When our acting AD was asked why they made the decision on Mack before the end of the season he responded by saying it was in the best interest to do so, because we could get a jump on other programs looking for a Head Coach. However, last week our acting AD said it would be awhile before a new Coach was hired. This raises several questions, are we waiting for the end of the season because we are going after somebody else’s coach? One would think if KP was the top target we would go ahead and make the hire right of way so he could jump on recruiting. I don’t think it has anything to do with waiting for a President or an AD because that could be awhile. The BOT could make the coaching hire on their own.
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KP may be a top target, but he isn't the only target. All the good coaches are about to make their February run to the conference and NCAAT's, as they should be (both for the right reasons as well as upping their own stock personally).
Unlike football, you can't really do interviews until the NCAAT ends. No one cares about who coaches the Alamo Bowl or whatever, but everyone cares who coaches in the NCAAT because your season is defined by the NCAAT. These coaches may have agents reaching out and communicating interest but interviews can't happen until they lose in the NCAAT (or win the whole thing).
Unlike football, you can't really do interviews until the NCAAT ends. No one cares about who coaches the Alamo Bowl or whatever, but everyone cares who coaches in the NCAAT because your season is defined by the NCAAT. These coaches may have agents reaching out and communicating interest but interviews can't happen until they lose in the NCAAT (or win the whole thing).
Many people thought UofL rushed into getting Mack here without doing their due diligence on him or other candidates. Taking their time this time might be a good thing.
Most of the experts, or so called experts, said Mack was the right hire at the time. It is very hard to predict if a younger coach will be able to handle the type of pressure a program like Louisville puts on them. That is why I think we need to find a more seasoned head coach. Do not hire on someones supposed recruiting skills. I agree taking your time is the right approach.
“Getting a jump on other programs” allowed the AD to say something that sounds positive while not having to say anything that disparaged Chris Mack.
Bottom line was that Chris needed to go because he had lost the team. He chose this year to try to play an uptempo style, then lost his mind when players started jacking up three pointers early in the shot clock. You cant have it both ways, and eventually this team got tired of attempting to figure out what they were supposed to be doing.
Bottom line was that Chris needed to go because he had lost the team. He chose this year to try to play an uptempo style, then lost his mind when players started jacking up three pointers early in the shot clock. You cant have it both ways, and eventually this team got tired of attempting to figure out what they were supposed to be doing.
The difference was we followed Mack’s timeline not ours. He made it clear he wanted the job and there was other issues at play; i.e wife was from Louisville, etc. On paper it looked like a match in heaven but as they say, if it looks too good it probably isn’t.
Now, we need to follow our timeline, which means see how the season plays out, see what coaches are available. If this is KP’s dream job, he’ll still be there at the end of the season.
Wait till late March when seasons start to end, interview the potential candidates, choose the one you think best. DO NOT RUSH!!
You would think if there was interest between Louisville and KP they would have at least reached out to him. However, as of right now they say there has been no contact between the 2 parties. It is not like KP is at a college still playing games he is at the Knicks and the Head Coach has supported KP getting the job.
People are forgetting Mack wanted out too. So saying he was fired just isn’t accurate. Timing was as much on Mack as UofL.
that's all wording, KP may not have been directly contacted but i'm sure his agent has. age old reply, "no i have spoken to them"...but i'm also not telling you that my agent is currently working to close a deal with them but i myself, have not spoken to anyone. that's the standard company line of anyone interested in a job without letting others know they are interested. they told the truth in that they personally haven't spoke, but all their representatives have, and that was not the question.
I have on very good information that two (2), of what I would qualify as the most respected UL alumni, are putting together a partnership designed to create an NIL initiative that will support Kenny Payne‘s ability to rival UK’s recruiting advantage. They have the resources, and they have universal respect in both the business world and the basketball world. I was asked not to mention my source, or the two alumni by name.
I was not in favor of UL hiring KP until I heard this information. If it materializes, it renews a level of optimism for me that I have not felt since Ramsey and TJ left.
I was not in favor of UL hiring KP until I heard this information. If it materializes, it renews a level of optimism for me that I have not felt since Ramsey and TJ left.
Bridgeman and Blue the past week have made their points plain and clear. Blue was on the radio earlier in the week stating getting the local corporate community on board with NIL.
I can't make a logical argument against it, but I really hate all the NIL stuff. It's the wild west, for better or worse. It's the world we live in; Ohio State reported that their football players made $3M in six months (easily verifiable, look it up). Any big program that wants to stay that way, must embrace NIL right away and do what Ohio State did and have a dedicated team that handles that stuff.
Can someone take Katina's book and use the pictures to retro an NIL deal for the players in those photos?
The NCAA, no shocking news here, botched NIL. The genie isn’t going back into the bottle.
Basketball wise Louisville NIL should be incredibly attractive in both mens and womens basketball. Football is going to be more challenging but the recent success says they have a good plan.
This is the reason why I am not worried about Payne. His connections plus NIL could be a incredible combination. If Jurich and Louisville can find a way for reconcile then watch out. I am not advocating for him for AD but at minimum he needs to come back to mend fences.
Basketball wise Louisville NIL should be incredibly attractive in both mens and womens basketball. Football is going to be more challenging but the recent success says they have a good plan.
This is the reason why I am not worried about Payne. His connections plus NIL could be a incredible combination. If Jurich and Louisville can find a way for reconcile then watch out. I am not advocating for him for AD but at minimum he needs to come back to mend fences.
Having Bridgeman, Houston and Blue on board in addition to the support from the Planet Fitness guys sets UofL up nicely.
I watched a video with CJW and he was asked by a reporter if the other players on the team were jealous of HVL having such a big NIL deal. He said there wasn’t any problem and that the other players were happy for her. He also said that the whole team was getting NIL money. I am glad to hear that because that will be the only way we can continue to compete.
nothing has changed, it's just in the open. rex chapman drove an IROC-Z on campus, eric dickerson drove a trans am that a rival school bought him to go there, reggie bush got a hosue adn job for his parents, anthony davis supposed got $250k, leonard hamilton sendign $10k, every good college player everywhere has been paid tons of money, been going on and the best at it are the best teams in their sports. now it's jsut out in the open but nothing has changed, same as it ever was. if you're a player on the tteam jealously is for suckers
When DA transfered to UK from Oh.ST he was driving around Louisville in a New Blue Benz. McGradys interview said all about UK on his visit all the players had top of the line vehicles. LOL but Forde was busy sweating Walker about a used explorer
Kenny Payne, Nolan Smith assistant coach and Milt Wagner assistant to head coach. Mannnnn listen here! It would be wayyyy tooo off the charts 🐔🐔🏀🏀🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾. Plus Nike or Jordan Brand. This would be incredible. He developed and recruited all of Cal’s best teams!!
Dick Vitale: Come on @LouisvilleMBB don’t waste time bring KENNY PAYNE where he belongs they tell me at Churchill Downs he is 10 lengths ahead. But the big ? Can the administration get the deal done - recruiting would go up big time . 5 star talents will arrive!
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, you’re singing the same tune so many other schools have sung. Hire him because he can recruit and bring in so an so as an assistant because he will bring his son with him. Also bring in so and so because he was really good player in college. The only problem most situations like that flop because they can’t coach. Just ask Memphis and North Carolina how that has worked our for them, not so well.
Then your left with hiring a assistant or hiring a mid major coach. No coach from a major winning program is coming here they will just use it to get a raise and extension like Pearl did. So who do you have?
Everybody is saying no Head coach from another school will take the job. How do you know that have you seen a list or are you just listening to the other posters on this board or even worse local news? When Pitino was let go there was a long list of Head coaches from other schools that wanted the job. I would like to see the list instead of keeping just between a few people.
As far as the money people behind the search I know who Bridgeman and Blue are. In regards to Houston are we talking about Alan Houston the former UT graduate?
As far as the money people behind the search I know who Bridgeman and Blue are. In regards to Houston are we talking about Alan Houston the former UT graduate?
That has happened 3 times where a coach has left a major WINNING program to coach a major program that’s losing.
Good for Wade I always liked him and he did good by us, my only thing against him was he left for TN and taking his son Alan with him. Losing both of them cost us another title.
The top x&o guys are retiring, a step away from it, in the NBA, maybe just too old to make a move, or they are in their destination job.
Not sure this new round of HC's are all that impressive with the x&o, they might just be great at relating to "today's player" and have been fortunate to have some early career success. Maybe it's their recruiting and ability to hit the portal that's helped them and not their actual x&o? Hard to say.
You look @ the last 3 big hires, none of them have been a HC anywhere, Duke, UNC, AZ. I'm not saying if that will or won't work, but it's happening.
The NIL and portal give more layers to it.
Not sure this new round of HC's are all that impressive with the x&o, they might just be great at relating to "today's player" and have been fortunate to have some early career success. Maybe it's their recruiting and ability to hit the portal that's helped them and not their actual x&o? Hard to say.
You look @ the last 3 big hires, none of them have been a HC anywhere, Duke, UNC, AZ. I'm not saying if that will or won't work, but it's happening.
The NIL and portal give more layers to it.
Basketball recruiting has changed high school kids have way more options to get to the NBA now other than college.
Roy williams was Dean smiths assistant, Denny Crum was John widens assistant. All of them are in the hall of fame
Kenny recruited every one of Cal’s studs. He coached those teams and developed each of those NBA players on Kentucky. Devin Booker and Anthony Davis all say Kenny wa d the reason they became great!! And there are many more.. Kenny is connected to all of the Nike circuits, close friends with World Wide Wes, and will bring Nike or the junk man brands to our school. Finally… which will also help us the recruit the nations best!!
I think the bottom line is the entire culture of college basketball has changed. Power has shifted to the players, parity is absolutely real, and our fans are aware of that but aren't applying that knowledge to our situation. It's almost as if we're accidentally pretending we're better than all these other programs.
We aren't. We simply lucked into Rick over a decade ago given his availability. HOF coaches simply aren't in the candidate pool annually. If the Cards didn't luck into Rick, it's possible this program would have seen anywhere from 3-5 additional job searches. We. Got. Lucky.
Tom Izzo and Mark Few were also assistants. Guess what, Dean Smith himself didn't have any HC experience prior to his career at UNC.
Lloyd for AZ also.
Experience to be a HC has been debunked too many times for it to be the deal breaker some fans wanna make it.
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