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Jeff is doing good work at WKU but the odds of him eventually ending up at uselessakay are slim and none as the cayuts have shown adverse feelings and opinions about bringing in anyone that has a UofL pedigree or past (i.e. H.Schnellenberger). They are usually very stupid and have shown this tendency many times in the past. That's a good thing for UofL in my opinion.
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Honestly, Jeff is way too smart and way to good to accept a demotion at U ah K. Great place for older coaches to go to end their careers ( as in Brooks). Not worth the risk for a good coach that has a future.
Why would anyone want to go there and coach football, the only ones who have been successful there were cheating. Going there could be the end of a career instead of enhancing a career.
No chance a good FBS HEAD coach goes to LPT. Too big a risk.
If I'm doing the math right, looks like Jeff earned just shy of a million this year. And I expect WKU to give him a pretty nice bump if they stand any chance of retaining him.
Terms of Compensation
If I'm doing the math right, looks like Jeff earned just shy of a million this year. And I expect WKU to give him a pretty nice bump if they stand any chance of retaining him.
Terms of Compensation
I'd say if Jeff can have another successful season next year without Brandon Doughty, he will have a lot attractive (that excludes UK) FBS offers coming his way that he might not be able to turn down.
Assistant head coach and offensive coordinator Jeff Brohm was introduced Friday as WKU's new football coach. While his contract has yet to be approved - it will be presented to the WKU Board of Regents on Jan. 24 for approval - many of the terms and conditions have already been agreed upon.
- The contract extends four years, from Jan. 10, 2014 to Dec. 31, 2017, with a fifth-year option.
- Brohm's annual base salary will be $600,000.
- Brohm's contract buyout will start at a larger figure than that of former coach Bobby Petrino (who owed WKU $1.2 million when he left for Louisville), but it decreases in cost every year. If the contract is terminated before March 1, 2015, WKU is owed $1.5 million. If it is terminated before Feb. 28, 2016, WKU is owed $1.2 million. If the contract is broken before Febr. 28, 2017, WKU will be paid $900,000, and if it's terminated on or after March 1, 2017, WKU is owed $600,000.
Brohm also has several annual incentives that will allow him to earn extra money over the course of the contract.
- A BCS Bowl berth or College Football Playoff appearance will give Brohm $100,000.
- A winning percentage greater than .500 is worth $50,000.
- A win in a bowl game is worth $50,000.
- A Conference USA title is worth $50,000.
- An Academic Progress Rate of 950 is worth $50,000.
- An Academic Progress Rate of 970 is also worth $50,000.
- Public season ticket sales in excess of 12,000 a year will earn Brohm $25,000.
- A Conference USA Coach of the Year award is worth $25,000.
All you have to do to know to wonder if JB would go to uk is to look at uk's past HC seach's.
No YOUNG HC's (or old HC's for that matter) with ANY kind of decent resume have applied. It's a graveyard, and has been for 60 years.
Period.
Just "has beens", "never was's", or lifetime assistants (destined to be "never was's") are all that apply.
And more importantly, since The Bear....name a former uk HC who was fired or left, uk and EVER was a successful HC at a big time College job again......(insert Jeopardy Theme here)
Only one ever got hired at a "football school". Guy Morris-Baylor-went 18-40
tick...tick....
There's your answer. It's a G R A V E Y A R D.
No YOUNG HC's (or old HC's for that matter) with ANY kind of decent resume have applied. It's a graveyard, and has been for 60 years.
Period.
Just "has beens", "never was's", or lifetime assistants (destined to be "never was's") are all that apply.
And more importantly, since The Bear....name a former uk HC who was fired or left, uk and EVER was a successful HC at a big time College job again......(insert Jeopardy Theme here)
Only one ever got hired at a "football school". Guy Morris-Baylor-went 18-40
tick...tick....
There's your answer. It's a G R A V E Y A R D.
Yep. Might as well go ahead and check in at Cave Hill. And just imagine, this uakay job is an $ec . . . oh wait, not really.
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He needs to sit back and be patient.....the ideal coaching job will come to him. I don't want him to jump at money. Some places just aren't worth the humiliation. Why ruin your good name. Patience my dear, patience.
Nice read on Brohm from SI. He seems cut from a different cloth than most coaches.
http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/12/21/jeff-brohm-western-kentucky-wins-miami-beach-bowl-usf
http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/12/21/jeff-brohm-western-kentucky-wins-miami-beach-bowl-usf
Thanks CardX.....that was a really nice read. Admiration for Brohm just went ^UP!
Many of our veteran posters feel that CJB would never go to KY.....all I can say about that is what is one man's graveyard is the start of another one's life......leaves or most beautiful just before they die...and what attracts one man may repulse another......and until UK offers and CJB declines.....no one knows what he will do or not do.
Considering his past history and true red lineage.....many hope he would not ever even consider it....but last I looked, Louisville is still in the state of KY......and opportunities to coach in that SEC league for a Kentuckian could be enough to entice him to prove he is the best coach in his chosen profession. It is not always about the money either.
And face it....only the great Bear Bryant has been able to do that at KY.....and that might just be the challenge that stokes the flames of his passion to be the best ever......or maybe not. Until CJB states he is not interested or no to an offer made....than we all can just sit here and speculate.
I hope that he returns to his home with the Cardinals at some time in the distant future when CBP retires or departs.....but that is just me.
Many of our veteran posters feel that CJB would never go to KY.....all I can say about that is what is one man's graveyard is the start of another one's life......leaves or most beautiful just before they die...and what attracts one man may repulse another......and until UK offers and CJB declines.....no one knows what he will do or not do.
Considering his past history and true red lineage.....many hope he would not ever even consider it....but last I looked, Louisville is still in the state of KY......and opportunities to coach in that SEC league for a Kentuckian could be enough to entice him to prove he is the best coach in his chosen profession. It is not always about the money either.
And face it....only the great Bear Bryant has been able to do that at KY.....and that might just be the challenge that stokes the flames of his passion to be the best ever......or maybe not. Until CJB states he is not interested or no to an offer made....than we all can just sit here and speculate.
I hope that he returns to his home with the Cardinals at some time in the distant future when CBP retires or departs.....but that is just me.
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Rather or not he would take a job at UK I don't know, but UK would be fools not to go after him. Even if paying him over a million to be OC.
I agree Zipp. He has the chance to pick the job he wants to take. I think he could be successful at UK, per their standards. He can for sure get them to a bowl game, he could have got this year UK team to a bowl game IMO.
I'm hoping that Brohm will take Petrino place when he retires or some team pays TJ a hefty buyout.
I really like Brohm as coach, if he comes close to the record he had this year with a new QB, he'll def be gone pretty quickly.
I really like Brohm as coach, if he comes close to the record he had this year with a new QB, he'll def be gone pretty quickly.
LPT will only attract for a coordinator job and for a reasonable amount of money, a good position coach who wants to move up.
They could also attract a washed up coordinator who has few if any options for a similar position elsewhere. If they want to hire a good coordinator who's already holding that job, they'll have to pay up $$$. Esp. since Stoops is a lame duck or close.
Brohm ain't a candidate for any LPT job except the head one, and that's potentially suicide. Unless they're someday paying him close to $3 million, I'd wait for a better opportunity...
They could also attract a washed up coordinator who has few if any options for a similar position elsewhere. If they want to hire a good coordinator who's already holding that job, they'll have to pay up $$$. Esp. since Stoops is a lame duck or close.
Brohm ain't a candidate for any LPT job except the head one, and that's potentially suicide. Unless they're someday paying him close to $3 million, I'd wait for a better opportunity...
Stoops has a huge buyout, so Barney will support him through year five (at least). If Brohm has another strong year, he will get better offers than Kentucky long before Kentucky comes open. That said, he is cut from a different cloth, and it would not surprise me to see him stay at WKU for a long time. He doesn't even have an agent, and won't interview while his team is still playing. What a great guy!
CFBM I'm betting a dime to a green ass fly (or my sweet bippie) that uselessakay fans have started this crappola with their warped sense of arrogance and superiority. As it stands, WKU is a much better job than uahkay. Yes, money and security is always a consideration but to have to "answer" to any fanbase that would sell you out in a New York second should cool your heels.
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Totally agree......he doesn't have an agent for now.......continued high success at WKU could change that in the very near future.....when and if CJB keeps winning at records setting #'s at WKU, then that is a game changer for his career and desirability with P5 schools that want a proven winner as HC. Every HC gets his start somewhere.....often at a lower level or division of school before moving on up.
I wonder if even he thought WKU would have the season that they just completed. His cred is going up and only he knows how far he wants to go in this profession in the college ranks. WKU going 12-0 or 11-1 next year......and then what happens? Time will tell.
True enough......Yet it was Brohm calling the plays for the last 2 years.
When was the last time you saw 5 trick plays called in the same game?.....and if memory serves me......they all worked.Man had some stones to do that. And regardless of who recruited them.....CJB and his staff coached them to two highly successful seasons and bowl wins. Props for that.
Yeah, I'd stay at WKU before going on to Memphuss. That job is just a 1/2 step above uahkay.
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Wasn't suggesting he go, but maybe they are finally realizing you have to invest in football to have success in football. Seems like a simple concept but not everybody gets it. I'd really hate to see a Card in Memphis State blue - or ant blue, for that matter.
WKU is looking at giving Brohm a raise that will increase his pay by roughly 200K. So for all that work he has done, he will make roughly about 1 million dollars next year. I think he stays on through 2016 and if Stoops doesn't make any significant progress, UK would be crazy not come after Brohm. They are paying Stoops 3.2 Million a year plus bonuses. If Brohm came to UK and signed a 3 year deal and didn't succeed he could always go somewhere else with close to 10 million in his pocket. That's ten years at WKU. Whether you hate UK or not or think it's a grave yard......MONEY talks and coaches will play and gamble for the big bucks even if it's not the best situation. HOWEVER.......If Brohm is given the same offer by a more successful program then he would be crazy to go to UK. I just don't see that many universities investing 3 to 3.5 million dollars in a coach that (like some of you said) is riding the recruiting success of his predecessors.
I think we would be lucky to have Brohm and hope that the university looks at him in the future if Stoops doesn't turn things around.
I think we would be lucky to have Brohm and hope that the university looks at him in the future if Stoops doesn't turn things around.
Jeff ain't no slapdick. Never was, never will be. Here are some possibilities:
Arkansas, if Bielema doesn't pick it up
Washington State, Leach isn't getting it done
LSU, Miles really needs to win big now
Kansas State, if the post Snyder regime fails
Louisville, if Bobby gets a wandering eye again
Arkansas, if Bielema doesn't pick it up
Washington State, Leach isn't getting it done
LSU, Miles really needs to win big now
Kansas State, if the post Snyder regime fails
Louisville, if Bobby gets a wandering eye again
You could have stopped right there. However, NO WAY Brohm goes to UaK. If he keeps this up he will have his pick of better jobs. Maybe not better in terms of money, but better in terms of being competitive and offering a future as a HC. The last former UaK HC anyone ever heard from again was Bear Bryant.
Oh really? Conf. COTY not count? I swear some of our fans.....it's like some if you just make ish up
You could have stopped right there. However, NO WAY Brohm goes to UaK. If he keeps this up he will have his pick of better jobs. Maybe not better in terms of money, but better in terms of being competitive and offering a future as a HC. The last former UaK HC anyone ever heard from again was Bear Bryant.[/QUOTE]
Blanton Collier did pretty well with the Cleveland Browns after he was fired in 1961 by UK. His overall record was 41-36-3 and in conference was 21-34-3. His tenure was from 1954 to 1961...in 1954 he was SEC COY. He led KY to 5-2 IC and 7-3 overall that year, good for a tie for 3rd place but no bowl game..
Noteworthy assistants: Don Shula, Chuck Knox, Bill Arnsbarger and Howard Schnellenberger...yea, not much in those assistants names. He had a terrible staff.
CBC had 2 AA's during his time....Lou Michaels and Howard S. His first 3 years were his best teams record wise then his recruiting dipped and finally he was canned after 4-6, 5-4-1, and 5-5 seasons. Just unable to get over the hump there.
Went to the Browns and was an assistant to Paul Brown, until Browns owner Art Modell fired Paul B. and promoted Collier to head coach. So we did hear a lot about him from Cleveland.....as those were the years that just about every game that was televised in the Louisville area back then featured the Browns.....our closest NFL team at the time. I hated them.....as I was a huge Baltimore Colt fan due to the great one: Johny Unitas and Green Bay Packers fan due to Paul Hornung, the Golden Boy out of Lou Flaget. Solid memories of those times.
CFBM, unless J. Brohm told you he would NEVER go to UK, how can you be so dead solid certain?
Getting the opportunity to make a name in the SEC that surpasses the legendary Bear Bryant could be the dream job for an aspiring coach of the SEC, best league in college FB.....JB might have that dream....or not, but is he on record anywhere saying he would NEVER take the job if offered?
If not....then the uncertainty of the scenario does not support the 'NEVER' theme that you espouse..but he may be holding out for his dream job too....whatever that may be. Certainly, time will tell in due time.
OK, you got me on Collier. However, I never mentioned assistants because every school has assistants that made it somewhere else. I specifically said HC's.
I have already explained my position to you about Brohm. Never.
Would you take that job with other similarly situated openings available? Would you take that job, period? In Brohm's position I certainly would not. You give too much credence to the mighty SEC and not enough to the fact that no one in the last 45 years has been successful as a UaK football coach...without cheating.
I have already explained my position to you about Brohm. Never.
Would you take that job with other similarly situated openings available? Would you take that job, period? In Brohm's position I certainly would not. You give too much credence to the mighty SEC and not enough to the fact that no one in the last 45 years has been successful as a UaK football coach...without cheating.
Yes, the challenge of that job (especially if I was already well known for playing the game both in college and the pros) would appeal to me as a native of the state.....to put them on the national scene as one of the best now.
In order to be the best....you got to play and beat the best. I would be confident that my background and coaching skills in all facets of what it takes to be a great coach would take the program to heights not seen since the days of the great Bear Bryant.
I would want to become a legend in the sport. But that is just the competitive spirit in me....I realize that other folks would rather play it safe and make the smarter choice of a program in the P5 not named KY....and that is OK too.
CJB has a pretty good pedigree by association....not unlike Howard Schnellenberg.....and KY's loss was UofL's gain in that regard. Can they be so stupid twice? Likely so.
And the timing of open positions is a variable that is unpredictable and may or may not have a bearing on a decision as to what his next job may be. Hell, he may want to be a legend at WKU....and he is off to a good start there. They may be enough.
Any P5 offer made....you have to listen...even if it is from an SEC bottom feeder team. Would he consider Vanderbilt? IDK. Miss St? Auburn? Well if they are filled and only UK comes open.....would he listen? IDK.
I am not aware that he has said he would not accept the HC position there. As I said to you once before.....money talks and BS walks. Until CJB is offered and says no or says no he would not take it anyway.....this is all speculation....but fun!
I know you didn't say assistant coaches....but when I researched Blanton Collier....I found it interesting that those guys were on BC's staff.....yet none of them stayed on or were considered when BC got fired......yet another clue about UK's treatment of the FB program back then. Continued incompetency forever it seems.
Yet, it only takes one great hire to make the difference....whoever that may be.
In order to be the best....you got to play and beat the best. I would be confident that my background and coaching skills in all facets of what it takes to be a great coach would take the program to heights not seen since the days of the great Bear Bryant.
I would want to become a legend in the sport. But that is just the competitive spirit in me....I realize that other folks would rather play it safe and make the smarter choice of a program in the P5 not named KY....and that is OK too.
CJB has a pretty good pedigree by association....not unlike Howard Schnellenberg.....and KY's loss was UofL's gain in that regard. Can they be so stupid twice? Likely so.
And the timing of open positions is a variable that is unpredictable and may or may not have a bearing on a decision as to what his next job may be. Hell, he may want to be a legend at WKU....and he is off to a good start there. They may be enough.
Any P5 offer made....you have to listen...even if it is from an SEC bottom feeder team. Would he consider Vanderbilt? IDK. Miss St? Auburn? Well if they are filled and only UK comes open.....would he listen? IDK.
I am not aware that he has said he would not accept the HC position there. As I said to you once before.....money talks and BS walks. Until CJB is offered and says no or says no he would not take it anyway.....this is all speculation....but fun!
I know you didn't say assistant coaches....but when I researched Blanton Collier....I found it interesting that those guys were on BC's staff.....yet none of them stayed on or were considered when BC got fired......yet another clue about UK's treatment of the FB program back then. Continued incompetency forever it seems.
Yet, it only takes one great hire to make the difference....whoever that may be.
That is where you differ from the majority of Louisville fans, myself included. If someone asks me where I am from the word Kentucky never hits my lips. I say Luahvul, just like that. That puzzles some people. To me it is nothing more than coincidence that Louisville is in Kentucky, as far as where I am from. 75% of the state does not claim Louisville as part of the state (only begrudgingly until revenues are involved). It is much like welfare. The rest of the state can fend for themselves. I so wish we could secede from the state. It is like trying to sail with an anchor the size of, well, Kentucky.
That is where we differ. I always say Louis ville, Kentucky.....as we all know there was no king in France by the name of Luah that the city got its name from. The french pronunciation of Louis is Lou ee not Lu ah. No vul, only ville.
That puzzles many natives of Louisville and Kentucky also. But that is just me. I have always been proud of my birthplace and hometown. No place like it in the entire world. And wherever in the world that I have lived or traveled....usually the first question I get back is " Oh, the Kentucky Derby city!". And I smile and say "yes, yes it is".
Not the Louisville Derby.....but the Kentucky Derby. So, although you might not like it, Louisville is and always will be in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Facts are facts, indisputable in this instance. Every thing else just stems from insecurity and pettiness.....which is ones right to be if so inclined.
Mayo you and CFBM are both correct. I rarely say Kentucky but, on occasion I do. We all need to remember what would happen to the Commonwealth of Kentucky WITHOUT Jefferson County financially. In reality, most of "OUR" money heads east to lessington so that "flag$*!t" university can continue to flush it down the proverbial drain. It is the CARDS we've been dealt so we have to play the hand we've been dealt. More often than not we will win and maybe someday we can just call ourselves the State of Louisville.
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