Clemson loses and makes ACC title game

[TheRealVille]

Clemson has got to be one of the most unworthy teams to play in a conference championship.

They lose today in a non conference game, their second home loss, but with Miami losing to Syracuse, the dipshit Dabos will face SMU for a spot in the playoff.

Clemson didn't play SMU, Miami, Syracuse, Georgia Tech or Duke. Look at the current ACC standings and you will notice that the bottom seven teams all played and lost to Clemson.

They played one good team and was blown out at home. Louisville. Yet, if they beat SMU, they will be in the playoff. It's a travesty.

So if the Cards had beaten Stanford, they still wouldn't have made the playoff.

But here's Clemson, beaten at home by their rival and they're celebrating a conference title game. Clemson is the antithesis of Louisville and it pisses me off.

 

[beantowncard]

Clemson has got to be one of the most unworthy teams to play in a conference championship.

They lose today in a non conference game, their second home loss, but with Miami losing to Syracuse, the dipshit Dabos will face SMU for a spot in the playoff.

Clemson didn't play SMU, Miami, Syracuse, Georgia Tech or Duke. Look at the current ACC standings and you will notice that the bottom seven teams all played and lost to Clemson.

They played one good team and was blown out at home. Louisville. Yet, if they beat SMU, they will be in the playoff. It's a travesty.

So if the Cards had beaten Stanford, they still wouldn't have made the playoff.

But here's Clemson, beaten at home by their rival and they're celebrating a conference title game. Clemson is the antithesis of Louisville and it pisses me off.

I was hoping for two ACC teams to make the CFP. Looks like only the champ will make it. If only Miami could play a little defense. I feel bad for Cam Ward. The guy carried that team all year and won’t get a sniff of the Heisman.

 

[CardHack]

We had two losses in league without the Stanford loss, Clemson only lost once. We had to have them lose to Pitt which Pitt couldn't even get that right. Had it happened...it would have been us and frankly we're playing better football in the league than anyone but SMU.

 

[CardsFirst]

Clemson has got to be one of the most unworthy teams to play in a conference championship.

They lose today in a non conference game, their second home loss, but with Miami losing to Syracuse, the dipshit Dabos will face SMU for a spot in the playoff.

Clemson didn't play SMU, Miami, Syracuse, Georgia Tech or Duke. Look at the current ACC standings and you will notice that the bottom seven teams all played and lost to Clemson.

They played one good team and was blown out at home. Louisville. Yet, if they beat SMU, they will be in the playoff. It's a travesty.

So if the Cards had beaten Stanford, they still wouldn't have made the playoff.

But here's Clemson, beaten at home by their rival and they're celebrating a conference title game. Clemson is the antithesis of Louisville and it pisses me off.

Don’t think they’ll beat SMU. My opinion is they’ll get their butts kicked like when they played us. That will kill their chances of making the playoffs.

 

[CardsFirst]

I was hoping for two ACC teams to make the CFP. Looks like only the champ will make it. If only Miami could play a little defense. I feel bad for Cam Ward. The guy carried that team all year and won’t get a sniff of the Heisman.

A Miami fan sitting in front of me in L&N Stadium said their D was suspect and that it would catch up with them……and it did today. He said if Miami made the playoff the would get exposed.

 

[Mayoman]

Clemson has got to be one of the most unworthy teams to play in a conference championship.

They lose today in a non conference game, their second home loss, but with Miami losing to Syracuse, the dipshit Dabos will face SMU for a spot in the playoff.

Clemson didn't play SMU, Miami, Syracuse, Georgia Tech or Duke. Look at the current ACC standings and you will notice that the bottom seven teams all played and lost to Clemson.

They played one good team and was blown out at home. Louisville. Yet, if they beat SMU, they will be in the playoff. It's a travesty.

So if the Cards had beaten Stanford, they still wouldn't have made the playoff.

But here's Clemson, beaten at home by their rival and they're celebrating a conference title game. Clemson is the antithesis of Louisville and it pisses me off.

IMHO...all the P4$ leagues need to go back to divisions...have their ship game....and winner goes (proven best team) and then the next best (either the runner up) and or a higher ranked peer gets the invite...And most important, No and I mean no conference, gets more than two invites, period. Across the board. If that means more than a 12 team CFP, then expand to 16 and no one can get more than 3 invites, period.

Do away with this media bias, ESPN propaganda and decide it on the field of play across the board. The 5 or 6 SEC teams and BIG 4-5-6 teams are never ending self fulfilling prophecies propped up by the media because, because, because they are just better...we say so in our preseason rankings ever year regardless of merit. I call BS with capital letter BS.

Lets level the playing field with more inclusion ot the P4 and G5 and see what happens on the field and not the 'set in stone preseason', ever season ratings' of the so called who's who of CFB. IF you expanded your league to big to soon and did away with divisions then that is your own damn fault. Get back to regions and not vast expansion you greedy bastids.

Make me the Czar and that is what I would do. Would be more upsets for the little guys and the big guys would not like that upset of the ole apple cart. Would be far more national interest nee the regional South and Midwest that currently exists now and for the last 10-20 years.



Rant over.

 

[Rollem Cards]

IMHO...all the P4$ leagues need to go back to divisions...have their ship game....and winner goes (proven best team) and then the next best (either the runner up) and or a higher ranked peer gets the invite...And most important, No and I mean no conference, gets more than two invites, period. Across the board. If that means more than a 12 team CFP, then expand to 16 and no one can get more than 3 invites, period.

Do away with this media bias, ESPN propaganda and decide it on the field of play across the board. The 5 or 6 SEC teams and BIG 4-5-6 teams are never ending self fulfilling prophecies propped up by the media because, because, because they are just better...we say so in our preseason rankings ever year regardless of merit. I call BS with capital letter BS.

Lets level the playing field with more inclusion ot the P4 and G5 and see what happens on the field and not the 'set in stone preseason', ever season ratings' of the so called who's who of CFB. IF you expanded your league to big to soon and did away with divisions then that is your own damn fault. Get back to regions and not vast expansion you greedy bastids.

Make me the Czar and that is what I would do. Would be more upsets for the little guys and the big guys would not like that upset of the ole apple cart. Would be far more national interest nee the regional South and Midwest that currently exists now and for the last 10-20 years.



Rant over.

You don’t think they’ll do anything that might get one of the anointed few beat do you?

This season has proven that a LOT of teams can beat anybody on a given day.

Can you imagine the turmoil if a WKU, Marshall, or App State, etc were to beat Penn St or UGA etc?

And we can’t say it can’t happen.

WE were the WKU when we beat Bama in the Fiesta.

The blue bloods aren’t guaranteed a win anymore.

Ask Saban…😉

 

[2330859]

Agree 100% Mayoman!

If the ACC fails to make some changes quickly, the league will fall further behind the SEC and the BIG.

Ironically, I believe overall, the ACC may be the best it’s ever been. 13 teams eligible for Bowl games and Duke, BC, GT, Syracuse and Pitt were quite formidable most all of this season. SMU is the best, and I expect that UL, Miami and even Clemson are deserving of consideration to a major Bowl matchup before its over.

 

[Knucklehank1]

IMHO...all the P4$ leagues need to go back to divisions...have their ship game....and winner goes (proven best team) and then the next best (either the runner up) and or a higher ranked peer gets the invite...And most important, No and I mean no conference, gets more than two invites, period. Across the board. If that means more than a 12 team CFP, then expand to 16 and no one can get more than 3 invites, period.

Do away with this media bias, ESPN propaganda and decide it on the field of play across the board. The 5 or 6 SEC teams and BIG 4-5-6 teams are never ending self fulfilling prophecies propped up by the media because, because, because they are just better...we say so in our preseason rankings ever year regardless of merit. I call BS with capital letter BS.

Lets level the playing field with more inclusion ot the P4 and G5 and see what happens on the field and not the 'set in stone preseason', ever season ratings' of the so called who's who of CFB. IF you expanded your league to big to soon and did away with divisions then that is your own damn fault. Get back to regions and not vast expansion you greedy bastids.

Make me the Czar and that is what I would do. Would be more upsets for the little guys and the big guys would not like that upset of the ole apple cart. Would be far more national interest nee the regional South and Midwest that currently exists now and for the last 10-20 years.



Rant over.

Unfortunately the SEC and Big 10 draw the most eyeballs for their games which translates into the most money for the TV networks which translates into more money (and power) for the conference which translates into network honks further pumping their valuable commodity. The supposed governing body - the NCAA - is impotent. Long story short, while what you propose makes sense, it ain’t gonna happen.

 

[Mayoman]

Unfortunately the SEC and Big 10 draw the most eyeballs for their games which translates into the most money for the TV networks which translates into more money (and power) for the conference which translates into network honks further pumping their valuable commodity. The supposed governing body - the NCAA - is impotent. Long story short, while what you propose makes sense, it ain’t gonna happen.

They do draw the most for now...but how much of the rest of the nation tunes out for lack of one of their teams to pull for? Who knows that figure? Besides, it is tiring seeing the same ole same ole teams get all the opportunities...of course they will have more teams get in and likely advance...how could they not? Which solidifies their recruiting. etc, etc, Teams that are excluded can never win if they don't get in. And then the self fullfiling fantasy never ends and since it is not fully challenged it will never end.

The NFL has reached its zenith because of the playoff inclusion and not exclusion. The more parity and chances of teams to make the playoffs has taken them to their greatest heights of popularity and $$$ for the league and teams...do you agree with that?

If college would follow that model more closely...would not the same $$$ results follow? Am I making any sense with that train of thought? It would also help if ESPN's and Fox's $$$ to the leagues was more equitable too. I know that is a pipe dream right now too. A disruptiion needs to happen for these changes to take place. What should that be?

 

[Rollem Cards]

The B1G and the sez WILL be in the PO to collect all those eyeballs.

All they have to do is win, and STAY in it.

Simple.

Personally, I’m not the least bit interested in another Bama-UGA-Tenn game.

 

[Knucklehank1]

They do draw the most for now...but how much of the rest of the nation tunes out for lack of one of their teams to pull for? Who knows that figure? Besides, it is tiring seeing the same ole same ole teams get all the opportunities...of course they will have more teams get in and likely advance...how could they not? Which solidifies their recruiting. etc, etc, Teams that are excluded can never win if they don't get in. And then the self fullfiling fantasy never ends and since it is not fully challenged it will never end.

The NFL has reached its zenith because of the playoff inclusion and not exclusion. The more parity and chances of teams to make the playoffs has taken them to their greatest heights of popularity and $$$ for the league and teams...do you agree with that?

If college would follow that model more closely...would not the same $$$ results follow? Am I making any sense with that train of thought? It would also help if ESPN's and Fox's $$$ to the leagues was more equitable too. I know that is a pipe dream right now too. A disruptiion needs to happen for these changes to take place. What should that be?

College football tv ratings have been outstanding this season and I think some of is due to the 12 team playoff and the notion that more teams have a shot. That being said in college football the tail wags the dog. The SEC and Big 10 commissioners are the most powerful people in the sport. They are calling the shots.

One thing to add - the ACC schools have nowhere the level of interest in the product that the other 3 major conferences do. I go to every home game and many road games. There are three ACC programs that consistently send fans to road games - Clemson, FSU and Louisville. The visiting fan section at the stadium this year was laughable for every game. Watch an average SEC or Big 10 or even Big 12 game and see how many fans the visiting team brings.

 

[CommodoreCard]

Visiting crowds from the ACC are no different than they were in the Big East. Other than Clemson and FSU. Miami was decent this year because they were ranked. Pitt was terrible, even the Tobacco Road schools are terrible. $EC and Big/Pac 10+8 schools bring large crowds and take their bands and cheerleaders to every away game. Georgia Tech didn’t even bring cheerleaders this year.

 

[glassmanJ]

.And most important, No and I mean no conference, gets more than two invites, period.

so that means you'd put sh$tty much lower ranked teams in because you can only have two from a conference, thus watering down the playoff and putting crappier teams in because you can have more than two, sorry but just dumb. the best teams play, simple as that, regardless of conference. there's no acc team except smu that deserves a shot but miami will get in. all top sec teams are better than top acc teams. so why should sec bve restricted to put a crappy acc team in? and btw, just shows again how much jb choked this year agaisnt weak opponents, we could have easily been in the title game but choked against smu and stanford. expect mroe of the same next year, beat the good teams lose to the bad ones.

 

[2330859]

I doubt there will ever be the perfect selection process, but honestly the theory of multiple representatives from the same conference is hard to support when they fail to distinguish themselves outside their own conference. UGA for example is playing for the SEC championship, but it took 8 OTs to beat an unranked ACC GT team.

Take the top 4 teams from each P4 or P5 conferences and match against each other; see how that goes. Texas, UGA, Alabama and Tennessee for instance could match up against SMU, Miami, Syracuse and Louisville. Lot more exciting than reruns in inter-conference games.

Otherwise it leaves speculation as to who is the best.