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It’s still sort of hard to believe the latest turn of events at Louisville which finds former Wake Forest head coach and, more recently, Louisville assistant, Dino Gaudio, with extortion.

It’s the second extortion case for the program in just over a decade and in between those scandals are two major NCAA scandals, one involving escorts for recruits and the other the infamous FBI Adidas case.

So this one has gone over like a lead balloon in the Commonwealth and has had an unusual effect: Kentucky fans get to brag about how clean the Wildcats program is. Only by comparison, but still. Imagine!

Pat Forde, who was with the Louisville Courier-Journal for a good long time, has as much right to criticize the program as any writer, is basically suggesting shutting it down out of sheer embarrassment.

And with three major criminal cases, (possibly) three NCAA cases in a decade, it must be hugely embarrassing for the university and not much less for the ACC. Chris Mack may wake up in a day or two to find that the ground has completely shifted under his program.

Given the dreadful history of recent scandals and Gaudio’s allegations of a new one, you’d have to think that the Death Penalty will at least be discussed. The NCAA may ultimately decide that that’s the only way to get Louisville’s attention.

Unless of course Louisville decides that enough is enough first.
 

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A tradition like no other: Louisville basketball and extortion plots.

Seriously, this is the extent of the outlandish weirdness that the men’s program wears like a retch-inducing cheap cologne: for the second time in a dozen years, the Cardinals say they are the victims of a bizarre blackmail scheme requiring federal intervention. There was Rick Pitino’s extortion at the hands of a woman he had sex with in a restaurant, which put Karen Sypher behind bars for years; and there is the current case that blew up Tuesday when former assistant coach Dino Gaudio was federally charged for allegedly threatening in March to turn over NCAA violations to the media if his demands for money weren’t met.

What in the actual hell?

But wait, there also is the slalom through scandal between the bookend extortions: the strippers in the dorm that were arranged and paid for by a Louisville staffer, which led to major NCAA sanctions; and the Brian Bowen payola scam that was part of the Southern District of New York’s exposure of corruption in college basketball, which is still winding its way through the NCAA crime-and-punishment process.

Now blackmail. Again! This time from the inside! “This isn’t an outside party, like the last one,” as one impressed/aghast college basketball source put it. “This is brother-on-brother crime.”

This is, according to the charging document, what went down on March 17, three days after Louisville was left out of the men's NCAA tournament: In an “in-person meeting with Louisville personnel,” Gaudio threatened to report violations pertaining to production of recruiting videos for athletes and the use of graduate assistants in practices. Later that day, per the document, Gaudio also sent via text one of the recruiting videos to “Louisville personnel,” with the text having “traveled” outside the state of Kentucky.

Gaudio, per the feds, was seeking 17 months of salary, or the lump-sum equivalent. The exchanges occurred after Gaudio was informed by head coach Chris Mack—who Gaudio has known for about 30 years—that his contract wasn’t being renewed. He has been charged with Interstate Communication with Intent to Extort, a felony which carries a penalty of no more than two years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
“The University and I were the victims of Coach Gaudio’s conduct and I will continue to fully cooperate with authorities in their investigations,” Mack said in a statement.

Brian Butler, attorney for Gaudio, told Sports Illustrated that Gaudio was blindsided by his termination and that the conversation with Mack “became heated. Coach Gaudio was hurt, he was angry, he felt he was being dealt with unfairly, and he made comments he regrets. And he wasn’t given the chance to walk those back.”
And the comments are on tape, according to Butler, without Gaudio’s knowledge.
“Coach Gaudio intends to take full responsibility for his mistake,” Butler said. “He hopes that all the good he has done in 40 years in the coaching profession will put that mistake in context of a moment of hurt and anger. We expect this to be resolved expeditiously."

So here we are, with the latest tumult in a program that has cornered the market on crazy. You can search high and low for one college basketball team ensnared in an extortion fiasco. This one has two on the books. In this area alone, the Cardinals have returned to No. 1 status for the first time since 2013, when it won a national title … which was subsequently vacated.

I mean, Bobby Petrino’s two tenures as football coach were boring compared to the string of crackpot happenings in hoops.

Much as Pitino learned in 2009, being the victim of extortion doesn’t alleviate the spotlight on what led to being extorted. And if Louisville committed a third set of NCAA violations within the past few years, as Gaudio alleged, they might as well turn the Yum Center into America’s biggest flea market and shut the program down for a few years.

If Gaudio’s allegations are substantiated—and the school did nothing to refute them in its statement Tuesday—Louisville’s NCAA caseload may be reaching critical mass. How this is handled by NCAA Enforcement (or its alternate body, the Independent Accountability Review Process, which has been dealing with the Bowen case) will be very important.

According to sources familiar with NCAA charging guidelines, these are likely to be considered Level II or III violations, perhaps tilting more toward Level III. A Level II violation—a “significant breach of conduct”—could be trouble for the Cardinals, given all the other baggage. Level III is considered more inadvertent violations or infractions that produce “minimal advantages.”

The use of graduate assistants in practice was deemed a Level II violation in a recent ruling in an NCAA case involving UTEP football. But as anyone who has operated in the NCAA infractions space knows, these are not one-size-fits-all cases. If there is video of Mack running practices with the GAs involved in an impermissible way—especially if it’s a regular occurrence—that would seem to heighten the risk for Louisville.
So would cumulative effect. When the infractions pile up higher than the Twin Spires at Churchill Downs, that’s a problem.

According to NCAA bylaws, one of the “aggravating circumstances” that can ratchet up penalties, is history of violations. And, boy howdy, does Louisville have some recent history. As one lawyer with knowledge of the process put it, the question in a potential hearing setting could well be, “Why is your school here again?”

Which brings us to an existential question that could be germane to both an infractions committee and everyone else with a stake in college athletics: Does the world really need Louisville men’s basketball?
Would it be the worst thing if it went into an NCAA-induced coma and then reawakened in, say, 2024? Would the so-called NCAA Death Penalty be too strict for a program that has become Repeat Violatorville? How many embarrassments are too many? How much is a chronic source of controversy worth? What is the tolerance level for bad headlines?

The Atlantic Coast Conference, which was rather elastic in stretching its academic rep to bring in Louisville in 2014, might be asking those questions. So might the school’s own administration, which has worked hard to upgrade its academic profile.

When your last two full-time head men’s basketball coaches have both been blackmailed, things are not good. And when there were two major scandals in between those extortions, things are worse. Aside from providing prurient interest for a public that is perpetually amused by the underbelly of college basketball, Louisville isn’t contributing much to the sport.
 
Here’s all you really need to know:

“... these are level 2 or 3 violations, perhaps tilting more to level 3”.

The rest is just a writer trying to get attention through the most sensational headline he can come up with.

“UofL basketball used grad assistants to be able to complete practices during a pandemic.”

Think about how ludicrous that charge is for a second....
 
Here’s all you really need to know:

“... these are level 2 or 3 violations, perhaps tilting more to level 3”.

The rest is just a writer trying to get attention through the most sensational headline he can come up with.

“UofL basketball used grad assistants to be able to complete practices during a pandemic.”

Think about how ludicrous that charge is for a second....
Seems like considering all the NCAA sports that were affected by Covid, wouldn’t there have been some protocol if a team didn’t have enough players to practice? Just asking. If there was a protocol, did we not follow it? Would have been a simple email, text, phone call. We don’t have enough players, can I use my grad assistants during practice?
 
People are going to see the headline and think that Chris Mack is out paying recruits and that Katina and her band of nasty, ugly, skanky trick-ass ho's dusted off their stripper polls and re-installed them in the men's dorm room. The damage is done, minds are made up. I have no idea what the NCAA will do but all of this will absolutely be used against Louisville on the recruiting trail (as if there wasn't enough ammo already).
 
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Talk about over-reaction!

The extortion was directed against UL; not by UL. Even the lawyer representing Gaudio has conceded that his client is guilty, but it was a result of an emotional reaction to disappointment with being terminated. Be mindful, the extortion took place after Gaudio was terminated, not while employed. As far as the NCAA is concerned; any violation that took place will be addressed separate to the criminality.

The headlines will soon pass and only the "usual suspects" (UK fans, CJ, Forde, etc) will try and use it to attack UL.
 
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Talk about over-reaction!

The extortion was directed against UL; not by UL. Even the lawyer representing Gaudio has conceded that his client is guilty, but it was a result of an emotional reaction to disappointment with being terminated. Be mindful, the extortion took place after Gaudio was terminated, not while employed. As far as the NCAA is concerned; any violation that took place will be addressed separate to the criminality.

The headlines will soon pass and only the "usual suspects" (UK fans, CJ, Forde, etc) will try and use it to attack UL.
 
I know we are in our bubble here but my gosh the perception of UofL basketball outside of here is that of a totally rogue program. Yes Gaudio acted criminally but we also didn’t deny the violations, although they appear to be minor. Not sure we can afford even minor violations. I sincerely hope we have a good season next year because things just aren’t going well. Even this new assistant we hired with his supposed new approach to coaching offense seems a bit desperate.
 
Talk about over-reaction!

The extortion was directed against UL; not by UL. Even the lawyer representing Gaudio has conceded that his client is guilty, but it was a result of an emotional reaction to disappointment with being terminated. Be mindful, the extortion took place after Gaudio was terminated, not while employed. As far as the NCAA is concerned; any violation that took place will be addressed separate to the criminality.

The headlines will soon pass and only the "usual suspects" (UK fans, CJ, Forde, etc) will try and use it to attack UL.
Many of the " usual suspects" are on this board!
 
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Talk about over-reaction!

The extortion was directed against UL; not by UL. Even the lawyer representing Gaudio has conceded that his client is guilty, but it was a result of an emotional reaction to disappointment with being terminated. Be mindful, the extortion took place after Gaudio was terminated, not while employed. As far as the NCAA is concerned; any violation that took place will be addressed separate to the criminality.

The headlines will soon pass and only the "usual suspects" (UK fans, CJ, Forde, etc) will try and use it to attack UL.

It's just more shit piled on top of what was already a bit pile of shit.
 
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I get that the Gaudio story doesn’t look good for UofL just because it’s an embarrassing story with their name involved but how the f**k is this a reflection on UofL? Yes the man worked here but he had an amazing reputation and just went off the rails when Louisville let him walk. Louisville had no control over this.

Now I do think Louisville was very dumb in how they handled this. Unless there’s something they’re not telling us (and I doubt they are because Dino has already admitted guilt) then this seems like an incident that could have easily been resolved without law enforcement getting involved and putting more unwanted eyes on Louisville’s internal issues.
 
People are going to see the headline and think that Chris Mack is out paying recruits and that Katina and her band of nasty, ugly, skanky trick-ass ho's dusted off their stripper polls and re-installed them in the men's dorm room. The damage is done, minds are made up. I have no idea what the NCAA will do but all of this will absolutely be used against Louisville on the recruiting trail (as if there wasn't enough ammo already).
I also wonder if we'll end up losing more players to the Portal. Guys are getting asked questions about this in the dorms and on campus. They might get to the point where they say "F-this".
 
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i would think that the ncaa would have to do backflips to raise these allegation to more than just that. The article gives some question if the blackmailer would have any real intention of cooperating with the NCAA...since now his attorney is saying the client said things in the heat of the moment.

It kind of sounds like the terminated coach blew up at a thirty year friend, the head coach did due diligence and contacted the AD and up, and the decision was made to get the feds involved to shut this thing down.

While the U of L didnt deny it happened, a level three violation is kinda like giving a player a quarter to finish off paying for a cheeseburger.

Optics are bad, because of the FBI involvement and extortion case...but just to me this is Guardios (sp) problem more than the University of Louisville.

Forde is a biased writer...albeit very talented. He was a Pitino follower, and co author, who now feels some strange need to distance himself from anything University of Louisville related.
 
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I also wonder if we'll end up losing more players to the Portal. Guys are getting asked questions about this in the dorms and on campus. They might get to the point where they say "F-this".

Agree. What happened, really isn't a reflection on Louisville, it's a reflection of Dino. But perception is reality on the recruiting trail and like politics, covid, and everything else in the world there are only 2 sides of everything and minds are already made up.
 
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It doesn’t reflect well on UofL because it provides salacious headlines and builds upon the narrative that UofL is a rogue program. My biggest concern is how idiotically this firing was handled. There are some solid sources that said the firings got leaked before they were actually consummated. Why in the hell did we even announce (or leak) that we were firing Gaudio? Mack could’ve said “we aren’t renewing your contract but to save face how about we just announce that you are retiring? This year was a grind for everybody and Dino decided it was a good time to step away”. Dino saves face and Mack doesn’t look like a coach desperately dismantling his staff. Now maybe Dino wouldn’t go along with that plan but finding out through the grapevine that you are getting fired isn’t a good spot to be put in.
 
We’re worrying about things which we have zero control. What’s done is done. Dino knows we’re on double secret probation. He thought ANY violation might kill us, so he threatened with probable L3’s? He grabbed a straw and it broke.

No sense worrying until there is something to worry about.

The NCAA is in a money bind

The ACC is in a money bind and trailing two and maybe three P5 conferences in income.

So they’re both going to kick out one of the biggest producers?

Think about that for a minute.

Money overrides pride and righteousness every time.
 
Seems like considering all the NCAA sports that were affected by Covid, wouldn’t there have been some protocol if a team didn’t have enough players to practice? Just asking. If there was a protocol, did we not follow it? Would have been a simple email, text, phone call. We don’t have enough players, can I use my grad assistants during practice?
Understand what you’re asking, but I doubt the NCAA had the personnel required to promptly answer the number of emails they would have received from all of the schools who needed to use grad assistants to conduct practices.

Think about how many schools had to cancel games during the season and then imagine how many times during the season that the 700 men’s and women’s basketball programs didn’t have enough players to practice due to contracting the virus and/or contact tracing. Remember that you’re also dealing with other injuries that might prevent players from practicing, in addition to COVID.
 
Understand what you’re asking, but I doubt the NCAA had the personnel required to promptly answer the number of emails they would have received from all of the schools who needed to use grad assistants to conduct practices.

Think about how many schools had to cancel games during the season and then imagine how many times during the season that the 700 men’s and women’s basketball programs didn’t have enough players to practice due to contracting the virus and/or contact tracing. Remember that you’re also dealing with other injuries that might prevent players from practicing, in addition to COVID.
Right, but how many other schools are getting cited for it and why did Gaudio think it was worth extorting Mack for? Please don’t say NCAA conspiracy against Louisville.
 
Right, but how many other schools are getting cited for it and why did Gaudio think it was worth extorting Mack for? Please don’t say NCAA conspiracy against Louisville.
Gaudio thought it was worth extorting UofL over because he felt that he had leverage due to UofL’s two NCAA violations cases (one not even resolved yet).

No other schools are getting cited for it because no other school had a coach who thought the school that fired him would pay him rather than have him reveal level 2/3 infractions.

I guess you could say it’s inherent in my opinion the assumption that many schools were practicing with grad students this year. I am usually much more supportive of the NCAA’s viewpoint than the average fan, but I will be very disappointed if the practicing with grad assistants charge during the pandemic becomes a punishable violation.
 
We’re worrying about things which we have zero control. What’s done is done. Dino knows we’re on double secret probation. He thought ANY violation might kill us, so he threatened with probable L3’s? He grabbed a straw and it broke.

No sense worrying until there is something to worry about.

The NCAA is in a money bind

The ACC is in a money bind and trailing two and maybe three P5 conferences in income.

So they’re both going to kick out one of the biggest producers?

Think about that for a minute.

Money overrides pride and righteousness every time.
I hadn't thought about it in that light. I think you're right and I feel better about the situation now. Thank you for posting.
 
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A hype video about a recruit and GA's helping out with practice?

Truthfully, I can't believe these are even violations at all. But I guarantee you people see the headline and think Mack is out paying recruits and Katina's stanky ugly skank ass has dusted of her stripper poll.
 
If they are infractions, believe they would be level 3 notice. Since it appears Gaudio (sp) is apologizing, I believe after some thought this is a major problem for him more than anything else.
 
Maybe Both coaches were let go because they were the ones that violated the rules. Whatever, Guido really shot himself in the foot I would think his coaching career is over.
 
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Since the “dukies” don’t make the rules why does anyone give a big rats azz what they think. I sure don’t.

GO CARDS!!!
Saw a funny story this week about Rudy Giuliani’s son who is running for governor of NY. The son was thrown off the Duke golf team by vote of the rest of the team. Apparently he was too big of an a*****e. Another Duke alum was quoted, “Do you know how big of an a*****e you have to be to be too big of an a*****e at Duke?”
 
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Saw a funny story this week about Rudy Giuliani’s son who is running for governor of NY. The son was thrown off the Duke golf team by vote of the rest of the team. Apparently he was too big of an a*****e. Another Duke alum was quoted, “Do you know how big of an a*****e you have to be to be too big of an a*****e at Duke?”
Great report fredburgcard.

GO CARDS!!!
 
I suspect there is more to the Duke vs Giuliani story; no one gets removed from a college team just because someone says they are an a-hole. Duke is probably responding to some of the things our fans said about their program.

This extortion story will die a quick death, as it appears the Government has already obtained a plea agreement.
 
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It doesn’t reflect well on UofL because it provides salacious headlines and builds upon the narrative that UofL is a rogue program. My biggest concern is how idiotically this firing was handled. There are some solid sources that said the firings got leaked before they were actually consummated. Why in the hell did we even announce (or leak) that we were firing Gaudio? Mack could’ve said “we aren’t renewing your contract but to save face how about we just announce that you are retiring? This year was a grind for everybody and Dino decided it was a good time to step away”. Dino saves face and Mack doesn’t look like a coach desperately dismantling his staff. Now maybe Dino wouldn’t go along with that plan but finding out through the grapevine that you are getting fired isn’t a good spot to be put in.
Yes, this makes great sense. But, let's consider that maybe the coaches who were not retained were involved in the "minor" violations (with the grad assistants being involved while Mack was out due to Covid), and Mack learns about the violations. Mack then reports the violations to Tyra and to Compliance and decides the coaches must go due to the school's past history, and then Gaudio makes his demands. This leads to the lack of further details from the program about Gaudio's departure until the extortion threat is disclosed. Murray, on the other hand, uses the quiet time to take the more normal route out of town, using his professional contacts to secure a job with UConn.
 
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Yes, this makes great sense. But, let's consider that maybe the coaches who were not retained were involved in the "minor" violations (with the grad assistants being involved while Mack was out due to Covid), and Mack learns about the violations. Mack then reports the violations to Tyra and to Compliance and decides the coaches must go due to the school's past history, and then Gaudio makes his demands. This leads to the lack of further details from the program about Gaudio's departure until the extortion threat is disclosed. Murray, on the other hand, uses the quiet time to take the more normal route out of town, using his professional contacts to secure a job with UConn.
Gaudio was set to retire whereas Luke is just beginning his career. There was talk Luke was going to get a HC position but some fallout from this ordeal led him to take an asst position at UCONN.
 
It is probably true that those who just read headlines and fail to understand the facts might very well see UL in the “UNLV light”. When one looks at all the violations directed towards UL; it should be evident that a very few individuals acted badly, there is no indication that UL has a culture of cheating. In fact, UL has been most proactive in addressing those who violated the rules.
 
I used to think Forde was a good writer. What a hack he’s become. Death Penalty? Are you kidding? BTW, CRP and UofL were victims of extortion plots. The crime was committed against them. You realize that, right Pat?
 
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But Pat would, and did, couch his remarks in an anti UofL rant. Those people can go fly a kite as far as I’m concerned.

GO CARDS!!!
 
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