Adel, King, Bowen, and Sutton

[shadow force]

It will be interesting to see how Pitino employs these guys and at what position on the court. The SF position is the most loaded spot right now, though it seems like Adel might be playing SG next season. Wondering if Bowen will split time between SG and SF or maybe King will?

Anyway this next season certainly got a big jolt with Bowen's late entry to the team and makes losing Mitchell sting just a bit less.

 

[Cue Card]

Both Adel and King need to improve their ball handling skills. I know next to nothing about Sutton and Bowen. I think Snider will be handling the ball the most. Not sure who will back him up.

 

[zipp]

As I understand, Sutton is more of a small power forward. I've never heard talk about his shooting skills...

 

[shadow force]

Both Adel and King need to improve their ball handling skills. I know next to nothing about Sutton and Bowen. I think Snider will be handling the ball the most. Not sure who will back him up.

Definitely agree with you on whoever is going to fill in at SG needing to improve their ball handling and passing skills- whether that's Adel, King, or both. Not sure about Bowen as I haven't seen him play.

 

[shadow force]

As I understand, Sutton is more of a small power forward. I've never heard talk about his shooting skills...

I've heard Sutton is a good rebounder but I'm not sure about his shooting and handling skills either. If he can also play PF then it will be interesting. Any way one looks at it the SF and PF positions are pretty loaded personnel wise.

 

[flyercard]

Both Adel and King need to improve their ball handling skills. I know next to nothing about Sutton and Bowen. I think Snider will be handling the ball the most. Not sure who will back him up.

As stated by another poster, McMahon and Perry are the apparent backups for Q.

 

[Strongtino]

I think the guys from Louisville Sports Live first brought this up but it makes sense...I could see a lineup of

Ray - 6'10
Adel - 6'7
King - 6'6
Bowen - 6'7
Snider - 6'2

I don't think Anas is ever going to be that 30+ minute solid, starter at Center and Ray's the logical choice to slide over to the 5 when Anas is out it will allow Williams to slide into the 4 spot or utilize Adel, King and Bowen all at once. Adel would be the most suited to play the 4 if he, King and Bowen were all 3 on the floor at the same time. I think we're going to see a relative system of "position-less" basketball outside of Q and Perry always running the point. Rick has too many players that can play too many positions. Also, I would be we are more likely to see Sutton at PF than SG if he plays anything other than SF.

I can see a situation where the starting lineup is exactly what everyone thinks it will be: Anas, Ray, King, Adel and Snider but that group of 5 only plays together probably 10 mins a game with Malik, Bowen and Sutton all being subbed in and out and King and Adel sliding everywhere from the SG to the SF to the PF spots.

 

[nccardfan]

I think the guys from Louisville Sports Live first brought this up but it makes sense...I could see a lineup of

Ray - 6'10
Adel - 6'7
King - 6'6
Bowen - 6'7
Snider - 6'2

I don't think Anas is ever going to be that 30+ minute solid, starter at Center and Ray's the logical choice to slide over to the 5 when Anas is out it will allow Williams to slide into the 4 spot or utilize Adel, King and Bowen all at once. Adel would be the most suited to play the 4 if he, King and Bowen were all 3 on the floor at the same time. I think we're going to see a relative system of "position-less" basketball outside of Q and Perry always running the point. Rick has too many players that can play too many positions. Also, I would be we are more likely to see Sutton at PF than SG if he plays anything other than SF.

I can see a situation where the starting lineup is exactly what everyone thinks it will be: Anas, Ray, King, Adel and Snider but that group of 5 only plays together probably 10 mins a game with Malik, Bowen and Sutton all being subbed in and out and King and Adel sliding everywhere from the SG to the SF to the PF spots.

I think you will be surprised. Anas is just a better passer than Ray and has more offensive moves. If he can stay out of foul trouble, he's also difficult to score on with his long arms and length.

 

[zipp]

I think the guys from Louisville Sports Live first brought this up but it makes sense...I could see a lineup of

Ray - 6'10
Adel - 6'7
King - 6'6
Bowen - 6'7
Snider - 6'2...

There's around 2.5 guys in that line-up I'm confident about playing defense. Also not too sure about ball handling and rebounding. Other than that, it gets my vote...

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Guessing there will be many different starting lineups. Team will have different head coaches too. Maybe even have a new mascot.

 

[nccardfan]

My first guess:

Mahmoud - C
Sutton - PF
Bowen/King - SF
Adel - SG
Snider - PG

 

[Kemelgor]

Mahmoud - C
Spalding- PF
King or Bowen - SF
Adel - SQ
Q - PG

Big things out of Ray and Anas could determine the year.

 

[Cardinal Cash]

I've heard Sutton is very athletic. Great vertical and has some speed. Seems like the small forward type with 2 guard potential if Deng, VJ, and Bowen can be the spot up shooters. I would say if he can dribble well at all he gets some run as the back up SF to Deng, VJ, or Bowen. We will basically be playing with 2 SF's all year. Not a good recipe for when we play teams with great guard play. im worried about the lateral quickness on the defense. Maybe Perry will get some run with Q and we will go small ball.

 

[Cardinal Cash]

After doing some digging it looks like Dwayne has 2 guard reserve written all over him IMO just based off of some highlights.

 

[nccardfan]

After doing some digging it looks like Dwayne has 2 guard reserve written all over him IMO just based off of some highlights.

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I wouldn't expect a guy who led his team in rebounding with 7.7 rebs a game and had over 8 rebounds in 16 games to be a backup 2 guard. He will backup Ray at PF when and if we go small and possibly play the 3.

 

[Cardinal Cash]

I wouldn't expect a guy who led his team in rebounding with 7.7 rebs a game and had over 8 rebounds in 16 games to be a backup 2 guard. He will backup Ray at PF when and if we go small and possibly play the 3.

He can be a utility. If he has that skill set as well he will be useful down low, but it looks like he has better handles than Adel from what I've seen. That's why I suggested 2 guard.

 

[anon_0astpxev9h4gk]

Excited for this years squad. Nervous about front court a little, but I think Anas and Ray will prove their role as upperclassmen.

 

[Cue Card]

Coach seems to be really excited about this team. He's boasting that he has a athletically talented group to work with. He even said the word 'loaded' when describing his team.

Coaching fodder? IDK, but it's better than hearing doom and gloom.

 

[nccardfan]

Coach seems to be really excited about this team. He's boasting that he has a athletically talented group to work with. He even said the word 'loaded' when describing his team.

Coaching fodder? IDK, but it's better than hearing doom and gloom.

You don't think CRP exaggerates a little from time to time? Mike Marra was going to be the next Reggie Miller...

 

[Cue Card]

You don't think CRP exaggerates a little from time to time? Mike Marta was going to be the next Reggie Miller...

Yes, I am extremely aware of how he likes to exaggerate. I always take his comments with a boulder (not grain) of salt. It actually makes me a wee bit nervous when he starts talking like this.

 

[bigloucards]

Excited for this years squad. Nervous about front court a little, but I think Anas and Ray will prove their role as upperclassmen.

Don't forget about Malik Williams! He should be solid and give some depth to the front court!

 

[rentalman]

I think you will see King, Adel & Bowen share the 2 & 3 spots. That's 80 minutes available between them. I expect RP to press 94 feet, 40 minutes a game so they will need rest. I think there may be some situations you could see all 3 on the floor at the same time, but I don't expect to see that a lot because we are pretty deep at the 4 with Spalding, Williams and Kwora available there.. Unless there are injuries Sutton will only get mop-up minutes this season. With the potential of Adel, Bowen & King leaving for the NBA after next season Sutton could play a very important role in the 18-19 Season.

 

[real2it]

I think you will see King, Adel & Bowen share the 2 & 3 spots. That's 80 minutes available between them. I expect RP to press 94 feet, 40 minutes a game so they will need rest. I think there may be some situations you could see all 3 on the floor at the same time, but I don't expect to see that a lot because we are pretty deep at the 4 with Spalding, Williams and Kwora available there.. Unless there are injuries Sutton will only get mop-up minutes this season. With the potential of Adel, Bowen & King leaving for the NBA after next season Sutton could play a very important role in the 18-19 Season.

I wouldn't knock a guy that already has college ball experience, not to mention a year in the system to know what is expected. Add in the fact that he has a chip because of all the press of the McDonald's AA he might just play harder. All speculation at this point but if any of the above manifests itself in his play then Sutton may be getting more minutes then you might expect. I could see it at the 4 as I hear he is a Poor Man's Chane B.

 

[rentalman]

I wouldn't knock a guy that already has college ball experience, not to mention a year in the system to know what is expected. Add in the fact that he has a chip because of all the press of the McDonald's AA he might just play harder. All speculation at this point but if any of the above manifests itself in his play then Sutton may be getting more minutes then you might expect. I could see it at the 4 as I hear he is a Poor Man's Chane B.

Not knocking the Kid. In fact I stated that he could play a very important role in 2018-19. Anybody who can average nearly 13 points at the D-1 level, regardless of where he played is a good basketball player. But in a recent interview RP was asked about Sutton and his response was along the lines of he is our most physical player, but he did not play physical in practice last year. And if does not play that way he won't play. And that comment was made before adding Bowen, I could be wrong, but I would bet I'm not. His competition is an experienced Adel who quite likely will be a 1st round draft pick in the NBA. The other two vying for his spot were 5 Star recruits. And RP would deny it but Sutton would have too way out play either King or Bowen to play in front of them because RP would get killed on the recruiting trail if he played a transfer over the 5 star guys.

 

[nccardfan]

Not knocking the Kid. In fact I stated that he could play a very important role in 2018-19. Anybody who can average nearly 13 points at the D-1 level, regardless of where he played is a good basketball player. But in a recent interview RP was asked about Sutton and his response was along the lines of he is our most physical player, but he did not play physical in practice last year. And if does not play that way he won't play. And that comment was made before adding Bowen, I could be wrong, but I would bet I'm not. His competition is an experienced Adel who quite likely will be a 1st round draft pick in the NBA. The other two vying for his spot were 5 Star recruits. And RP would deny it but Sutton would have too way out play either King or Bowen to play in front of them because RP would get killed on the recruiting trail if he played a transfer over the 5 star guys.

CRP doesn't play those games. He plays the guys who put out maximum effort in practices. Sutton comes across as a gym rat. If he works his butt off he will be rewarded with PT.

 

[rentalman]

CRP doesn't play those games. He plays the guys who put out maximum effort in practices. Sutton comes across as a gym rat. If he works his butt off he will be rewarded with PT.

I am not saying RP plays those games. What I am saying is if there is little difference in their level of play, the 5 star is going to play. Your naïve if you don't believe that. So Sutton will have to put distance between his play and Bowen and King to get on the floor. My personal opinion is RP is not impressed with Sutton. I watch almost every RP press conference because I find him very interesting. With RP you have to learn to read between the lines. Twice in the off season he has talked about Sutton and he chose his words very carefully. I believe it was this last press conference he started to say something stopped and said no I am not going to use that analogy. I do know at least one of the assistants is very high on Sutton.

I have nothing against Sutton. If he is the best player at that position than he should be on the floor. I expressed an opinion and my comment on Sutton was based on RPs PCs.

 

[real2it]

I wouldn't knock a guy that already has college ball experience, not to mention a year in the system to know what is expected. Add in the fact that he has a chip because of all the press of the McDonald's AA he might just play harder. All speculation at this point but if any of the above manifests itself in his play then Sutton may be getting more minutes then you might expect. I could see it at the 4 as I hear he is a Poor Man's Chane B.

Not knocking the Kid. In fact I stated that he could play a very important role in 2018-19. Anybody who can average nearly 13 points at the D-1 level, regardless of where he played is a good basketball player. But in a recent interview RP was asked about Sutton and his response was along the lines of he is our most physical player, but he did not play physical in practice last year. And if does not play that way he won't play. And that comment was made before adding Bowen, I could be wrong, but I would bet I'm not. His competition is an experienced Adel who quite likely will be a 1st round draft pick in the NBA. The other two vying for his spot were 5 Star recruits. And RP would deny it but Sutton would have too way out play either King or Bowen to play in front of them because RP would get killed on the recruiting trail if he played a transfer over the 5 star guys.

My bad rental I didn't mean knock like you were bashing his ability but knock like doubting him. Haha anyway you could be spot on but we know CRP uses the media to motivate. The other coaches said Sutton was a beast. Maybe CRP wants him to be more consistent. Either way the addition of Bowen adds quality depth at the 2-4 spots as Deng, Bowen, and Sutton could all play at those spots if called upon.