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Maybe, but what exactly has been done behind the scenes to get us "here"?
Jurich has been clean on everything except his loyalty to Pitino.
Local Media and local moguls have smeared Jurich with the Yum! Center and Ramsey.
Our other sports programs are squeaky cliean....Pitino and Men's Basketball has been the problem.
Gut the Men's Basketball program. Go all out and bring in Brad Stevens.
Local Media and local moguls have smeared Jurich with the Yum! Center and Ramsey.
Our other sports programs are squeaky cliean....Pitino and Men's Basketball has been the problem.
Gut the Men's Basketball program. Go all out and bring in Brad Stevens.
On a fundamental level I agree. But Jimmy94 has a point. Still, while Pitino could argue his dismissal is without cause, UofL could argue it is. By the time this gets to court, a whole lot of stuff will have come out and Pitino will be arguing in a Jefferson County court room in front of Jefferson County jurors that he did nothing wrong - this time. Who knows? He may even be right. He loses. If UofL offers him a million or so, he should take it and go.
On a related note, I really hope Dr. Postel's wife didn't advise him against accepting the interim presidency when it was offered. If so, his life is hell on two fronts right now. No one deserves that.
I'd think slappies would be in their holes today not knowing how where this one ends. You know the Feds want bigger fish than a few assistants and one five-star kid. They can find a bunch of five stars at one place.
"Elite program," my a$$...
We no longer have a top tier BB program for the foreseeable future. A lot of you guys don't really understand what is about to happen with our story BB program. Some of you think oh well fire Rick and Tom every thing is going to be alright. Well no it's not this situation is going to set us back for many years to come. We might never get a great coach again of this caliber to rebuild this program to the elite level. I came up through the Crum era so i've seen the highs and lows now it is going to be nothing but lows. It's truly sad to see our great program just nothing but a shell of shambles.
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No way you still believe Stevens is leaving Boston. Do I need to link you to his roster?
There's no doubt that if Jurich is retained that you guys will have a solid coach though. You have no eveidence to suggest otherwise with his hires.
Mods can we please ban any blue tick that feels the need to post during this period? They are the LAST a$$hats that need to be posting on here right now.
Really how much corruption is going on in the other programs. It’s only been BB. I say get rid of Pitino and be done with it.
He’ll be so far over his head it won’t be funny. Yes he’ll have a good team but don’t expect much.
Stevens is not leaving. They have a stud 25 year old PG and 2 other All Stars on that team, not to mention a bunch of young talent. Boston is set up to be good for a long, long time.
I actually agree with the rest of your post though - Pitino is the common denominator here. Can him, rebuild and move on. No need to can Jurich.
It's not just compliance stuff with the hoops program. Sypher had nothing to do with compliance, but it brought shame to the school.
Think about it, this our coach's second dealing with the FBI during his tenure. How many other schools can claim that?
In the spirit of transparency, I must do as another poster has done on this thread: I never wanted Pitino, do not, and have not ever liked him. I don't deny he's a great coach, etc, but I've never liked or wanted him here.
I'm now to the point that I think there's justifiable reason to say adios.
Think about it, this our coach's second dealing with the FBI during his tenure. How many other schools can claim that?
In the spirit of transparency, I must do as another poster has done on this thread: I never wanted Pitino, do not, and have not ever liked him. I don't deny he's a great coach, etc, but I've never liked or wanted him here.
I'm now to the point that I think there's justifiable reason to say adios.
I posted in another thread that fans of any program shouldn't be relishing the pain of a rival today - this rabbit hole is gonna go really deep. Nobody is safe.
Joon H. Kim, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, made it clear in his news conference that his office is coming for anyone attached to the pay-for-play scandal and will continue to pursue additional indictments.
"It's better for you to call us than for us to be calling you when we're ready to charge you," Kim warned.
FBI assistant director Bill Sweeney doubled down.
"We have your playbook," he said. "Our investigation is ongoing. We are conducting additional interviews as we speak."
Years from now, this day may go down as the most crippling moment in the sport's history.
After Pitino is fired today, it is assumed David Padgett will take over for this year. He will also be down 2 asst coaches. My hope is that UofL can get Scotty Davenport to take over then for the next 3 years to right the ship.
Id like Scotty Davenport. He is just a good guy on the inside. Im not sure he would leave Bellarmine to come to this sh%t show. Even if we dont win a whole lot, Id like to know that we have a clean program. Enough with all of this shady crap! Id also like to see some true student athletes finally come here to Louisville.
I have zero problems with Scotty Davenport. He is a very good basketball coach and more than just a decent person. However, can he recruit top D1 talent?
GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
Maybe maybe not.....who cares? We need to get through all of this and get some good quality men in here to play for the school. I have so much respect for that guy, id be tickled to death if he came here. I bet at the least..(if allowed) we would go to the tourney most years.
Secondly....I have so much respect for the guy that I almost wouldn't wish this mess on him
Pitino is gone. While he may have not known what his assistants were doing in that room he knows the game. The moment a star dropped out of the sky he should have known something was up. He choose to look the other way.
Jurich should go because he backed Pitino. The trust is all but gone in the basketball program and frankly the university. They have to clean house and sadly it was self inflicted..
Jurich should go because he backed Pitino. The trust is all but gone in the basketball program and frankly the university. They have to clean house and sadly it was self inflicted..
You are literally the first person I've ever heard disparage Scotty D. Do you realize what this job looks like the next few years? It's gonna be a mess. You need someone who has integrity but also appreciates the fan base. His enthusiastic personality is what is needed. He would be a bridge to a more permanent solution.
First negative opinion of Scotty Davenport I've ever heard anywhere. Love his positivity.
I'm good with Scotty getting the job. One thing is crystal clear to me this morning. Pitino must not be allowed to keep his job. He may or may not have known about this and both conditions are unacceptable. The 'I didn't know' excuse doesn't fly any longer. Thanks for the memories coach P, but you got to go.
The governor should get involved. He has done a great job of addressing the messes with the past president and foundation that were allowed to run amok.
This is a good post. On top of that, there's too many schools to start giving the death penalty out as punishment. College basketball as a whole is going to suffer with whatever the actual punishment is, and it would be crippled if all of those teams got the death penalty.
Penn State and Baylor covered up terrible sexual criminal acts, which I can only imagine is a felony as well, they're complicit in the actions in a way. They did not receive the death penalty. The crimes in this current situation, they may be felonies, but at least they're relatively victimless crimes and probably actually helped some players' families out even if it was against the rules.
Look at the Wall Street insider trading investigations. They "caught" a few minor players and a couple of whales. They were made examples to discourage others from behaving badly and they didn't try to find all of the inside traders on Wall Street. That is what will probably happen here.
Unfortunately, in this case, it appears the whale they accidentally MAY have caught is Rick Pitino. The Feds need to make an example of someone to discourage the bad behavior and, unfortunately, it looks like it could be Pitino. It probably could have been a dozen other head coaches, but I don't think the Feds want to bring down college sports. What the Feds really want is for companies to stop paying people off the books and college (and AAU) coaches to stop condoning it. I am pretty sure that Adidas, Nike, and UA, if the allegations are correct, are in the process of cleaning up their acts and college and AAU coaches are changing their behaviors.
As for Louisville, Pitino will have to go and probably Jurich. And, there will be some severe penalties for the basketball program. BUT, Louisville has the resources, the fan base, and the tradition to recover from this. If Baylor basketball can recover from the Dave Bliss scandal, which was as bad as behavior could ever get, Louisville will recover.
Unfortunately, in this case, it appears the whale they accidentally MAY have caught is Rick Pitino. The Feds need to make an example of someone to discourage the bad behavior and, unfortunately, it looks like it could be Pitino. It probably could have been a dozen other head coaches, but I don't think the Feds want to bring down college sports. What the Feds really want is for companies to stop paying people off the books and college (and AAU) coaches to stop condoning it. I am pretty sure that Adidas, Nike, and UA, if the allegations are correct, are in the process of cleaning up their acts and college and AAU coaches are changing their behaviors.
As for Louisville, Pitino will have to go and probably Jurich. And, there will be some severe penalties for the basketball program. BUT, Louisville has the resources, the fan base, and the tradition to recover from this. If Baylor basketball can recover from the Dave Bliss scandal, which was as bad as behavior could ever get, Louisville will recover.
Neither were already on probation. UofL currently is on a 4 year probation which was just handed down. That doesn't matter right now because the FBI investigation has not concluded. The last thing any UofL fan needs to be worried about is the death penalty from the NCAA. Fedreal laws have been broken. People are going to be heading to trial and probably prison because the FEDS don't indict and charge without getting convictions very often if ever.
What Boston said. However, I believe this kind of selective enforcement is what will kill the game for most fans. If fans wanted college BB cleaned up, UofL wasn't the program to target.
Welcome to the new college basketball landscape where agents and shoe companies run the show.
Welcome to the new college basketball landscape where agents and shoe companies run the show.
Too many back handed, condescending comments from Lexington School fans on here. If this probe is truly going deeper. I'd be concerned a little if I wore blue. And, I won't get the same opportunity to ruffle your hair and say "oh, you'll be okay, blah, blah, blah." because your site doesn't allow 99% of Louisville fans.
Karma is a bitch, just sayin'. The ice is thin.
Karma is a bitch, just sayin'. The ice is thin.
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