Arizona And LSU Coaches Subpoenaed For Corruption Trial

[shadow force]

Preliminary notifications have been sent out to representatives of both Arizona basketball coach Sean Miller and LSU basketball coach Will Wade that they will be subpoenaed for the April 22 federal basketball corruption trial, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports. These notifications are essentially a courtesy to avoid a public spectacle for the coaches, like getting served in the middle of a game or a practice.

The impending subpoenas mark a potentially dynamic development in the college basketball corruption case. It creates the potential of two high-profile head coaches testifying in federal court about the granular detail of the recruiting underworld – something that never manifested in the initial federal trial last fall. It raises thorny questions for the public universities that employ them, as both the optics of potentially testifying in federal court about basketball recruiting and potential answers that could be given under oath will be a likely cause of consternation for Arizona and LSU administrators.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports...federal-hoops-corruption-trial-180149786.html

 

[cyanide_78]

We will finally find out if that was millers voice on the tape.

 

[KerryRhodes]

LoL

Coach K and Crapiperi continue to whistle past the graveyard.

They along with Saban are untouchable.

 

[Cue Card]

LoL

Coach K and Crapiperi continue to whistle past the graveyard.

They along with Saban are untouchable.

That sure seems to be the case. Maybe one day that arrogance and snide attitude both show will blow back on them. Doubt it, but maybe one day. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.

 

[teamcanada]

LoL

Coach K and Crapiperi continue to whistle past the graveyard.

They along with Saban are untouchable.

Seems like Nike is untouchable so far.

 

[KerryRhodes]

That sure seems to be the case. Maybe one day that arrogance and snide attitude both show will blow back on them. Doubt it, but maybe one day. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.

Yeah.

Im sure most remember the grab bag Corey Magette got. I dont even think the NCAA did an investigation over the jewelry and extra benefits, 6 figure loan he received.

Meanwhile the Cards received what, 1300 dollars in extra benefits and lost everything.
Its just effed up.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Seems like Nike is untouchable so far.

I believe Nike set Adidas up, since many of the middle men or money men were former Nike guys.

Sent those internal detonators so Adidas will go out of business.

Nike is the mob. Boss of all bosses.
And yes i do wear some Nike gear.
They do sell nice gear.

 

[Sultan__of__Swine]

LoL

Coach K and Crapiperi continue to whistle past the graveyard.

They along with Saban are untouchable.

Seems like Nike is untouchable so far.

LSU and Arizona are both Nike schools.

 

[zipp]

We will finally find out if that was millers voice on the tape.

LOL. I'm sure that question is top of the funnel.

They can be asked anything the Feds wanna ask under oath, essentially, as long as it pertains to basketball. And these guys better damn well tell the truth or lie to federal prosecutors and face the consequences.

Puckered a$$holes will sell for a dime a dozen, and not just in that courtroom. Covering for each other won't be a good strategy. And these coaches should be a little grateful for the opportunity to go first...

 

[KerryRhodes]

LSU and Arizona are both Nike schools.

Theyre JV in comparison to buying b-ball players to the big 4.

Now LSU football :
"If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin......

 

[teamcanada]

LSU and Arizona are both Nike schools.

Didn't they catch them in the Adidas stuff though? I meant none of this stuff we have heard about is coming from the Nike side.

 

[CardsFirst]

Seems like Nike is untouchable so far.

I believe Nike set Adidas up, since many of the middle men or money men were former Nike guys.

Sent those internal detonators so Adidas will go out of business.

Nike is the mob. Boss of all bosses.
And yes i do wear some Nike gear.
They do sell nice gear.

I don’t recommend their shoes anymore. I’ve seen them blow out. Lol

 

[KerryRhodes]

I don’t recommend their shoes anymore. I’ve seen them blow out. Lol

LMAO

 

[cyanide_78]

LOL. I'm sure that question is top of the funnel.

They can be asked anything the Feds wanna ask under oath, essentially, as long as it pertains to basketball. And these guys better damn well tell the truth or lie to federal prosecutors and face the consequences.

Puckered a$$holes will sell for a dime a dozen, and not just in that courtroom. Covering for each other won't be a good strategy. And these coaches should be a little grateful for the opportunity to go first...

I thought it was odd that one minute they have him on wiretap and zona suspends him and one week later he’s coaching again. Someone will be made to look like a fool soon

 

[ShortCreek]

I thought it was odd that one minute they have him on wiretap and zona suspends him and one week later he’s coaching again. Someone will be made to look like a fool soon

I’ll tell you what will be interesting - does Kansas or LSU consider holding their team out of the NCAA tourney? I guess not!

 

[zipp]

My guess is Sean Miller is already cutting deals behind the scenes and hiring lawyers to mitigate the damage. Even if he's lost his job and career, that guy has millions in the bank and plenty to lose financially. He could be in prison and bankrupt if he plays his cards wrong...

 

[TopCatCal]

LoL

Coach K and Crapiperi continue to whistle past the graveyard.

They along with Saban are untouchable.

You say that John Calipari is untouchable? What planet have you been living on? Calipari untouchable, I bet you would have a hard time convincing the folks at UMASS & Memphis of that. You would also have a hard time convincing Enes Kanter of that as well. Not to mention the fact that the NCAA made Kentucky not celebrate Calipari 500th win.

 

[PushupMan]

I’ll tell you what will be interesting - does Kansas or LSU consider holding their team out of the NCAA tourney? I guess not!

While I understand the bitterness over UofL’s decision, I expect that either or both schools will consider it if in the future (1) the NCAA has issued a notice of allegations against them and (2) the school had admitted publicly that they were guilty of NCAA violations. To date, neither of those things have happened.

 

[zipp]

The NCAA's not doing anything quickly on these matters. For one, that's not their culture. And they don't know what's out there as far as evidence and violations. If the schools act to either look good or minimize eventual damage--great strategy!--it will be unilateral...

 

[UL_1986]

You say that John Calipari is untouchable? What planet have you been living on? Calipari untouchable, I bet you would have a hard time convincing the folks at UMASS & Memphis of that. You would also have a hard time convincing Enes Kanter of that as well. Not to mention the fact that the NCAA made Kentucky not celebrate Calipari 500th win.

Umass and Memphis were affected not Cal. He dipped out quick. And cry me a river on his 500th win celebration, wahhhhh.

 

[shadow force]

If none of the Nike schools go down then this entire thing is a farce as far as I'm concerned.

I remember when this first started that I said I doubt any other schools will lose their national championships even if proven to be involved at those times. We'll see eventually I guess.

 

[Thecycle27]

Tough spot for these coaches, who knows what is on the tapes. I don't believe for one second they don't know the system. That is easy the maneuver around with the media and NCAA that will be very difficult in federal court with wiretaps.

 

[zipp]

Tough spot for these coaches, who knows what is on the tapes. I don't believe for one second they don't know the system. That is easy the maneuver around with the media and NCAA that will be very difficult in federal court with wiretaps.

These coaches get the opportunity to curry favor with the Feds by telling the truth. It's the coaches who they reveal in their testimony who have the real problems...

 

[Thecycle27]

We will see I don't think they will admit to anything or give anyone else up. They want to be part of this profession in some capacity, they aren't going to burn bridges along the way. While it is different they will play the victim like Kansas. I am just not sure how they navigate those waters with wiretaps unless they know what is exactly on those tapes. Who knows one them may have a Jerry McGuire moment.

 

[Cincycard80]

I believe Nike set Adidas up, since many of the middle men or money men were former Nike guys.

Sent those internal detonators so Adidas will go out of business.

Nike is the mob. Boss of all bosses.
And yes i do wear some Nike gear.
They do sell nice gear.

Gears fine. Shoes suck and always have.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Gears fine. Shoes suck and always have.

Oh no.

I have pair of Black Nikes with the Gold swoosh !

 

[zipp]

We will see I don't think they will admit to anything or give anyone else up. They want to be part of this profession in some capacity, they aren't going to burn bridges along the way. While it is different they will play the victim like Kansas. I am just not sure how they navigate those waters with wiretaps unless they know what is exactly on those tapes. Who knows one them may have a Jerry McGuire moment.

Assuming these coaches subpoenaed have good attorneys, they won't be allowed to answer a question involving an admission. "Giving anyone else up" is another matter. They better damn well answer a yes/no question truthfully under oath regardless of who besides themselves it involves.

"Being part of the profession" implies this is business as usual, and there is no evidence that's the case. IMO most of this is breaking ground. People are already going to prison--find me a precedent for that...

 

[Morgantown Card]

This is the Libertarian in me - but tax evasion aside, why are people going to JAIL over college basketball recruiting? Doesn't the FBI have terrorists to look for or something?

(please, I'm not trying to make this a political thread about the war on terror, tax cuts, what you think about Trump or anything else - I'm just saying, the FBI probably has better things to do than worry about than what shady factors affected where Zion played college basketball).

 

[BPGhost]

This is the Libertarian in me - but tax evasion aside, why are people going to JAIL over college basketball recruiting? Doesn't the FBI have terrorists to look for or something?

(please, I'm not trying to make this a political thread about the war on terror, tax cuts, what you think about Trump or anything else - I'm just saying, the FBI probably has better things to do than worry about than what shady factors affected where Zion played college basketball).

This^^^ X 1,000,000.

 

[zipp]

This is the Libertarian in me - but tax evasion aside, why are people going to JAIL over college basketball recruiting? Doesn't the FBI have terrorists to look for or something?

(please, I'm not trying to make this a political thread about the war on terror, tax cuts, what you think about Trump or anything else - I'm just saying, the FBI probably has better things to do than worry about than what shady factors affected where Zion played college basketball).

Not sure you're considering the other side of the equation... You were involved in a situation where damages happened. Don't you think U of L and its fans were harmed by the actions of people like Gatto, Dawkins, Bowen and his family, Johnson, and Fair? Don't you think this is costing U of L financially?...

LINK

 

[Thecycle27]

The FBI definitely has better things to do, but they are doing this and they are all in.

It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does with Miller and Wade. Sampson was buried for violating texting rules which no longer exist. I wouldn't feel good if I was those two especially if they are on multiple wire taps.

The coaches are the ones that need to be hammered by the NCAA not the Universities. The only way the Universities should be brought into this is if administrators were actively engaged or negligent in committing/addressing NCAA violations. Until coaches are held accountable for their programs nothing will change.

The NCAA has taken cooperation out of the equation, when you have 10,000 rules to administer with no real enforcement of those rules your membership better be cooperative. Through their actions they have told every member don't cooperate.

 

[Mayoman]

The FBI definitely has better things to do, but they are doing this and they are all in.

It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does with Miller and Wade. Sampson was buried for violating texting rules which no longer exist. I wouldn't feel good if I was those two especially if they are on multiple wire taps.

The coaches are the ones that need to be hammered by the NCAA not the Universities. The only way the Universities should be brought into this is if administrators were actively engaged or negligent in committing/addressing NCAA violations. Until coaches are held accountable for their programs nothing will change.

The NCAA has taken cooperation out of the equation, when you have 10,000 rules to administer with no real enforcement of those rules your membership better be cooperative. Through their actions they have told every member don't cooperate.

This times 1000.

All the way back to Rupp's years of probation embarrassment; the NCAA has not really held the coaches accountable. If they ever did a whole lot of cheating ass coaches would have been permanently banned from coaching at the sport at the college level.

Had that ever been the NCAA MO, it would not have paid for those cheaters to continue cheating and making an example of those that did cheat, and not the school, may have cured what ails this sport so much today.

Fired, fined, and jail time.....might get their attention to not cheat at all. Who knows?

And it should be a conflict of interest for shoe companies to make shoe deals with the schools either. Take the greed and money out of the equation and that might clean up the mess going on nowadays. Naw, the cheaters would just find another way to cheat. It is who they are.

 

[PushupMan]

This is the Libertarian in me - but tax evasion aside, why are people going to JAIL over college basketball recruiting? Doesn't the FBI have terrorists to look for or something?

(please, I'm not trying to make this a political thread about the war on terror, tax cuts, what you think about Trump or anything else - I'm just saying, the FBI probably has better things to do than worry about than what shady factors affected where Zion played college basketball).

Yes and no ... in some respects you might see this as a victimless crime, as it’s difficult to envision athletic departments earning in excess of $50 million per year as victims. But when you consider how much money those athletic departments stand to lose when they are sanctioned by the NCAA, it starts to make sense....

Zipp has pointed out that UofL lost $17 million last year after the scandal revealed that Adidas paid Bowen $100,000 to attend UofL. Ask yourself how many employees UofL is going to have to lay off or fire in order to balance that budget, and then tell me whether or not the FBI should spend at least some resources to ensure that athletic departments (and their employees) are protected from NCAA scandals.

 

[BPGhost]

Yes and no ... in some respects you might see this as a victimless crime, as it’s difficult to envision athletic departments earning in excess of $50 million per year as victims. But when you consider how much money those athletic departments stand to lose when they are sanctioned by the NCAA, it starts to make sense....

Zipp has pointed out that UofL lost $17 million last year after the scandal revealed that Adidas paid Bowen $100,000 to attend UofL. Ask yourself how many employees UofL is going to have to lay off or fire in order to balance that budget, and then tell me whether or not the FBI should spend at least some resources to ensure that athletic departments (and their employees) are protected from NCAA scandals.

And yet - without the FBI investigation - there would have been no Bowen scandal and no loss of money or, need to lay off employees.

Until and unless such time that actual crimes within the FBI's scope and, that are harmful to the general public are closer to eliminated, the FBI should not spend one thin dime of the taxpayers' money to prop up the failing ncaa.

 

[zipp]

When a homeless person gets murdered, why prosecute the killer? What's the real loss?

 

[PushupMan]

And yet - without the FBI investigation - there would have been no Bowen scandal and no loss of money or, need to lay off employees.

Until and unless such time that actual crimes within the FBI's scope and, that are harmful to the general public are closer to eliminated, the FBI should not spend one thin dime of the taxpayers' money to prop up the failing ncaa.

I’m perfectly okay with changing NCAA rules so that players like Bowen who accept shoe company money are allowed to do so and still be considered amateur athletes. But until those rules are changed, what these assistant coaches and shoe company executives did was illegal, as evidenced by the fact that all of it was done in secret.

Also, I’m pretty sure that tax evasion falls within the scope of the FBI’s remit. Remind me again what the gift tax on $100,000 would be?

 

[BPGhost]

I’m perfectly okay with changing NCAA rules so that players like Bowen who accept shoe company money are allowed to do so and still be considered amateur athletes. But until those rules are changed, what these assistant coaches and shoe company executives did was illegal, as evidenced by the fact that all of it was done in secret.

Also, I’m pretty sure that tax evasion falls within the scope of the FBI’s remit. Remind me again what the gift tax on $100,000 would be?

Yes, investigating tax evasion is part of the FBI's purview. Correct me if I'm wrong but, the tax evasion in question here - allegedly by the Bowen family - was not the focus of the investigation, it was simply "discovered" subsequently as an ancillary facet of the investigation of the coaches. I fully understand that this occurs regularly and most famously as the way that they imprisoned Capone. I still submit that in a world of limited resources, the FBI should prioritize their efforts on investigating crimes that have more of impact on the public at large. All of the following areas are what the FBI investigate and each and every one of them has a more negative impact - both potentially and actually - than some kid getting money to go to one college over another.

• Terrorism
• Counterintelligence
• Cyber Crime
• Public Corruption
• Civil Rights
• Organized Crime
• White-Collar Crime
• Violent Crime
• W[URL='https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/wmd']MD[/URL]

 

[nccardfan]

Yes, investigating tax evasion is part of the FBI's purview. Correct me if I'm wrong but, the tax evasion in question here - allegedly by the Bowen family - was not the focus of the investigation, it was simply "discovered" subsequently as an ancillary facet of the investigation of the coaches. I fully understand that this occurs regularly and most famously as the way that they imprisoned Capone. I still submit that in a world of limited resources, the FBI should prioritize their efforts on investigating crimes that have more of impact on the public at large. All of the following areas are what the FBI investigate and each and every one of them has a more negative impact - both potentially and actually - than some kid getting money to go to one college over another.

• Terrorism
• Counterintelligence
• Cyber Crime
• Public Corruption
• Civil Rights
• Organized Crime
• White-Collar Crime
• Violent Crime
• WMD

And yet Al Capone was arrested for what? murder, espionage, organized crime?

 

[BPGhost]

And yet Al Capone was arrested for what? murder, espionage, organized crime?

Because that was the big takeaway of my post...

And if I recall correctly, Capone was being investigated by the FBI for (wait for it) murder and organized crime.

 

[nccardfan]

Because that was the big takeaway of my post...

And if I recall correctly, Capone was being investigated by the FBI for (wait for it) murder and organized crime.

You can’t discover something unless you look for it.