Clemson

[Big_Tasty_Muffin]

I have to say I am very impressed by Clemson. I thought they would have a down year based on the talent they lost last year but I couldn't have be more wrong. Beating Auburn, VT Tech on the road and of course beating us the way they did is a very impressive start to the year. I still think Bama is the team to beat but up to this point if I had a vote I would put them #1 in the polls.

I know it sucks to get beat the way we did a few weeks ago but looking back I don't think think it is a bad loss. That program is just are simply on a different level right now.

 

[CardsFirst]

I have to say I am very impressed by Clemson. I thought they would have a down year based on the talent they lost last year but I couldn't have be more wrong. Beating Auburn, VT Tech on the road and of course beating us the way they did is a very impressive start to the year. I still think Bama is the team to beat but up to this point if I had a vote I would put them #1 in the polls.

I know it sucks to get beat the way we did a few weeks ago but looking back I don't think think it is a bad loss. That program is just are simply on a different level right now.

I think Clemson is the team to beat. The D is crushing and the O is where I thought they would drop. There QB found himself with us and damn if he’s not good

 

[rockycard]

I have to say I am very impressed by Clemson. I thought they would have a down year based on the talent they lost last year but I couldn't have be more wrong. Beating Auburn, VT Tech on the road and of course beating us the way they did is a very impressive start to the year. I still think Bama is the team to beat but up to this point if I had a vote I would put them #1 in the polls.

I know it sucks to get beat the way we did a few weeks ago but looking back I don't think think it is a bad loss. That program is just are simply on a different level right now.

It's Clemson and Bama, then a huge drop off to the next tier.

 

[nccardfan]

Clemson is very methodical. Much like our game, Clemson was able to control the game because of field position. Their defense and kicking game constantly give you bad field position leading them to easy scores when you get desperate. If we were to play them again, I would try to beat them at their own game. The recipe for their defense is that they are able stop the run game with the front seven and pressure the opponent with only 3 pass rushers allowing their DBs and LBs to cover the receivers and wideouts.

 

[tluck28]

They are the best team right now in my opinion.

it's a weird year. A lot of teams are really down. The SEC besides Alabama and maybe Georgia is a joke...FSU is looking mediocre, I'm not sure what Oregon is doing. I wish I could say that means that we see two different teams in the championship but it looks like the Alabama and Clemson show as usual which kinda sucks.

 

[cardinalrod]

Nike gave up on Oregon and started feeding clemson.

 

[TheRealVille]

How Clemson isn't #1 is a joke. They have beaten three ranked teams easily, two on the road. Alabama beat a average FSU team. The Tigers are also the defending champs who beat Alabama in that title game. Yes, I see why the Tide were pre-season #1, but how Clemson is not #1 now like I said is a joke. I know what I would be saying if it was Louisville instead of Clemson. The same old BS. I guess however even Clemson is still considered a new blue blood program when it pertains to Alabama?

 

[KozmasAgain]

Clemson is the best team out there I don't know how Bama is number 1. I would love to see Clemson win it again the thing that impresses me the most about them is their team speed.

 

[topdecktiger]

I don't know how Bama is number 1.

Because they are playing the best football right now.

 

[TheRealVille]

Because they're destroying bad teams? Clemson has played the best football so far.

 

[topdecktiger]

Because they're destroying bad teams? Clemson has played the best football so far.

No they haven't. Clemson can't do what they've been doing against Alabama.

 

[Mayoman]

No they haven't. Clemson can't do what they've been doing against Alabama.

That remains to be seen. As stated above.....Bama has beaten what appears to be a very mediocre FSU and nobody else so far. Clemson has 3 very solid wins....and they rolled the Tide last year.

Defending NC's should be ranked #1 until somebody beats them. Gotta forget all that SEC bias.

 

[Cue Card]

No they haven't. Clemson can't do what they've been doing against Alabama.

They said the same thing last year too.

How did the season end for Alabama again? I can't recall.

 

[topdecktiger]

That remains to be seen. As stated above.....Bama has beaten what appears to be a very mediocre FSU and nobody else so far. Clemson has 3 very solid wins....and they rolled the Tide last year.

Defending NC's should be ranked #1 until somebody beats them. Gotta forget all that SEC bias.

That's never been the case, even back in the old AP/UPI days. Rarely would the defending champ start ranked #1, unless it was some dynasty like Notre Dame, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.

They said the same thing last year too.

How did the season end for Alabama again? I can't recall.

Clemson ran for a total of 91 yards last year. Deshaun Watson threw the ball 56 times. Clemson isn't running for 250 yards on Alabama, not happening. Their offensive line simply isn't good enough to do that. If Kelly Bryant can make throws on a consistent basis, then sure, but they can't use this current game plan.

 

[Cue Card]

That's never been the case, even back in the old AP/UPI days. Rarely would the defending champ start ranked #1, unless it was some dynasty like Notre Dame, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.



Clemson ran for a total of 91 yards last year. Deshaun Watson threw the ball 56 times. Clemson isn't running for 250 yards on Alabama, not happening. Their offensive line simply isn't good enough to do that. If Kelly Bryant can make throws on a consistent basis, then sure, but they can't use this current game plan.

Um, OK. If things don't change then it looks like we all might get to find out (again) first hand. Thing is, Alabama has a tougher road to travel than Clemson has left now. Well that's IF you believe the hype about SEC football.

 

[topdecktiger]

Um, OK. If things don't change then it looks like we all might get to find out (again) first hand. Thing is, Alabama has a tougher road to travel than Clemson has left now. Well that's IF you believe the hype about SEC football.

There's no, "um ok" about it. Clemson simply can't line up and run the ball straight at Alabama. That was proven last year. Clemson ran 42 times for 91 yards on Alabama. That's an average of 2.2 yards. Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson completed 36 pass for 420 yards. It crystal clear how Clemson beat Alabama last year: throwing the ball and making plays in space. That's what it's going to take this year as well.

 

[Cue Card]

There's no, "um ok" about it. Clemson simply can't line up and run the ball straight at Alabama. That was proven last year. Clemson ran 42 times for 91 yards on Alabama. That's an average of 2.2 yards. Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson completed 36 pass for 420 yards. It crystal clear how Clemson beat Alabama last year: throwing the ball and making plays in space. That's what it's going to take this year as well.

Um, OK. LOL. Hopefully we'll get to find out. What happened last year happened last year. The only reason I brought it up was because last year nobody gave Clemson a chance in hell to beat the mighty Tide, then it happened. Keep singing the same song. It might just end up having the same ending. Again.

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

Bama is better than Clemson.

 

[topdecktiger]

Um, OK. LOL. Hopefully we'll get to find out. What happened last year happened last year. The only reason I brought it up was because last year nobody gave Clemson a chance in hell to beat the mighty Tide, then it happened. Keep singing the same song. It might just end up having the same ending. Again.

And it happened a specific way. Last year, Clemson would have gotten killed if they tried to line up and run straight at Alabama.

And, I don't know why you are saying things like, "Keep singing the same song." I definitely want Clemson to win it all again. I'm just telling you that nobody, including Clemson, can beat Alabama just by lining up and running straight at them. You tell me how you can win a game running straight ahead when your offensive line isn't opening up holes. Explain that to me.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Can Bama run straight at Clemson?

 

[Cue Card]

Can Bama run straight at Clemson?

Exactly. I'm not saying Clemson can run on Alabama. IDK is all I'm saying, but that's only half of the equation. Can Alabama run straight at Clemson? IDK the answer to that either. Assuming anything is foolish just like last year showed us. I'm not assuming anything.

 

[topdecktiger]

Can Bama run straight at Clemson?

Yes. Last year, Alabama ran 34 for 221 yards on Clemson, for 6.5 yards per carry.

 

[Cue Card]

Yes. Last year, Alabama ran 34 for 221 yards on Clemson, for 6.5 yards per carry.

And still lost the game. That's important to note.

 

[topdecktiger]

And still lost the game. That's important to note.

Yes, because Deshaun Watson threw for 402 yards. This issue is whether Kelly Bryant can do that. Right now, Clemson isn't doing that. They are primarily running the ball.

 

[Cue Card]

Yes, because Deshaun Watson threw for 402 yards. This issue is whether Kelly Bryant can do that. Right now, Clemson isn't doing that. They are primarily running the ball.

Clemson has shown a great deal of offensive balance. They are averaging 228 yards through the air, and 247 yards on the ground so far.

Alabama - Not so much. The Tide are averaging 193 through the air, and 316 on the ground. They're a bit more 1 demensional IMO.

 

[topdecktiger]

Clemson has shown a great deal of offensive balance. They are averaging 228 yards through the air, and 247 yards on the ground so far.

Alabama - Not so much. The Tide are averaging 193 through the air, and 316 on the ground. They're a bit more 1 demensional IMO.

Right, and the problem is, Clemson can't run for 247 yards on Alabama. They have to make that up somewhere. Last year, Clemson averaged 334 yards per game passing. This year, they are averaging 228. That's over 100 yards less than last year. Clemson is going to have to have the ability to win through the air, and not rely on rushing, when/if they play Alabama. Hopefully, Kelly Bryant will be able to do that. However, he HAS to do that for Clemson to win. He can't beat Alabama with his legs. He will have to beat them with his arm, just like Deshaun Watson did.

 

[Cue Card]

Kelly Bryant will be able to do that. However, he HAS to do that for Clemson to win. He can't beat Alabama with his legs. He will have to beat them with his arm, just like Deshaun Watson did.

I think he's doing just fine. The kid is a stud. He played behind Watson, and while he's not Watson, he does have a great deal of talent. I think Clemson has been the best team in college football this year, and at least one site agrees with me.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...l-rankings-clemson-edges-alabama-as-new-no-1/

 

[Mayoman]

That's never been the case, even back in the old AP/UPI days. Rarely would the defending champ start ranked #1, unless it was some dynasty like Notre Dame, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.





Mayoman:
IMO, Clemson is a modern day dynasty now. & based on their performance to date, deserves to be ranked #1.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Yes. Last year

Last year.

A lot better front 7 this year.

And the last I heard, the team that's scores the most points wins.

Not the one with the most yards rushing.

 

[thmccl11]

Yes. Last year, Alabama ran 34 for 221 yards on Clemson, for 6.5 yards per carry.

So Alabama who lost their top OL will still be able to run on clemson even though they went 2-15 on 3rd downs, got doubled up 1st downs and outgained by over 150yds. If it was so easy for Bama to run on us they wouldn't have went 2-15 on 3rd downs. A lot of those runs where chunk plays. Also you have to take into consideration what Bama lost on defense.

Most teams play clemson to stop the big play pass which causes us to run the ball. Bama plays to stop the run no matter who they play which will open up passing lanes. Bryant while not Watson has shown he can make the throws when needed.

Don't know who would win between clemson and Bama but your selling clemson short just by using the rushing numbers last year as a argument.

By the way came here to say good luck against NC State tonight

 

[treetiger]

Bryant is far from hitting his ceiling. Although he regressed some against BC and VT, I believe he will continue to get better. Clemson needs to get some of their young but very talented receivers contributing. Right now Cain can't get open downfield, and it seems Renfrow is making the majority of big catches. Good defenses are scheming against Bryant's inability to establish a consistent passing game. If he doesn't taking his and Clemson's passing game to the next level, Alabama would hammer Clemson. And I hate to say that as a Clemson fan. Alabama could possibly beat several of the lowest tier teams in the NFL on a good night. They are a freaking machine, destroying the fabric of the SEC in the process.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Not burying Clemson yet but probably time to cool the jets on their greatness.

 

[Kybluedude]

Clemson is the best team out there I don't know how Bama is number 1. I would love to see Clemson win it again the thing that impresses me the most about them is their team speed.

Negative

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

Clemson took Syracuse too lightly. I watched that game, and Clemson was not ready to play.

 

[topdecktiger]

I think he's doing just fine. The kid is a stud. He played behind Watson, and while he's not Watson, he does have a great deal of talent. I think Clemson has been the best team in college football this year, and at least one site agrees with me.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...l-rankings-clemson-edges-alabama-as-new-no-1/

Last year.

A lot better front 7 this year.

And the last I heard, the team that's scores the most points wins.

Not the one with the most yards rushing.

So Alabama who lost their top OL will still be able to run on clemson even though they went 2-15 on 3rd downs, got doubled up 1st downs and outgained by over 150yds. If it was so easy for Bama to run on us they wouldn't have went 2-15 on 3rd downs. A lot of those runs where chunk plays. Also you have to take into consideration what Bama lost on defense.

Most teams play clemson to stop the big play pass which causes us to run the ball. Bama plays to stop the run no matter who they play which will open up passing lanes. Bryant while not Watson has shown he can make the throws when needed.

Don't know who would win between clemson and Bama but your selling clemson short just by using the rushing numbers last year as a argument.

By the way came here to say good luck against NC State tonight

Friday's game illustrated my point. Even before Kelly Bryant got hurt, Clemson was losing to Syracuse (and would have been losing worse had it not been for the fumble return). Syracuse shut down the run, and Clemson couldn't compensate with the passing game.

That's been my whole point all along.

Then on the flip side, the defense laid an egg, and couldn't bail out the offense. If Clemson played Alabama this year, they wouldn't have any more success passing than they did against Syracuse. Then the other problem is, you can't depend on the defense shutting down Alabama.

The bottom line is, the key element that beat Alabama last year (the passing game) is not there this year.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Friday's game illustrated my point. Even before Kelly Bryant got hurt, Clemson was losing to Syracuse (and would have been losing worse had it not been for the fumble return). Syracuse shut down the run, and Clemson couldn't compensate with the passing game.

That's been my whole point all along.

Then on the flip side, the defense laid an egg, and couldn't bail out the offense. If Clemson played Alabama this year, they wouldn't have any more success passing than they did against Syracuse. Then the other problem is, you can't depend on the defense shutting down Alabama.

The bottom line is, the key element that beat Alabama last year (the passing game) is not there this year.

Lot of water gone under since this thread.

Lot of eyes opened.

We're in deep doo and have problems of our own.

Can't be worried about Clemson.

You're on your own...