UofL @ UK postponed. Covid issues within the program.
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This was inevitable. Once Malik was held out because of COVID, it seemed there would be no way to avoid some kind of outbreak within the program. I believe over 20 games were cancelled this weekend. I would expect the count to climb this week.
Pro teams being forced to cancel, or rewrite their protocols, or both.
Good time to take a closer look at HULU, HBO MAX, etc.
Pro teams being forced to cancel, or rewrite their protocols, or both.
Good time to take a closer look at HULU, HBO MAX, etc.
Official Statement:
LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The University of Louisville men's basketball team has paused all team-related activities indefinitely due to multiple positive COVID-19 tests among individuals within the program, UofL Interim Director of Athletics Josh Heird announced on Monday.
As a result, the Cardinals' scheduled Wednesday (Dec. 22) game at Kentucky has been postponed. Officials from Kentucky and Louisville will monitor opportunities in which the teams can reschedule the annual rivalry game.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The University of Louisville men's basketball team has paused all team-related activities indefinitely due to multiple positive COVID-19 tests among individuals within the program, UofL Interim Director of Athletics Josh Heird announced on Monday.
As a result, the Cardinals' scheduled Wednesday (Dec. 22) game at Kentucky has been postponed. Officials from Kentucky and Louisville will monitor opportunities in which the teams can reschedule the annual rivalry game.
Everything I'm reading on this Omicron thing, I have a feeling the whole country is going to be at herd immunity by the end of January. Hopefully it is as mild as i keep reading it is, and this variant ends the pandemic just like the weaker variants ended the 1918 flu. We're not going to be able to vaccinate, mask, and social distance our way out of this, those things just spread out the inevitable.
UK has scheduled WKU as a replacement. Link to WDRB story below.
www.wdrb.com
UK to host WKU at Rupp Arena on Wednesday after game with UofL postponed
Kentucky will host WKU at Rupp Arena, announced by UK coach John Calipari on his radio show.
We’re 61% fully vaccinated. We won’t be reaching herd immunity that soon and the way we’re going another variant will develop.
There was a joke on Twitter earlier today that WKU was not at risk because no Louisville player was closer than 6 feet to a shooter while playing defense! In all seriousness, WKU has to be concerned about players breathing heavily in close proximity to multiple players that have tested positive.
What I meant is, it looks like we're all (vaxxed or not) going to have to get Omicron and recover from it for real herd immunity to happen. "Recovering" will mean different things for different people, many may not even know they have it or think they just have a cold. I am hoping/praying this new variant is as mild as we're hearing (US just had its first death yesterday, an unvaxxed person in Texas), and with the way it is spreading we all have a date with it and that date is probably in the next month.
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The problem with that way of getting herd immunity is that the virus mutates in the infected human host. So yes we will gain herd immunity, but it will be to a virus that has already mutated into something that we don’t have immunity to, and there’s no guarantee that the mutated virus will be milder than the previous one.
I think the main issue is yes, even vaxxed one can still be infected and although the likelihood of serious illness or death is low, the problem is I can still transmit to an “unvaccinated” person who according to some statistics has a 20% higher chance of dying from Covid..
I'm not an epidemiologist and I'm just (thoughtfully, I hope) reading stuff like the rest of you are. Apparently, from what I read, the 1918 Spanish Flu mutated and burned out as a dominate yet less severe variant - which is what it looks like this Omicron is doing. I work in a hospital and see all the graphs and the spread of this new Omicron is INSANE yet it doesn't really seem to make anyone all that sick. Let's hope/pray that history is repeating itself.
Mail in voting has been around for 200+ years. Why would any true American not want to support a system where all Americans vote?
I love the convenience of mail in voting and use it quite often. I’m just not willing to stick my head in the sand and ignore the potential for voter fraud that can occur with that option, especially when election officials implement that option without proper planning.
The former President wasted a ton of time and government resources, in addition to filing 60+ lawsuits, in an effort to establish voter fraud and irregularities. At the end of the day, no creditable evidence of voter fraud was found. And that includes several states that only allow voting by mail. Nothing to see here and time to move on.
I also am not an epidemiologist but I think we are finally in the end stages of Covid being a significant danger to most people. Like the 1918 virus it is mutating to a less-lethal form. That doesn't mean some form of Covid isn't going to be around for a long time. But for most people it's not going to be a big deal.
With that being said it will still be a problem for those with compromised immune systems. My wife has been in and out of chemotherapy the last four years. As a result her immune system is shot and we have been warned to isolate as much as possible. Hopefully the new Pfizer pill to treat those who contract Covid, and provides protection from serious Covid side-effects, will be effective for those like my wife. Then we can rejoin the world. I'm still hopeful I can use my women's basketball tickets in late February and March.
With that being said it will still be a problem for those with compromised immune systems. My wife has been in and out of chemotherapy the last four years. As a result her immune system is shot and we have been warned to isolate as much as possible. Hopefully the new Pfizer pill to treat those who contract Covid, and provides protection from serious Covid side-effects, will be effective for those like my wife. Then we can rejoin the world. I'm still hopeful I can use my women's basketball tickets in late February and March.
Let me know when the potential for fraud turns into actual fraud and then we can start worrying.
That’s all we do in America anymore - we create solutions in search of problems because that’s way easier than solving actual problems.
The problem I have with your way of thinking is that, for reasons of national security, we don’t actually investigate claims of voter fraud. Instead, we have the losing side claim fraud and the winning side quickly respond with “nothing to see here, let’s move along”.
And since the winning side is in power, the winning side wins that argument, and no claims of voter fraud ever get investigated thoroughly. Then the election results very quickly become certified (because they have to be, since the winners take office 2 months after the election) with the same people certifying the results that set the system up - the same people who have a vested interest (continued employment) in claiming that there was no widespread voter fraud under their system.
So since claims of voter fraud are never going to be investigated in the same methodical and meticulous way that (for instance) a murder will, it’s even more important to not have a poor plan that does not include proper oversight and fraud prevention.
As one example, the most egregious planning mistake I remember hearing about in the 2020 election was the decision to send mail in ballots to every registered voter, regardless of whether they wanted one or not. That decision is at least understandable considering we were in the middle of a pandemic, but due to manpower limitations several states did so without ensuring that those registered voters were still located in the state.
Did that naive planning action result in voter fraud? Certainly. But what about “widespread voter fraud”?
Nothing to see here. Let’s move along.
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One of the fundamental flaws in your analysis is that national elections are controlled by each state. In many cases, the alleged fraud in 2020 occurred in states with Republican governors and/or legislatures. Those states audited the results and found no fraud and federal judges (most of whom were appointed by Republican Presidents) universally rejected Trump’s assertions. Furthermore, during the 60 period after the election, and despite Trump’s pressure to find fraud, his attorney general and the Department of Justice found none. Trump just can’t accept losing and keeps trying to perpetuate the “big lie”.
I understand your concern Push. Especially if you read some of the stuff on the internet claiming hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in ballots being counted last year. However, the truth is that every state had significant safeguards in place to prevent fake ballots from being counted. In Ohio I worked for my county during the last election. There aren't many Democrats in my county and the state required an equal number of Democratic and Republican workers so I received a request from my county election board to help because I'm a Democrat. Ohio requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot from the county election board. The voter also has to submit some form of identification which matches his/her registration record (normally driver's license number). Upon receipt of such a request the board mails the ballot to the voter at their registered address and electronically removes the ability of the voter to vote at the polls on election day or before. Even if the voter doesn't mail in the ballot s/he can't vote at the polls. If the voter showed up at the polls they would have been instructed to fill out a provisional ballot. That ballot was not entered into the electronic machine at the polls but was sent directly to the election board at the end of the day. Upon receipt the provisional ballot would only be counted if a Democrat and Republican election official both agreed the absentee ballot that had been mailed to the voter had not been returned. If the mail-in ballot had been returned the voter would have had the opportunity to challenge it. At the polling place where I worked on election day there was only one voter who showed up who was listed as having requested a mail-in ballot. That voter admitted he had requested such a ballot but claimed he had not mailed it in. He submitted a provisional ballot which I assume was eventually counted. So in order to commit a significant fraud on an Ohio election the perpetrators would have to come up with thousands of registered voters they knew would not show up on election day. They would have to have voter identification numbers such as driver's license numbers, from those voters and they would have to intercept the ballots before they got to the voter. Ohio had a distinct advantage over other states because Ohio law allows the processing of mail-in ballots before election day. Most states, including some of the states in controversy during the last election like Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania require that officials wait until after the polls close on election day to start processing mail-in ballots. Interestingly some states last year, most notably Pennsylvania, tried to change their law before the election knowing that large numbers of voters would use the mail-in process because of Covid. In Pennsylvania Republicans blocked the Secretary of State from permitting early processing of mail-in ballots. As a result all of these ballots had to be processed, by both Republican and Democratic officials, after the election. This process is time-consuming and explains why the tabulation process took so long last year. There have been internet reports that voting officials in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin counted thousands of fake mail-in ballots. All three of those states have rules that a Republican and a Democrat working together must process each mail-in ballot so if the internet reports were correct it would have required the cooperation of Republicans. In Philadelphia there were internet reports that Republicans were not being allowed into facilities where mail-in ballots were being processed. In fact the Republicans who were denied entry were not the Republicans who process the votes and who were already present and participating in the tabulation but were self-appointed "monitors" who only showed up after the counting had started.
The only state that was close that Biden won where ballots were mailed to all registered voters was Nevada. Even there, to commit a large-scale fraud an organized group would have to know which registered voters were no longer living at their registered address, intercept those ballots, know and use personal identification numbers which were required to be on the ballot, and then return the ballot via the mail.
In my opinion mail-in ballots are necessary because in-person voting can be difficult to conduct expeditiously on one day. There is no national law on how to run a polling place. Most states, like Ohio, require the county to conduct and pay for elections. If everyone is required to show up at the polls to vote on one day the waits to vote would be lengthy, especially in those counties without the resources to pay large numbers of election officials and operate large numbers of polling places. Most people don't get election day as a paid holiday or have employers who would allow multi-hour time off to vote. Tuesdays are work days for most people. I'm not sure you could call the U.S. a democracy if the only people who vote are those who have the ability to wait in line for long time periods.
Sorry for the lengthy post but I think it's important.
Wow…impressive overview. I always thought the state of Kentucky only allowing one voting day and it only being from 6am-6pm is ridiculous.
A couple of really good comprehensive posts in reply to this one but, I’ll add one or two more items. I suppose it’s all in the eye of the beholder but, I don’t consider mailing ballots to registered voters - regardless of whether they asked for one or not - to be an egregious mistake. I am for more participation by voters - not less - and the reality is that if a voter received a ballot despite having no intention on voting - they simply could throw it away. I would guess that an equal number of uninterested voters in both sides of the aisle ultimately received ballots that they didn’t request.
I’ll also take issue with the notion that elections and or allegations of voter fraud aren’t legitimately investigated. As another poster highlighted, there were several states - Arizona for example - that conducted comprehensive audits and despite there being a desperate desire on the part of those who initiated them to find fraud on behalf of Biden - there were only minor examples of fraud for trump. They actually determined that Biden received more votes than originally thought. And, let’s not forget trump’s commission on the 2016 election - that operated under and was financed by his administration trying to prove that Clinton received 3-5M illegal votes. That group was quietly disbanded when they came up with zero evidence.
This situation boils down to one person - trump and his inability to either be a good winner or, a good loser. Sadly, it has infected a decent percentage of people who before him - were mostly rational.
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Ohio was not one of the states where any significant fraud was suspected, and if you were watching the election results, you could see that by 10 PM on election evening the polls in the very large State of Ohio had their counts completed.
Conversely, the events that took place in the large urban communities in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Minnesota could not complete their counts until the early AM hours following elections day. It was no coincidence that the strong Democratic controlled precincts in the cities of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit, Minneapolis and Atlanta were unable to report the results until well after the other communities had submitted their tabulations. If you follow the traditional election activities in those cities, you would appreciate just how immune they are to their respective State Government election rules and regulations.
Mail-in balloting has been around for decades, but the numbers in the 2020 election exceeded the capacity of either those urban communities, or their respective State Election Monitoring Systems to qualify with any degree of accuracy. The fraud that occurred in the 2020 election was decided in the large urban precincts in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
If you voted for Biden, I am confident that you will never accept the notion that our 2020 election was affected by fraudulent mail-in balloting. However, for those of us who voted for Trump will remain convinced that as of 10 PM on election eve, Trump was re-elected. Between 10 PM and 5AM the next day there were unprecedented ballots counted in those aforementioned cities that have never been subjected to an audit.
I for one cannot say with any degree of certainty that Trump actually won, as there is no forensic evidence to support my suspicion. However, anyone who claims there no fraud, or insufficient fraud that would change the result ….. are equally unqualified to make their claim; as there was never any bilateral auditing performed in those questionable precincts.
This country is divided, and it will remain so until there are sufficient provisions in our electoral process where every US citizen’s vote is counted once, and can be validated regardless of mail-in or in person.
Ohio was not one of the states where any significant fraud was suspected, and if you were watching the election results, you could see that by 10 PM on election evening the polls in the very large State of Ohio had their counts completed.
Conversely, the events that took place in the large urban communities in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Minnesota could not complete their counts until the early AM hours following elections day. It was no coincidence that the strong Democratic controlled precincts in the cities of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit, Minneapolis and Atlanta were unable to report the results until well after the other communities had submitted their tabulations. If you follow the traditional election activities in those cities, you would appreciate just how immune they are to their respective State Government election rules and regulations.
Mail-in balloting has been around for decades, but the numbers in the 2020 election exceeded the capacity of either those urban communities, or their respective State Election Monitoring Systems to qualify with any degree of accuracy. The fraud that occurred in the 2020 election was decided in the large urban precincts in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
If you voted for Biden, I am confident that you will never accept the notion that our 2020 election was affected by fraudulent mail-in balloting. However, for those of us who voted for Trump will remain convinced that as of 10 PM on election eve, Trump was re-elected. Between 10 PM and 5AM the next day there were unprecedented ballots counted in those aforementioned cities that have never been subjected to an audit.
I for one cannot say with any degree of certainty that Trump actually won, as there is no forensic evidence to support my suspicion. However, anyone who claims there no fraud, or insufficient fraud that would change the result ….. are equally unqualified to make their claim; as there was never any bilateral auditing performed in those questionable precincts.
This country is divided, and it will remain so until there are sufficient provisions in our electoral process where every US citizen’s vote is counted once, and can be validated regardless of mail-in or in person.
The reason Ohio's votes were tabulated so quickly was the fact that Ohio was allowed to process mail-in votes before election day. Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin could not. They had to wait until the polls closed to even begin opening the envelopes. Add to that the fact that large numbers of people, especially in urban areas, voted by mail because of Covid. Urban areas in all states, including Ohio, voted overwhelmingly for Biden. The urban vote for Biden and Trump in places like Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee was not significantly different than it was in places like Cleveland and Houston, which are in states Trump won. It takes a long time to process mail-in ballots. Pennsylvania's polls didn't even close until 8pm. Do you expect them to have all of their mail-in votes processed and counted by 10pm or to just not count votes they couldn't process in the first two hours? Ohio was pretty much done by 10pm because most mail-in votes had already been processed when the polls closed at 7:30. If you were watching election results that evening Biden had an early lead in Ohio of around 5%. That's because most of the early reported results were mail-in ballots from urban centers. When the other votes were reported Biden ended up losing by about 9%, the same percentage by which Clinton lost the state in 2016.
The election fraud conspiracy advocates make a big deal about the votes that were being tabulated overnight in urban areas after the 2020 polls closed. But they ignore that many areas where Trump won overwhelmingly were also tabulating mail-in votes overnight and were reporting numbers in his favor. Those numbers couldn't keep up with the urban numbers because there aren't as many voters in those areas. The fraud advocates make outlandish claims that cities were reporting vote totals in excess of registered voter numbers when the reported vote totals (public records in all states) show that is not true. And they ignore that there are election officials from both parties present at all tabulation facilities.
As another poster noted, Trump was in office for almost three months after the election. Do you really believe his attorney general chose to ignore a fraud that would have overturned the results of the election? Do you believe that federal judges, appointed by Trump and other Republican presidents, chose to ignore it when they rejected lawsuits challenging the votes brought throughout the country? Do you really believe that Republican governors and secretaries of state in Georgia and Arizona allowed widespread voter fraud to occur in their states to elect a Democrat president? What about Fox News? They would have been all over a fraud on the scale that would have overturned the election.
The election fraud conspiracy advocates make a big deal about the votes that were being tabulated overnight in urban areas after the 2020 polls closed. But they ignore that many areas where Trump won overwhelmingly were also tabulating mail-in votes overnight and were reporting numbers in his favor. Those numbers couldn't keep up with the urban numbers because there aren't as many voters in those areas. The fraud advocates make outlandish claims that cities were reporting vote totals in excess of registered voter numbers when the reported vote totals (public records in all states) show that is not true. And they ignore that there are election officials from both parties present at all tabulation facilities.
As another poster noted, Trump was in office for almost three months after the election. Do you really believe his attorney general chose to ignore a fraud that would have overturned the results of the election? Do you believe that federal judges, appointed by Trump and other Republican presidents, chose to ignore it when they rejected lawsuits challenging the votes brought throughout the country? Do you really believe that Republican governors and secretaries of state in Georgia and Arizona allowed widespread voter fraud to occur in their states to elect a Democrat president? What about Fox News? They would have been all over a fraud on the scale that would have overturned the election.
Fred - you have some strong knowledge here. I think a really important piece you noted is that “The urban vote for Biden and Trump in places like Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee was not significantly different than it was in places like Cleveland and Houston, which are in states Trump won”.
Yes, I do believe that, in the interests of national security, the winners of the election would and routinely do work very hard to suppress any and all evidence of widespread voter fraud.
I voted for Trump twice, but due to the way he acted to losing, both in his refusal to accept that he lost after exhausting all of his appeals and also what he did to incite violence on Jan 6th 2021, I will never vote for him again.
I make the above statement to point out that the opinions I stated above have nothing to do with support for Trump. It has everything to do with evidence of very poor planning by a number of states in conducting the 2020 election. And the election officials in those states planned poorly regardless of whether they had an R or a D next to their name.
I voted for Trump twice, but due to the way he acted to losing, both in his refusal to accept that he lost after exhausting all of his appeals and also what he did to incite violence on Jan 6th 2021, I will never vote for him again.
I make the above statement to point out that the opinions I stated above have nothing to do with support for Trump. It has everything to do with evidence of very poor planning by a number of states in conducting the 2020 election. And the election officials in those states planned poorly regardless of whether they had an R or a D next to their name.
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My big fear is that people won't trust the process. Yes people make mistakes and governments make more than their share. Things could have been done much more efficiently last year. But last year's election wasn't that close when you look at history. In my lifetime the elections in 60, 68, 00, 04 and 16 were all significantly closer. I'm thankful Mike Pence was Vice President last year and rejected calls by Trump to declare Trump the winner when Pence provided over the January 6 certification of the electoral vote. Vice Presidents Nixon, Humphrey, Mondale, Quayle, and Gore all presided over the same process when they were on losing national tickets. Like Pence they all performed their Constitutional duties. Pence is even more impressive because none of the other five I just named had a crazed mob outside urging that they be hanged.
I am a Democrat Push but I'm not one of those who think all Republicans are evil and all Democrats are saints. I've voted for Republican presidential candidates including Bob Dole who recently died. I actually think there is significant evidence that Democrats in Illinois engaged in a fraud in 1960 which resulted in JFK winning that state. He still would have won the election without Illinois but he might have lost the popular vote. I also think the allegations that Republicans stole the 2000 election in Florida are ludicrous. While I'm not a fan of the Electoral College I reject those Democrats who asserted that Trump was an illegitimate president because he lost the popular vote in 16.
My big fear is that people won't trust the process. Yes people make mistakes and governments make more than their share. Things could have been done much more efficiently last year. But last year's election wasn't that close when you look at history. In my lifetime the elections in 60, 68, 00, 04 and 16 were all significantly closer. I'm thankful Mike Pence was Vice President last year and rejected calls by Trump to declare Trump the winner when Pence provided over the January 6 certification of the electoral vote. Vice Presidents Nixon, Humphrey, Mondale, Quayle, and Gore all presided over the same process when they were on losing national tickets. Like Pence they all performed their Constitutional duties. Pence is even more impressive because none of the other five I just named had a crazed mob outside urging that they be hanged.
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