What is wrong with some of our fanbase

[REDFISTFURY3]

Nothing wrong with liking someone better. But too see this fanbase rooting for Rick too succeed while the BB program school and the same fans that are on his side suffer. Why even go through this hate you have for this new coach and style . Just become a Iona fan. It's like they really have forgotten why we are at this point. I can never ever wish for his success again he was a helluva motivator and x and o's guy .However he didn't mind the shop and screwed us over time and time again. So their is no way i could bash a new coach that has too follow a hall a famer with all the bs hanging over them . This fanbase needs too see and really understand the position we are presently in. And Mack really does things the correct way in recruiting which in this day and time we all see is such not the norm. Why those other schools still are getting talent they are still playing the money bag game. I don't blame em . But this is a change of the guard and eventually was going too happen rather on Ricks accord or what transpired.

The sad part these same fans will see the results of Ricks transgressions when we are sitting out 2 consecutive tourneys . And Mack says screw this the fans don't appreciate me keeping this program afloat and relevant during this mess. And moves on because another school will have no problem taking him. Cards fans be careful what you wish for. And those that say any coach would take the job probably but nothing is guaranteed.

A smart as hell HOF coach got so desperate for players he hired Jordan Fair even after he was told by people not to do it.

I just had too rant because it just frustrated me seeing all these media and fans on social media praising Rick. And those same one's bashing Mack "cause and effect " is real here !

 

[nccardfan]

I think you are confusing the two. Pitino is simply a basketball genius. I love watching his teams play. As a player, I bet every player who played for him realizes he’s a great coach and motivator. I am a fan of his basketball coaching ability. As a person, I don’t agree, accept or approve of his transactions. I don’t want him back as a coach. I’ve move on.

My opinions on Mack have nothing to do with Rick Pitino. I make judgements about Mack based on what I see from his teams. I don’t compare him to Pitino or Crum for that matter because it is worthless energy. As a fan of U of L basketball for 46 years, I do make comparisons to the brand of basketball I am used to seeing on the court.

I understand making a break from Pitino and maybe his ties to former coaches and protégés but I think we took it too far by selecting a coach that has no semblance of the basketball we are accustomed to. Nothing wrong with venting about that. Coach Mack is our coach and I fully accept that but just as I criticize Crum in his late years (game had passed him by) and Pitino for his non acceptance of responsibility, I can also make statements about Mack’s coaching. Covid aside, injuries, poor talent, etc are all part of coaching and he’s paid a good bit. Just like Krapthorpe, I have seen enough of his coaching to know what to expect.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

I think you are confusing the two. Pitino is simply a basketball genius. I love watching his teams play. As a player, I bet every player who played for him realizes he’s a great coach and motivator. I am a fan of his basketball coaching ability. As a person, I don’t agree, accept or approve of his transactions. I don’t want him back as a coach. I’ve move on.

My opinions on Mack have nothing to do with Rick Pitino. I make judgements about Mack based on what I see from his teams. I don’t compare him to Pitino or Crum for that matter because it is worthless energy. As a fan of U of L basketball for 46 years, I do make comparisons to the brand of basketball I am used to seeing on the court.

I understand making a break from Pitino and maybe his ties to former coaches and protégés but I think we took it too far by selecting a coach that has no semblance of the basketball we are accustomed to. Nothing wrong with venting about that. Coach Mack is our coach and I fully accept that but just as I criticize Crum in his late years (game had passed him by) and Pitino for his non acceptance of responsibility, I can also make statements about Mack’s coaching. Covid aside, injuries, poor talent, etc are all part of coaching and he’s paid a good bit. Just like Krapthorpe, I have seen enough of his coaching to know what to expect.

The point i'm making has nothing to do with Mack's style vs Ricks its what Rick did to this program. What man or woman roots for the person who destroys their relatonship no one with sense. G o on social media twitter etc U of L fans are actually rooting for him and at the same time making disparaging comments on their present coach.IMOP that makes absolutely no sense as i stated people can do as they please. And if one chooses to make any sense of this it's their right. I said nothing bad of his coaching just it's time too move on.

 

[rockycard]

This thread sucks!!!!

 

[nccardfan]

The point i'm making has nothing to do with Mack's style vs Ricks its what Rick did to this program. What man or woman roots for the person who destroys their relatonship no one with sense. G o on social media twitter etc U of L fans are actually rooting for him and at the same time making disparaging comments on their present coach.IMOP that makes absolutely no sense as i stated people can do as they please. And if one chooses to make any sense of this it's their right. I said nothing bad of his coaching just it's time too move on.

Regardless of what you think, it’s Andre McGee that hurt the program. Pitino was guilty of letting his guard down and putting too much trust in a former player. I think you could put any coach in that situation. Unfortunately it was our coach. He was still ultimately responsible. I think if he said so from the outset and suspended himself, he might still be here. Can’t look back though. Move on.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Regardless of what you think, it’s Andre McGee that hurt the program. Pitino was guilty of letting his guard down and putting too much trust in a former player. I think you could put any coach in that situation. Unfortunately it was our coach. He was still ultimately responsible. I think if he said so from the outset and suspended himself, he might still be here. Can’t look back though. Move on.

Am i missing something here?

 

[PHCARD]

Nothing wrong with liking someone better. But too see this fanbase rooting for Rick too succeed while the BB program school and the same fans that are on his side suffer. Why even go through this hate you have for this new coach and style . Just become a Iona fan. It's like they really have forgotten why we are at this point. I can never ever wish for his success again he was a helluva motivator and x and o's guy .However he didn't mind the shop and screwed us over time and time again. So their is no way i could bash a new coach that has too follow a hall a famer with all the bs hanging over them . This fanbase needs too see and really understand the position we are presently in. And Mack really does things the correct way in recruiting which in this day and time we all see is such not the norm. Why those other schools still are getting talent they are still playing the money bag game. I don't blame em . But this is a change of the guard and eventually was going too happen rather on Ricks accord or what transpired.

The sad part these same fans will see the results of Ricks transgressions when we are sitting out 2 consecutive tourneys . And Mack says screw this the fans don't appreciate me keeping this program afloat and relevant during this mess. And moves on because another school will have no problem taking him. Cards fans be careful what you wish for. And those that say any coach would take the job probably but nothing is guaranteed.

A smart as hell HOF coach got so desperate for players he hired Jordan Fair even after he was told by people not to do it.

I just had too rant because it just frustrated me seeing all these media and fans on social media praising Rick. And those same one's bashing Mack "cause and effect " is real here !

NC, do yourself one hell of a favor and get off those sites or block all the instigators called the media. Turn off the sports radio too. For all you know the so called UofL fans are blue fans in disguise. The turmoil is not worth it. I miss UofL update tweets and Kelly Dickey stats only, except for the trash that chimed in.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

NC, do yourself one hell of a favor and get off those sites or block all the instigators called the media. Turn off the sports radio too. For all you know the so called UofL fans are blue fans in disguise. The turmoil is not worth it. I miss UofL update tweets and Kelly Dickey stats only, except for the trash that chimed in.

Hey i'm a twitter guy . Naw they are defetinelty alleged U of L people ie Blankenbaker has been the worse.

 

[CommodoreCard]

The blame falls on Pitino and only on Pitino. It is royally going to suck watching him coach in the NCAA Tournament the next few seasons while we are banned from playing for his carelessness 5-6-7+ years ago. I, for one, won’t be rooting for him.

 

[dramser12]

I think you are confusing the two. Pitino is simply a basketball genius. I love watching his teams play. As a player, I bet every player who played for him realizes he’s a great coach and motivator. I am a fan of his basketball coaching ability. As a person, I don’t agree, accept or approve of his transactions. I don’t want him back as a coach. I’ve move on.

My opinions on Mack have nothing to do with Rick Pitino. I make judgements about Mack based on what I see from his teams. I don’t compare him to Pitino or Crum for that matter because it is worthless energy. As a fan of U of L basketball for 46 years, I do make comparisons to the brand of basketball I am used to seeing on the court.

I understand making a break from Pitino and maybe his ties to former coaches and protégés but I think we took it too far by selecting a coach that has no semblance of the basketball we are accustomed to. Nothing wrong with venting about that. Coach Mack is our coach and I fully accept that but just as I criticize Crum in his late years (game had passed him by) and Pitino for his non acceptance of responsibility, I can also make statements about Mack’s coaching. Covid aside, injuries, poor talent, etc are all part of coaching and he’s paid a good bit. Just like Krapthorpe, I have seen enough of his coaching to know what to expect.

The local obsession with Ricky P is disgusting

 

[PHCARD]

The blame falls on Pitino and only on Pitino. It is royally going to suck watching him coach in the NCAA Tournament the next few seasons while we are banned from playing for his carelessness 5-6-7+ years ago. I, for one, won’t be rooting for him.

And who is to blame for this system? NCAA, all the way.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

The blame falls on Pitino and only on Pitino. It is royally going to suck watching him coach in the NCAA Tournament the next few seasons while we are banned from playing for his carelessness 5-6-7+ years ago. I, for one, won’t be rooting for him.

LOl just watch when that day comes and "personally i pray that it doesn't" . However human nature is not hard to predict the same love affair presently with Rick with these fans. Will turn to sadness , blame and outright anger towards him. I would bet anyone 1,000 on it!

 

[CommodoreCard]

And who is to blame for this system? NCAA, all the way.

Bingo!

 

[PHCARD]

LOl just watch when that day comes and "personally i pray that it doesn't" . However human nature is not hard to predict the same love affair presently with Rick with these fans. Will turn to sadness , blame and outright anger towards him. I would bet anyone 1,000 on it!

Is it really so wrong of me to miss the basketball style I so enjoyed for years but still be ticked at the man for making bad coaching hires. His personal mistakes? It’s not a stone I will cast.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Is it really so wrong of me to miss the basketball style I so enjoyed for years but still be ticked at the man for making bad coaching hires. His personal mistakes? It’s not a stone I will cast.

Like i said its nothing wrong with not liking Macks style. I myself just cannot root nor see how anyone can clamor for someone who has done what he has. If he was so great why is he not here anymore ? Then you guys wouldn't be having to deal with Mack's system . I dont care who was going to be coach after him those that really loved his system would not like any other coaches either. Changing lanes a bit i feel for whomever follows Calipari their is no way any coach will replicate those drafts picks in the beginning.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

I'm going too say this go and watch some videos of Mack's Xavier teams those squads got up and down scored points. He is really trying to get those type players and if you follow recruiting here . He has lost out on some guys that seem to be game changers . He had a few studs on his teams that . He just hasn't had here yet.

He had some serious games with Villanova , however the Wildcats talent for awhile was insane at the guard position.

 

[PHCARD]

Like i said its nothing wrong with not liking Macks style. I myself just cannot root nor see how anyone can clamor for someone who has done what he has. If he was so great why is he not here anymore ? Then you guys wouldn't be having to deal with Mack's system . I dont care who was going to be coach after him those that really loved his system would not like any other coaches either. Changing lanes a bit i feel for whomever follows Calipari their is no way any coach will replicate those drafts picks in the beginning.

Hell Cal can’t replicate it now.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Im not rooting for RP. I’m very angry with the NCAA system that allowed/knew that pay for play was going on for years. It took the FBI to get involved. Then the FBI did a horrible job on the case.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Hell Cal can’t replicate it now.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Im not rooting for RP. I’m very angry with the NCAA system that allowed/knew that pay for play was going on for years. It took the FBI to get involved. Then the FBI did a horrible job on the case.

Yelp it's a money thing NCaa has been in the bed with Nike a whole story on it's own. When Rick got here id wished he went with Nike at least then we be in the same bed as all the other cheats. That Addidias deal put u of L in the crosshairs.

 

[PHCARD]

I'm going too say this go and watch some videos of Mack's Xavier teams those squads got up and down scored points. He is really trying to get those type players and if you follow recruiting here . He has lost out on some guys that seem to be game changers . He had a few studs on his teams that . He just hasn't had here yet.

The only time I watched Xavier was against the Bearcats. I don’t recall being bored. Maybe the slug fest was the entertainment? 🙃
I like Mack. I like his character. I want him to succeed here. I just don’t understand what and why I’m seeing. I truly know sanctions, covid sucks and injuries have harmed the product.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

The only time I watched Xavier was against the Bearcats. I don’t recall being bored. Maybe the slug fest was the entertainment? 🙃
I like Mack. I like his character. I want him to succeed here. I just don’t understand what and why I’m seeing. I truly know sanctions, covid sucks and injuries have harmed the product.

1st year is what it is for any coach that's really a feel out process finding out what you have and need going forward.

2nd year he did a pretty darn good job we were nbr 1 , a team of players that really didn't fit his system working in his first recruits. Ricks guys just wanted to shoot the 3 thats cool but when it counted they disappeared doing that style . I never been a fan of just hoisting the 3 ball game. Cold games always nbite you in the but in tourneys. And we see how the season ended for everybody.

3rd year OMG i don't even need to go their.

So when has he truly had a chance to get on solid ground ?

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Against the teams that matter with about the same amount of time with the exception of UK 3 years. Mack is doing darn good for what he has to deal with . We are in good hands people.


Mack vs UK 1-3
Rick vs UK 6-14

Mack vs Duke 3-2
Rick vs Duke 3-4

Mack vs NC 2-5
Rick vs NC 2-7

Mack vs Vir 1-4
Rick vs Vir 1-4

Mack Acc Tourney 1 -2
Rick Acc Cant find it i think 1 or 2 wins


Too be honest Mack should be 3-0 vs UK ot game and the complete FT anomaly and Nwora houdini act did that game in. Vir stupid Deng play ,

 

[nccardfan]

The only time I watched Xavier was against the Bearcats. I don’t recall being bored. Maybe the slug fest was the entertainment? 🙃
I like Mack. I like his character. I want him to succeed here. I just don’t understand what and why I’m seeing. I truly know sanctions, covid sucks and injuries have harmed the product.

That’s an intriguing word, entertainment. If I wanted a coach to put on a hoodie, gold chain and do a rap song, I would get Mack. If I wanted to win an NCAAT game, I would pick Pitino 10 times out of 10. (Mike drop)

 

[CardX]

Pitino is a bad ass coach, maybe one of the GOAT. I enjoy watching his teams play, even when he was in Lexington. He’s a basketball aficionado. Things sure did turn for the worse here, but he wasn’t intentionally doing anything wrong. He trusted the wrong people. When you’re at a job for so long, cruise control can set in. Who knew McGee was a nerd perv trying to act cool? Can’t blame Rick for that. I, for one, am happy for him.

 

[shadow force]

I don't wish bad things on Pitino but I'm not cheering for him right now either. I wish he was still UofL's coach WITHOUT all the scandals that happened on his watch but that's not reality. He is/was a helluva a coach. I can look back fondly at the good times while he was here, but I can also do that without the rose colored glasses magnifying ONLY the good things.

I've heard some say that Pitino wouldn't have lost to Minny in the first round like Mack did. That may or may not be true, but then again, I never thought Pitino would lose in the first round to freaking California and Morehead in two consecutive years either. Or the meltdown against MSU in the Elite 8. Or during his last season here he literally forgot to put Mangok back in while Michigan's big guy was cleaning our clock.

I can look back on the Championship and 2 Final Fours he had here fondly but that doesn't erase all the bad that occurred during his time either. At least not to me. And I don't forget that the reason Pitino is no longer here is ultimately his own doing, and that the reason UofL has been under this dark cloud for the last several years is because of him too.

Like I said before, I don't know if Mack is the guy for the future of UofL but he is the guy right now. He definitely isn't infallible but he also isn't responsible for the mess he inherited either.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Salud

"I can look back fondly at the good times while he was here, but I can also do that without the rose colored glasses magnifying only the good things.

I've heard some say that Pitino wouldn't have lost to Minny in the first round like Mack did. That may or may not be true, but then again, I never thought Pitino would lose to freaking California and Morehead in two consecutive years either. I"

 

[KozmasAgain]

I enjoyed the Pitino years overall but Rick had some bad years when we were expecting great things. One year that stands out to me was the year we lost to Morehead State in the NCAA tournament. CRP let MSU spend a week with Louisville practicing and learning our system and then they beat us in the tournament. Then the year we lost to all our rivals and the fact that we really sucked when it came to beating sUcK during the regular season.
I wonder now that CRP is at Iona and he is considered such a great coach why did Iona suck during the regular season. Like I said I have nothing against CRP and I appreciate most of things he did for our program but there were years where we underachieved. I think people are using the small success that Iona is having to bash our current coaching staff. Let’s face it CRP is coaching in a conference without many hall of fame coaches he should dominate that conference.

 

[Thecycle27]

The Pitino talk was guaranteed when he was hired by Iona. They will end up dominating that league if he stays. He is that good of a coach. He had to go. The fact that he can coach while Louisville is still dealing with the NCAA mess he created is the issue.

People comparing Mack to Crum and Pitino are silly. Neither one had to deal with what Mack is dealing with in his first 3 years. The only difference is Mack doesn’t have the coaching history to legitimize him. Fans aren’t sure about him which is fair.

Mack does have to do a better job of making sure the product he is producing is what he is promising. They aren’t tough. Being manhandled in the post, missing free throws, blowing big leads, getting blown out and missing layups at a incredible rate is not tough. It is soft. Being tough is in his mission statement, his teams have been soft. That may seem really petty but to me that is the most concerning issue. His program is built on toughness but he isn’t producing tough teams.

That has to change or at least get that message out of your marketing campaign.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Iona has won the MAAC tourney inclucding this year 5 years in a row . They have pretty much been a contender or winning that conf for awhile. Rick didn't do anything special that hasn't been happening prior too him arriving. However since it's Rick it gets more fanfare than it deserves. Heck Only Sienna he beat had a winning record 12-5 the other 3 teams were all below .500 .

 

[nccardfan]

Iona has won the MAAC tourney inclucding this year 5 years in a row . They have pretty much been a contender or winning that conf for awhile. Rick didn't do anything special that hasn't been happening prior too him arriving. However since it's Rick it gets more fanfare than it deserves. Heck Only Sienna he beat had a winning record 12-5 the other 3 teams were all below .500 .

Not exactly true. Nobody played basketball in 2020. Iona got a new coach in Pitino and he had to assembled a new roster, install his own system and win a conference tournament. Notable achievement. Oh and I forgot, his players hustle and they play exciting basketball.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

2016	Iona	79–76	Monmouth	A. J. English, Iona
2017	Iona	87–86 OT	Siena	Jordan Washington, Iona
2018	Iona	83–71	Fairfield	Zach Lewis, Iona
2019	Iona	81–60	Monmouth	Rickey McGill, Iona
2020	Siena[a]	Canceled due to the coronavirus pandemic	Boardwalk Hall (Atlantic City, New Jersey)[7]
2021	Iona	60–51	Fairfield	Asante Gist, Iona
2022	–	–	–

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Not exactly true. Nobody played basketball in 2020. Iona got a new coach in Pitino and he had to assembled a new roster, install his own system and win a conference tournament. Notable achievement. Oh and I forgot, his players hustle and they play exciting basketball.

I stand corrected on 2020 but the rest is as stated.

 

[PHCARD]

Hey i'm a twitter guy . Naw they are defetinelty alleged U of L people ie Blankenbaker has been the worse.

Oh, I know you are a Twit guy. My nickname for them, not you. You like to copy the sports media idiots (majority of them) over onto this site.

 

[gocds]

I could never nor will I ever root for “dick” Pitino again. He allowed his “I’m so superior” attitude to allow McGee to bribe and payoff young recruits that screwed UofL basketball for years to come. Yes UofL basketball is bigger than that ego maniac asshole.

GO CARDS!!!

 

[gocds]

And who is to blame for this system? NCAA, all the way.

The NCAA is only partially to blame - “dick” Pitino’s massive ego is the huge part of the problem.

GO CARDS!!!

 

[CardX]

Iona has won the MAAC tourney inclucding this year 5 years in a row . They have pretty much been a contender or winning that conf for awhile. Rick didn't do anything special that hasn't been happening prior too him arriving. However since it's Rick it gets more fanfare than it deserves. Heck Only Sienna he beat had a winning record 12-5 the other 3 teams were all below .500 .

You can hate Pitino all you’d like, but trying to diminish his coaching prowess, especially with the covid pauses he successfully handled, makes you look foolish. He’s a HOF coach.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

You can hate Pitino all you’d like, but trying to diminish his coaching prowess, especially with the covid pauses he successfully handled, makes you look foolish. He’s a HOF coach.

The Cardinal's Beak

@RU4UofL

Louisville Twitter celebrating the guy that set our program back while condemning the guy hired to clean up his mess up. Some of you are wackos...

2:44 PM · Mar 13, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/RU4UofL/status/1370823131519188993/retweets

 

[Knucklehank1]

I think Pitino is a coaching genius. The time he spent here was almost always entertaining. His obliviousness to what was happening within his staff was administrative malpractice. He needs to be appropriately sanctioned by the ncaa just like UofL will be. Frankly the NCAA continues to look foolish when these head coaches involved in the FBI scandal coach teams in the tourney.

 

[TheRealVille]

Nothing wrong with liking someone better. But too see this fanbase rooting for Rick too succeed while the BB program school and the same fans that are on his side suffer. Why even go through this hate you have for this new coach and style . Just become a Iona fan. It's like they really have forgotten why we are at this point. I can never ever wish for his success again he was a helluva motivator and x and o's guy .However he didn't mind the shop and screwed us over time and time again. So their is no way i could bash a new coach that has too follow a hall a famer with all the bs hanging over them . This fanbase needs too see and really understand the position we are presently in. And Mack really does things the correct way in recruiting which in this day and time we all see is such not the norm. Why those other schools still are getting talent they are still playing the money bag game. I don't blame em . But this is a change of the guard and eventually was going too happen rather on Ricks accord or what transpired.

The sad part these same fans will see the results of Ricks transgressions when we are sitting out 2 consecutive tourneys . And Mack says screw this the fans don't appreciate me keeping this program afloat and relevant during this mess. And moves on because another school will have no problem taking him. Cards fans be careful what you wish for. And those that say any coach would take the job probably but nothing is guaranteed.

A smart as hell HOF coach got so desperate for players he hired Jordan Fair even after he was told by people not to do it.

I just had too rant because it just frustrated me seeing all these media and fans on social media praising Rick. And those same one's bashing Mack "cause and effect " is real here !

Oh please. What happens if a Mack assistant breaks a rule down the line? Not blame Mack?

Look, Pitino had to go because there was just too much pressure to clean house and as good as a coach that he is, I agreed there was no real option. But I still don't believe he was guilty of anything but ignorance of the culture around him and his inability to manage it.

What he did for UofL in his tenure kept the hoops program from turning out like Georgetown, Houston and Indiana after Coach Crum left. Louisville basketball kept its blue blood status due to Rick Pitino.

Now I'm not going to get into the stripper scandal or the FBI sting because it's been debated plenty enough but a lot of Cards fans still appreciate Rick Pitino and the great teams we had with him. I think it's cool to see him with Iona, proving once again just how great of a head coach he is.

I'm not whining about the Cards current status which is mostly due to the pandemic and injuries. I like coach Mack but the jury is still out if he's worthy of the Louisville head coaching legacy that Crum and Pitino added to the program. I hope he is.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Somebody show me one video or written words with Rick apologizing to the faithful U of L fans city. Future players dieectly That are going to bear the sanctions . I posted his Iona post game conf were he admits he should be been fired. However he had to throw in his self adulation of innocence . He has not a freaking care in the world for what happens to U of L going forward .I hope he gets the doors blowed off him as a 16 seed .

 

[Thecycle27]

I think it is ok to acknowledge 2 things about Pitino

1) He is a great coach.
2) He should of been fired.

The NCAA is the problem. The fact Pitino Will Wade, Bill Self and Sean Miller are still coaching is a ridiculous. Even Smart for LSU, who took took a strong ass offer is playing. Even the guy Fair was in the room talking about paying is playing at FSU.