. Not good for a tough conference game.

I may eat my words because in sports, anything can happen, but I think Louisville is going to win going away. I can see a 10 to 10 score after a quarter, but a strong 2nd half for the Cards to win by two TD's.
 
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Every time I feel good about our chances we don’t do well and anytime I worry we do well. So my biggest concern is play calling, if we have the play calling we had against Ole Miss we are in trouble if we have the play calling we had against UCF I like our chances,
 
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Young team going to be up and down all year.

Agree with post that said pretty much all opponents provide reasons for concern.
 
I just want to avoid the buzzsaw we ran into in Miami in 2019. Remember, that year Miami was struggling and we went into that game with momentum. Turnovers, penalties, bad tackling…
 
Hard to say what to expect from FSU vs UofL. FSU still has a lot of talent. but can't seem to get it together at all. We have shown remarkable improvement since the Ole Miss opener, but there IS still that reminder of how bad we CAN suck. I think FSU is as desperate for as win as we were going into the UCF game; and a desperate team (and coach) is a dangerous team. I'm expecting a tight close game decided by turnovers and who can capitalize on them. I'll go with Louisville 35, FSU 31.
 
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I'm going with feel good and not ready to come down from the cloud.

24-14 CARDS Win, Cards win!
 
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nccardfan said:
Some schools will actually pay an incoming coach’s buyout but I don’t know if Florida Atlantic did that for Taggart.
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I kind of doubt it, that is more money than FAU has paid in its entire existence for a football coach (OK I don't know if that's true, but it probably is). It doesn't change anything though - that's crazy, true or false.
 
KozmasAgain said:
Every time I feel good about our chances we don’t do well and anytime I worry we do well. So my biggest concern is play calling, if we have the play calling we had against Ole Miss we are in trouble if we have the play calling we had against UCF I like our chances,
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Agree. And hopefully he doesn't take the UCF play-calling to the next level by trying to be too cute with stuff. THe play calling vs UCF was perfect.

Looking ahead - the scoreboard may break during the Wake game. I'm not ready to declare Satterfield ACC COY yet but if the Cards beat the Noles at their place I'm seeing 4-2 with a loss to WF and a win over UVA.
 
Wake Forest isn't some great team. You see who they have played? Cards will have much more trouble beating Virginia than Wake.
 
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