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[REDFISTFURY3]

@jakeweingarten
Jake Retweeted Jake

Louisville just offered three-star junior Ja’Dun Michael during his unofficial visit today, a source told @UofLRivals.
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Hofstra
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Middle Tennessee State MEDIUM
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Old Dominion
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Providence
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[ShortCreek]

Trust the staff.

 

[zipp]

A great coach can win with his players or yours. And this program wasn't built on five-star kids. Not sure why that's gonna change...

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

It's obvious some folks just don't understand talent . Mack wants some 4 and 5 star talent . he came to U of L expecting to be able too at least have 1 or 2 Bentley's in the driveway. not Honda Accords If that's what he wanted he would have stayed at Xavier. A little elite talent with some good coaching goes a long way. Rick got away with inferior talent because he was just a plain helluva coach. Mack is good but i don't think he is RIck level. Heck we in the situation we are in now cause Rick realized going forward he needed some NBA level talent. Kids today want to know they are going to a program that gives the impression they have a shot at the league.

I 'm a person that wants top talent anybody else can be happy with lesser . Just my opinion ! And i guarantee when or if we are fielding less talented teams people will be on on here complaining about recruiting watch and see.

ake‏Verified account@jakeweingarten
Four-star senior Gethro Muscadin is focused on four schools including: Kansas, Louisville, Texas Tech, and Kansas State. He doesn’t currently have any remaining visits but has visited all four schools. | Update
This player plays right here in the city of Louisville at aspire

 

[ShortCreek]

Our freshman class is loaded, the current high school recruits see that. We’ll be fine IMO. Recruiting for most programs is cyclical.

 

[PHCARD]

@jakeweingarten
Jake Retweeted Jake

Louisville just offered three-star junior Ja’Dun Michael during his unofficial visit today, a source told @UofLRivals.
CHOOL
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INTEREST
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VISITS TO
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SCHOOL OFFER

Appalachian State MEDIUM
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NONE

DePaul MEDIUM
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Elon
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Hofstra
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Middle Tennessee State MEDIUM
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North Carolina Greensboro
MEDIUM
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North Carolina State MEDIUM
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Old Dominion
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NONE

Providence
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South Florida MEDIUM
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Texas A&M MEDIUM
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Redfist, where did you pick up this crap piece? I've looked on twitter and didn't see it. I even went to our Rivals home page and there is a couple Jake W written pieces on this kid. But it's certainly not this crap stuff?????

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Redfist, where did you pick up this crap piece? I've looked on twitter and didn't see it. I even went to our Rivals home page and there is a couple Jake W written pieces on this kid. But it's certainly not this crap stuff?????

Well i guess Rivals is putting out bogus crap . All you have to do is look at his rivals profile its all right their for the world to read.

 

[zipp]

It's obvious some folks just don't understand talent . Mack wants some 4 and 5 star talent . he came to U of L expecting to be able too at least have 1 or 2 Bentley's in the driveway. not Honda Accords If that's what he wanted he would have stayed at Xavier. A little elite talent with some good coaching goes a long way. Rick got away with inferior talent because he was just a plain helluva coach. Mack is good but i don't think he is RIck level. Heck we in the situation we are in now cause Rick realized going forward he needed some NBA level talent. Kids today want to know they are going to a program that gives the impression they have a shot at the league.

I 'm a person that wants top talent anybody else can be happy with lesser . Just my opinion ! And i guarantee when or if we are fielding less talented teams people will be on on here complaining about recruiting watch and see.

ake‏Verified account@jakeweingarten
Four-star senior Gethro Muscadin is focused on four schools including: Kansas, Louisville, Texas Tech, and Kansas State. He doesn’t currently have any remaining visits but has visited all four schools. | Update
This player plays right here in the city of Louisville at aspire

Why would Mack "come to U of L expecting to be able too at least have 1 or 2 Bentley's in the driveway. not Honda Accords"? Is that a quote, or did you conclude that somehow?

I don't recall Mack ever saying he needed to step up the level of our recruiting. And we can count the number of 5-star kids we've recruited the last ten years on one hand...

 

[Shonda97]

Why would Mack "come to U of L expecting to be able too at least have 1 or 2 Bentley's in the driveway. not Honda Accords"? Is that a quote, or did you conclude that somehow?

I don't recall Mack ever saying he needed to step up the level of our recruiting. And we can count the number of 5-star kids we've recruited the last ten years on one hand...

He did say at Louisville they feel like they can go after and get guys that they couldn’t at Xavier....which he showed in his first years class. 1 high 4/5 five star a class is needed to be elite in college basketball

 

[PHCARD]

Well i guess Rivals is putting out bogus crap . All you have to do is look at his rivals profile its all right their for the world to read.

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REDFISH, I finally found that Rivals site. I didn't realize it was a junior & 2021. Sorry, I really thought your copy was from some mocking social media stuff. I can't get interested that far out. In this world things change in a year or two, especially in our UofL world.

 

[DonkeyDwayne]

@jakeweingarten
Jake Retweeted Jake

Louisville just offered three-star junior Ja’Dun Michael during his unofficial visit today, a source told @UofLRivals.
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VISITS TO
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DePaul MEDIUM
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Elon
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Hofstra
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Middle Tennessee State MEDIUM
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North Carolina Greensboro
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North Carolina State MEDIUM
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Old Dominion
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Providence
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South Florida MEDIUM
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Texas A&M MEDIUM
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You truly have no idea how recruiting works.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

You truly have no idea how recruiting works.

You want to debate you will lose against me in recruiting beleive me

 

[DonkeyDwayne]

This kid reminds me of A. Sims.

 

[PHCARD]

This kid reminds me of A. Sims.

The only UofL large professional framed, signed picture on my Cards wall is Alvin Sims. I loved that kid back in the day.

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

The only UofL large professional framed, signed picture on my Cards wall is Alvin Sims. I loved that kid back in the day.

Alvin works for my brother

 

[zipp]

He did say at Louisville they feel like they can go after and get guys that they couldn’t at Xavier....which he showed in his first years class. 1 high 4/5 five star a class is needed to be elite in college basketball

"We have the best fans in basketball!"

Not to pick on Mack, but I'm pretty sure I've heard him say that too...

 

[DonkeyDwayne]

You want to debate you will lose against me in recruiting beleive me

I really don’t care.

 

[Louis III]

Sounds like Gethro dropped TT from his interest list.

 

[BPGhost]

Why would Mack "come to U of L expecting to be able too at least have 1 or 2 Bentley's in the driveway. not Honda Accords"? Is that a quote, or did you conclude that somehow?

I don't recall Mack ever saying he needed to step up the level of our recruiting. And we can count the number of 5-star kids we've recruited the last ten years on one hand...

Maybe because Louisville is a top 5 program? Just because your “Master” wasn’t able to sign top talent (without cheating) doesn’t mean Mack won’t be able to.

 

[zipp]

Maybe because Louisville is a top 5 program? Just because your “Master” wasn’t able to sign top talent (without cheating) doesn’t mean Mack won’t be able to.

The Master didn't have those problems until he started listening to his biological clock, tried to shortcut the process, listened to clueless millennials, and thought he could do what everyone else does.

If Mack is a good coach, he doesn't need to do it either. Nor can he do it safely anyway...

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

The Master didn't have those problems until he started listening to his biological clock, tried to shortcut the process, listened to clueless millennials, and thought he could do what everyone else does.

If Mack is a good coach, he doesn't need to do it either. Nor can he do it safely anyway...

Lack of elite talent was why Cal owned him What i'm learning from certain fans is that their to old now to realize elite talent is needed. Some people just refuse to change with the times are to slow to adapt . That was a big problem with Crum over time it passes the best bye..

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Podcast todays Bobby V show @ around the 2:51pm hour Crawford and him discuss Rick and Macks and Cals recruiting .

 

[zipp]

Lack of elite talent was why Cal owned him...

That's the little brother stuff talking that you're carrying around. My advice is get rid of it.

...What i'm learning from certain fans is that their to old now to realize elite talent is needed. Some people just refuse to change with the times are to slow to adapt . That was a big problem with Crum over time it passes the best bye...

I'm not too old to recognize that "elite talent" ain't what Pitino's best teams had. The pursuit of "elite talent" is what brought him down.

And Crum didn't fall off because he lacked "elite talent". He lost in part because of the lack of ANY talent. And he stopped trying, or everyone else was trying harder.

U of L basketball was not built on a foundation of 5-star talent. Understand and embrace who you are...

 

[BPGhost]

The Master didn't have those problems until he started listening to his biological clock, tried to shortcut the process, listened to clueless millennials, and thought he could do what everyone else does.

Lol - those seem odd steps for someone who is a “master” to take. “Masters” don’t need to cheat to stay relevant, they don’t need to cheat to win and, they don’t need to take advice from nor cede authority to, subordinates because they’re unable to get it done.

 

[BPGhost]

U of L basketball was not built on a foundation of 5-star talent. Understand and embrace who you are...

This is a bit of a canard. UofL basketball’s was “built” prior to 5 star rankings being a thing. That said - the list of elite talent that came through the program from the mid 70s to when pitino got here is long and quite “embraceable”.

Perhaps it’s you with the lack of understanding.

 

[PHCARD]

BP, I believe your fav song is "I Can't Help Myself".

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Sounds like Gethro dropped TT from his interest list.

Kansas is the money pick

 

[BPGhost]

BP, I believe your fav song is "I Can't Help Myself".

Actually it’s “Check Yo Self” - lol.

 

[zipp]

This is a bit of a canard. UofL basketball’s was “built” prior to 5 star rankings being a thing. That said - the list of elite talent that came through the program from the mid 70s to when pitino got here is long and quite “embraceable”.

Perhaps it’s you with the lack of understanding.

McDonald's AAs have been around a long time--more than four decades. That's about 25 kids on the two rosters, compared to 25-30 five-star kids at the top of a Rivals 150 list. How many of those kids has U of L landed in 40+ years?

And how many of those kids were central to Final Four teams?

Weak analysis on your part.

Lol - those seem odd steps for someone who is a “master” to take. “Masters” don’t need to cheat to stay relevant, they don’t need to cheat to win and, they don’t need to take advice from nor cede authority to, subordinates because they’re unable to get it done.

The Master earned that distinction well before he started listening to stupid people...

 

[Knucklehank1]

The NBA is going to drop the one and done rule so I think the real challenge is going to be pursuing top flight talent that isn’t quite good enough to make the immediate leap to the league.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

UofL McDonald's AA History - started just after Dr. Dunkenstein!

https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/mcdonalds.html

Recruiting Gurus weigh in... I believe Griff, Scooter, Forrest, and Kimbro were all considered top 3 guys nationally - maybe a few were #1?

1977 - 0
1978 - Eaves, Scooter
1979 - 0
1980 - 0
1981 - Wagner, Forrest
1982 - Thompson
1983 - Sumpter
1984 - Walls
1985 - Ellison, Kimbro
1986 - 0
1987 - Smith, Harmon
1988 - 0
1989 - Should have been Alan Houston OMFG!!!
1990 - Morton, Cade (never made it to campus), (Rozier also via transfer a year later)
1991 - Legree
1992 - 0
1993 - Osborne
1994 - 0
1995 - 0
1996 - 0
1997 - 0
1998 - 0
1999 - 0
2000 - 0
2001 - Hurt, Cisse (never made it to campus believe he was a Card could be wrong)
2002 - 0
2003 - Padgett (via transfer a year later)
2004 - Telfair (never made it to campus)
2005 - Johnson (never made it to campus)
2006 - Clark
2007 - 0
2008 - Samuels
2009 - Siva
2010 - 0
2011 - Blackshear, Behanan
2012 - 0
2013 - 0
2014 - 0
2015 - 0
2016 - King
2017 - Bowen
2018 - 0
2019 - Williamson

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

When reviewing the McD AA history, a few things stand out to me...

That drought from 1994 - 2000 - coincidentally right around the time the UofL program hit the skids. Could even reach back to 1991-2000... Legree transfers, Osborne plays what, 2 years, then bounces? So really, that entire decade was awful recruiting, and also a down decade for UofL basketball.

1986 Team - 3 of the 5 starters were highly recruited players. Kimbro was the 6th man and another top shelf recruit.

I counted 29 McD AA in 40ish years. A few guys never made it, a few transferred, a few under-achieved..

I will add, 1 guy led to a massive off court problem !!!!

I dunno. Those elite Crum teams had some top recruits it can't be denied I don't think.

The issues in the 90s - I think it's fair to say the drop in recruiting impacted the results of the program.

Pitino's title team - 3 of 5 starters McD AA.... Siva, Blackshear, Behanan.

 

[BPGhost]

McDonald's AAs have been around a long time--more than four decades. That's about 25 kids on the two rosters, compared to 25-30 five-star kids at the top of a Rivals 150 list. How many of those kids has U of L landed in 40+ years?

And how many of those kids were central to Final Four teams?

Weak analysis on your part.

The Master earned that distinction well before he started listening to stupid people...

As Hop's post points out - the period of time beginning with Griff's signing (counting him as a McD AA) and running thorough the year after the 1986 title, UofL had multiple McD AA's on their roster that were central to that run of excellence.

Also, thanks for proving my point - "masters" (yours or others) don't listen to stupid people on how to conduct their business. That Pitino did, means he was never a "master" at all.

Lol - "weak analysis"...

 

[REDFISTFURY3]

Kansas is the money pick

Four-star senior Gethro Muscadin has committed to Kansas, a source confirmed to @Stockrisers. Said this morning on the radio, he was leaning towards Kansas. Now makes it official. Was originally slated to announce on November 1st.