The 20 teams

[KozmasAgain]

I read an article that was written regarding a merger between the B1G Conference and the ACC. They were trying to determine what teams would be selected if this scenario took place.
Here is their list:
Clemson Virginia Tech
Ohio State. North Carolina
Penn State. Nebraska
Michigan. Louisville
Norte Dame. Minnesota
Wisconsin. Indiana
Iowa. Virginia
Michigan State. N C State
Florida State. Pittsburgh
Miami. Purdue/Duke
They selected these schools based on their brand recognition and the revenue generated by their athletic departments ( in no particular order).

 

[LeFors4Ever]

The Big Ten won't dump a single school, they are in the better position so they'd be asking teams to come to them rather than a merger. The Big Ten makes plenty of money and has a lot of good programs. So there'd have to be 6 ACC teams if it went to 20.

FSU, Clemson, Miami, & Virginia Tech are the 4 guaranteed to make the jump. I'd say North Carolina would be the next team with their football being good at this moment and their basketball brand.

There'd probably be a fight for who is next. Syracuse has powerful alumni and the NY market. Duke basketball alone make their rights fees more attractive as they can provide higher rated content outside of football season. Pittsburgh is a big market and they're decent in sports. Boston College has always made a jump, but do they matter anymore?

I think we'd have a good shot with the Louisville market and overall success of our athletics department and we have some big time donors too.

Or maybe some other Big-12/ACC teams merge
Baylor, Kansas, OK State, Iowa State, Louisville, WVU, Kansas State, Texas Tech, NC State, Ga Tech, TCU

That would be a better conference than the Pac-12.

 

[Ara64]

Whoever put that list together must have just had a big shot of Kentucky Bourbon. Maybe they envision them giving ND a similar deal as the ACC? I could see ND leading the remaining teams to form their own Independent League. Play for their own National Champion.

 

[KozmasAgain]

It’s a changing world and the old rules don’t apply, ESPN is driving the bus because they are paying the big bucks. If a school doesn’t want to go by the new rules then they will probably have to get off the bus. Notre Dame starting their own independent conference and having their own playoff would be really lame and would not generate enough interest for big money. I like ND and hope they end up in the ACC with us. I think the upcoming changes will have a negative effect on ND if they stay independent and the new landscape goes to multiple Super Conferences. If the merger between the ACC and the B1G happens nobody will be kicking anybody out, the selected schools will be leaving to form a new conference and the uninvited schools will be left behind

 

[Ara64]

In the end ND will do what's in their best interest. I was speaking outrageously because nobody knows what's about to happen. Do not underestimate the loyalty of the fans of the Fighting Irish around the world. We will follow ND were ever they play.

 

[KozmasAgain]

I read an article regarding conference realignment and the article said, there are 3 things Notre Dame wants. The 3 things are a broadcast partner ( which they have with NBC), a league with Olympic sports, ( which they have with the ACC ) and access to the playoffs. The playoff access is the thing that could force ND into a conference.

 

[2330859]

I doubt the ACC or the BIG will lose any members. I do expect WVU to be reviewed carefully by the ACC as candidate for addition. Exiting the NCAA a will start to gain momentum. The 2020 CBS story with the 65% survey of P5 members wanting out of the NCAA is evidence of how deep the movement is. NIL a makes this very real.

 

[KozmasAgain]

The reason football is the driving force for everything right now is because the NCAA does not get any money from football they get their money from basketball revenue. If the P5 programs leave the NCAA then they can keep their money and football won’t be the only driving force for conference expansion or inclusion. Louisville is one of the top 5 revenue producing basketball programs in the country. This would make Louisville as attractive to a conference as Alabama is.

 

[Louisvillian]

Jay Bilas is suggesting that the ACC should be proactive in trying to merge with the SEC and said that with the natural rivalries (UofL-UK, Georgia-Ga Tech, Clemson-SC, Florida-FSU etc), it should be attractive for both conferences.

It also sounded like he was worried about ACC schools being left out in the cold.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Jay Bilas is suggesting that the ACC should be proactive in trying to merge with the SEC and said that with the natural rivalries (UofL-UK, Georgia-Ga Tech, Clemson-SC, Florida-FSU etc), it should be attractive for both conferences.

It also sounded like he was worried about ACC schools being left out in the cold.

They'd never do that for football. They wouldn't want to add any more "dead weight" programs like sUcks and Vandy to the conference or programs that just aren't football powers. They only want money and big time matchups. Clemson and FSU are the only ones for football they'd take. Now Miami, Virginia Tech, and UNC have some selling points as far as adding a new state and decent brands and fan bases.

And we shouldn't want to jump in the SEC in my opinion. Look at sUcKs, forever they're just going to be the most northern SEC team in a state that produces 0 football talent and have to fight for Ohio State's scraps. We immediately would go into that conference knowing we'd never compete ever again. Think about the lower end of their conference with teams like South Carolina and Tennessee who recruit in the top 25 and produce plenty of NFL talent. Now that the SEC east will be broken up, sUcKs little model of getting the middle tier teams and cupcake non conference games will be over.

I wouldn't want to be apart of that super-conference. Keep us in a conference where we belong, where we can compete against great teams, but not have to know that Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, LSU, & Auburn and others will just be another world ahead of us.

 

[KozmasAgain]

I agree with you on going to a new conference and never being heard from. I could actually see that happening to Texas and the danger for them in the SEC is that they won’t be able to strong arm anyone. I really like the ACC so the best thing to hope for is that it stays together.

I really hope for the Super Conferences to happen and one of them is the ACC. Then the Super Conferences pull out of the NCAA and form their own system. I know it would suck for all the schools outside of the new system and they would probably fall to a division 2 type status. I am just thankful we are where we are right now.

 

[Ara64]

Last year ESPN wrongly said that ND saved the 2020 college football season. I get the feeling that ND just might save college football before this deal is over. ND will do what's best for ND. Nobody will bully ND into doing anything else. We have interesting days ahead.

 

[billoliver40]

Notre Dame is a power in itself.
It is easy to forget that school presidents are in charge of multi BILLION dollar businesses. Except for a select few, they could do away with NCAA sports and not blink.
Notre Dame is one of those.

 

[billoliver40]

As far as realignment, I think the eventual goal is 4 super football conferences: north, south, Midwest, far west. 20 teams each.
Everyone else will be in a smaller subdivision.

Basketball and baseball may stay the same, but eventually the football money will be in those 4 divisions.

 

[2330859]

I like Jay Bilas, but I question his motivation to suggest an ACC merger with the SEC ……. Jay is a basketball guy first, and he knows better than anyone “the ACC is in basketball, what the SEC is in football”.

I remain confident the ACC and the BIG are both solid in every respect and have absolutely no motivation to evolve beyond their own existing parameters.

Those aforementioned in-state rivalries are special because they are inter-conference games.

 

[Rollem Cards]

I like Jay Bilas, but I question his motivation to suggest an ACC merger with the SEC ……. Jay is a basketball guy first, and he knows better than anyone “the ACC is in basketball, what the SEC is in football”.

I remain confident the ACC and the BIG are both solid in every respect and have absolutely no motivation to evolve beyond their own existing parameters.

Those aforementioned in-state rivalries are special because they are inter-conference games.

This would make the $EC best at both.

 

[EKYCard643]

Why. Would. The. SEC. Merge. With. Anyone?

The SEC is the king conference right now - far and away the king.

Why would they merge with the ACC? To the SEC the ACC is more trash than its worth to them. Merge with the ACC to get Clemson and FSU? Then you have to take BC, Cuse, Duke, Ga Tech, Wake, UVA....All schools that would fall behind every current SEC member outside of Vandy as far as quality football programs.

 

[KozmasAgain]

With the alliance of the B1G, ACC and PAC12 the SEC is no longer king they are just a player like everyone else.

 

[Rollem Cards]

Why. Would. The. SEC. Merge. With. Anyone?

The SEC is the king conference right now - far and away the king.

Ego and greed.

They have been the demise of many people and many things.