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Statistically, how bad is the defense? NC2A stats:

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Just how bad is the defense? Through 7 games. NCAA stats:

Scoring Defense:
#70
Passing yards allowed:
#93
Red Zone defense:
#75
First down defense:
#64
Rushing defense:
#57
3rd down conversion defense:
#52
4th down conversion defense:
#106
Passes intercepted:
#129
Total defense:
#73
Offense?
One stat:
Red Zone Offense:
110th
 
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We're definitely struggling but we have faced great QB's so far. Not counting the FCS team, the weakest QB we have faced is Riley Leonard at ND. The dude from Jax State is killing it.

And we still have Castellenous at BC and Kubinek at Clemson and Holston with Pitt. We don't see below average QB's until the last two games against Stanford and UK.

Compare that to Indiana for example. Trade schedules with them we're undefeated and they have three losses.

It's so ironic how IU got out of playing UofL during the season they happen to have their best team in decades.

Brohm better get used to this though and find a defense that can handle it.
 
The debate for me is can Louisville find a staff and players to have a good defense. I honestly don’t know. What I do know is this currently staff isn’t getting it done against good offenses and teams that play with pace. The data is pretty clear they haven’t been good on defense.

A bad defense can artificially inflate offensive numbers. Brohm has good offenses. They haven’t executed in key spots. The offense had a chance to win the SMU game but the defense was not good. It was awful for that matter.
 
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As @Rollem Cards said or implied in another thread, this is the choice we made hiring a good head coach from the offensive side of the ball. We experienced it with Petrino as well, and the opposite with Strong.

The defense will only be as good as the D coordinator under Jeff. For anyone with short memories, we also played the revolving door game with coordinators in the past and without much success…
 
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I agree it is a slippery slope. My issue isn’t that Miami controlled the line of scrimmage that can happen against talented lines like Miami’s. Can’t scheme your way out of that. My issue is the defense scheme isn’t good and execution of their scheme is disorganized leading to blown coverages and assignments in their 2nd year.

I am not sure you can continue with this defensive staff because they haven’t proven the ability to develop and execute a defensive plan against the better offenses.
 
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Obviously y’all have forgotten Petrino’s last year and all of Satt’s when teams had their way with us, UK putting up 50 and 60 with ease.
Nobody is arguing that English needs his walking papers which hopefully he’ll be given at the end of the year.
 
Obviously y’all have forgotten Petrino’s last year and all of Satt’s when teams had their way with us, UK putting up 50 and 60 with ease.
Nobody is arguing that English needs his walking papers which hopefully he’ll be given at the end of the year.
you have also forgotten, that outside of failing against uk which are bad memories, satt's last year, the defense lead the nation with 52 sacks i believe and only UGA had more wins against top 25 teams. if satts had simply beaten kentucky his tenure would have looked different. but he didn't, nor did petrino, nor has brohm. it's really the only game that matters the rest of the season.
 
Obviously y’all have forgotten Petrino’s last year and all of Satt’s when teams had their way with us, UK putting up 50 and 60 with ease.
Nobody is arguing that English needs his walking papers which hopefully he’ll be given at the end of the year.
Defense has always been an issue for Louisville because of talent level along the line. Their best defenses had really good edge rushers and they were always really aggressive. I don’t think they will ever recruit at a level that they can just rush 4 and expect to get pressure. I really think they thought they were good and deep enough this year to play straight up.

The issue all year is they don’t do anything exotic and they are still lost. In the Miami game it led to couple blown coverages and the huge 3-17 run. That is coaching.
 
Amazingly, the one post by CFD is 100% accurate; UL is one bad call per game away from being undefeated.

ND, SMU and Miami are all 3 very good football teams with QBs that are as talented as any in the country.
 
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What I find most disconcerting is with my own eyes I thought we had an outstanding defense and what I compare that against is what I saw at different points with other defenses we had at Louisville--Strong's last two years and the D lines and secondaries we had in Petrino's first and second stints. On a sheer numbers level with what you'd project into the NFL I perceived Brohm's statement that this is the deepest defensive line he';s ever coached with and English's statement that this is the deepest secondary he's ever coached--and he was on Lloyd Carr's last staff at Michigan. I don't perceive this staff as one that needlessly hypes it's talent. Something has clearly gone off the rails.

One facet of our defense has become a pretty obvious target and that is Corey Thornton--who has dropped three INTs in two games. With that oven mitt if your choice is throwing at Quincey Riley or throwing at Thornton and the worst thing that can happen is an imcompletion? You're going at Corey all day every day. It's a shame because he's a good football player.
 
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There was a play towards the end of the game when we were trying to stop Miami and get the ball back. I think it was 3rd and long,Ward breaks coverage and takes off and as he crosses the line of scrimmage there's one of our guys waiting to make sure he doesn't throw to the back out of the backfield.
Whoever that guy was just stands there,frozen 10 yards away as Ward runs untouched for big yardage. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Pursue the ball and stop him we were screaming 😱 I agree something off the rails here.
 
you have also forgotten, that outside of failing against uk which are bad memories, satt's last year, the defense lead the nation with 52 sacks i believe and only UGA had more wins against top 25 teams. if satts had simply beaten kentucky his tenure would have looked different. but he didn't, nor did petrino, nor has brohm. it's really the only game that matters the rest of the season.
Satterfield never had us anywhere near a ACC championship game and Brohm did it in his first season with a last minute roster. Come on man geez
 
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Defense has always been an issue for Louisville because of talent level along the line. Their best defenses had really good edge rushers and they were always really aggressive. I don’t think they will ever recruit at a level that they can just rush 4 and expect to get pressure. I really think they thought they were good and deep enough this year to play straight up.

The issue all year is they don’t do anything exotic and they are still lost. In the Miami game it led to couple blown coverages and the huge 3-17 run. That is coaching.
The defensive line has been Louisville’s strength for years. Linebackers and secondary being able to tackle one on one and cover passes has been its glaring weakness. Linebacker is especially a weakness. We don’t get studs on that position.
 
There was a play towards the end of the game when we were trying to stop Miami and get the ball back. I think it was 3rd and long,Ward breaks coverage and takes off and as he crosses the line of scrimmage there's one of our guys waiting to make sure he doesn't throw to the back out of the backfield.
Whoever that guy was just stands there,frozen 10 yards away as Ward runs untouched for big yardage. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Pursue the ball and stop him we were screaming 😱 I agree something off the rails here.
Ward could have did that all game but he opted to throw the ball. You do realize when you’re in man to man defense that all eligible receivers run the secondary and linebackers off meaning their backs are turned away from the QB which creates huge running opportunities? This is precisely why the running QB’s are in greater demand than pocket passer’s. It’s not easy folks so we should stop acting like we have the answers and let Brohm coach the team. They’ve lost to 3 very good football teams and we’re in it until the end. And I thought I was impatient smh.
 
Amazingly, the one post by CFD is 100% accurate; UL is one bad call per game away from being undefeated.

ND, SMU and Miami are all 3 very good football teams with QBs that are as talented as any in the country.
Thanks for the vote of confidence…I think
 
Ward could have did that all game but he opted to throw the ball. You do realize when you’re in man to man defense that all eligible receivers run the secondary and linebackers off meaning their backs are turned away from the QB which creates huge running opportunities? This is precisely why the running QB’s are in greater demand than pocket passer’s. It’s not easy folks so we should stop acting like we have the answers and let Brohm coach the team. They’ve lost to 3 very good football teams and we’re in it until the end. And I thought I was impatient smh.
As usual,your condescending tone is loud and clear. The point is he didn't give any extra to get there and stop it. His back wasn't turned away. He just stood there. You do realize the difference,right?
 
As usual,your condescending tone is loud and clear. The point is he didn't give any extra to get there and stop it. His back wasn't turned away. He just stood there. You do realize the difference,right?
The hardest thing to do is tackling a guy in open field that isn’t on the sideline. It’s not easy against a great athlete.
 
The best defenses we have had at U of L in recent memory were under Strong & Bedford and immediately after them, i.e., their players.

Another issue is apparently what we're willing to pay the position. According to footballscoop.com and if I'm counting correctly, English is tied for the 48th highest paid DC in college football...
 
The best defenses we have had at U of L in recent memory were under Strong & Bedford and immediately after them, i.e., their players.

Another issue is apparently what we're willing to pay the position. According to footballscoop.com and if I'm counting correctly, English is tied for the 48th highest paid DC in college football...
They didn’t play this kind of schedule either. Makes a huge difference. Show me when they played the #1 offense in the country? I enjoyed those times but let’s face it, Strong proved what he was after leaving here. He probably wouldn’t have faired as well as Satt did in the ACC. Brohm won 10 games his initial year and you clowns on here belly aching already.
 
The best defenses we have had at U of L in recent memory were under Strong & Bedford and immediately after them, i.e., their players.

Another issue is apparently what we're willing to pay the position. According to footballscoop.com and if I'm counting correctly, English is tied for the 48th highest paid DC in college football...
I think that we may lack the means to pay as other Power 4 programs do. I.e., pUKe has 3 coordinators who are making $1.5 million a year. In fact, their lowest paid assistant is at 500k. Stoops is at 9 Big plus a year. I just don't think we have that kind of jack for the assistants/coordinators.
 
We paid Todd Grantham $1.3 million in 2015 ($1.7 million in 2024 dollars). LINK And we paid the OC, Garrick McGee, $0.85 million ($1.1 mil) per the same CJ article.

The debate isn't whether any of these guys are/were worth what they were paid. The issue is we had the money and spent it. And I'll always contend there's no free lunch...
 
I think that we may lack the means to pay as other Power 4 programs do. I.e., pUKe has 3 coordinators who are making $1.5 million a year. In fact, their lowest paid assistant is at 500k. Stoops is at 9 Big plus a year. I just don't think we have that kind of jack for the assistants/coordinators.
Yeah we do but why when you don’t have to. Your hung up on the Zipp money train. Brohm has been in cfb for awhile and knows people. He thought English could do the job, and to be honest, he hasn’t done bad considering the much better competition he’s had to face then our prior defensive coordinators did. Nobody ever factors in SOS. Tell me when the last time Louisville had the 22nd strongest schedule in the land?
 
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Aren’t they co-coordinators? Salary wise that may muddy the waters. When Zipp is showing the rankings. Not sure how many Dline coaches are making 700k. Very quick search that would make Hagan a top 5 paid Dline coach.

It has been packaged differently. I think they are 300K-500K short. Again the dollars figures only matter if talent is there. Yeah we spent 1.3 on Grantham but once he started losing his 4-5 star UGA players and others they tanked. The key is for the DC to recruit to his scheme the execute their scheme. This is where English has struggled. It is also where NIL probably got them. Put Barron and the kid for Purdue on this team. Maybe a different outcome.
 
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