south carolina rescinded Lorenzo's scholly day before

[KerryRhodes]

Signing day !









In 2011, South Carolina, coached by Steve Spurrier, oversigned by several players. BothOversigning.com[33] and Rivals.com[34] estimated South Carolina oversigned by 6 players when it signed 32 players in its 2011 class.[35] Additionally, on the day before National Signing Day, South Carolina rescinded offers to two other recruits that had verbally committed to signing with the school. One of the recruits, Lorenzo Mauldin, had been committed to the school for months[36] but learned he would not receive a scholarship offer when South Carolina faxed a notice of the rescinded offer to his high school on the day before Signing Day.[37] Walter Banks, the coach of Jordan Montgomery, the other recruit whose scholarship offer was pulled the day before National Signing Day, told The Wall Street Journal, "I told [South Carolina coaches] this was foul. I didn't have a clue until 18 hours before signing day, and if they say anything else, they're lying."[38] Banks also told The State that South Carolina coaches are "no longer welcome" at his high school (South Lake High School in Groveland, Florida) saying, "I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says."[39]Spurrier admitted to The Wall Street Journal that "what we probably could've done earlier in the recruiting is tell them that this could happen."[38] He later added, "I think on [February 1] we alerted both of them, talked to them and said 'Hey, I'm sorry. This is where we are. We got all these other commitments.' We didn't like doing this."[39] In late March 2011, Mauldin signed withLouisville saying that he came to believe that South Carolina coaches really didn't want him to qualify anyway.[40]

 

[DerVille]

Why are you telling us? We already know that. We are Louisville fans, it isn't us you need to "convince", the national perception Louisville is taking a hit for over this greyshirt thing is outside of us, outside of our fans. You're just preaching to the choir here. It's nationally Louisville's rep is taking a hit.

 

[beakwithteeth]

That should be mandatory reading for all graduating high school seniors. Any HS head coach who hasn't counseled their players in regards to what could happen if you are a marginal player in anyway, size, speed, brains etc. is negligent IMO.

 

[Steelers2012]

Originally posted by KerryRhodes:
Signing day !


In 2011, South Carolina, coached by Steve Spurrier, oversigned by several players. BothOversigning.com[33] and Rivals.com[34] estimated South Carolina oversigned by 6 players when it signed 32 players in its 2011 class.[35] Additionally, on the day before National Signing Day, South Carolina rescinded offers to two other recruits that had verbally committed to signing with the school. One of the recruits, Lorenzo Mauldin, had been committed to the school for months[36] but learned he would not receive a scholarship offer when South Carolina faxed a notice of the rescinded offer to his high school on the day before Signing Day.[37] Walter Banks, the coach of Jordan Montgomery, the other recruit whose scholarship offer was pulled the day before National Signing Day, told The Wall Street Journal, "I told [South Carolina coaches] this was foul. I didn't have a clue until 18 hours before signing day, and if they say anything else, they're lying."[38] Banks also told The State that South Carolina coaches are "no longer welcome" at his high school (South Lake High School in Groveland, Florida) saying, "I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says."[39]Spurrier admitted to The Wall Street Journal that "what we probably could've done earlier in the recruiting is tell them that this could happen."[38] He later added, "I think on [February 1] we alerted both of them, talked to them and said 'Hey, I'm sorry. This is where we are. We got all these other commitments.' We didn't like doing this."[39] In late March 2011, Mauldin signed withLouisville saying that he came to believe that South Carolina coaches really didn't want him to qualify anyway.[40]

Do you have a link to this article? I sure could use this info on the main football board right now.

 

[beakwithteeth]

Here you go.



link

 

[KerryRhodes]

Thats from wikipedia's oversigning topic.

Chock full of $EC teams oversigning players.

Where was the national outrage ?!

I know idiot cayuts fans think other $EC schools manure
is really a snickers bar.

 

[W.W.W.]

Originally posted by Steelers2012:

Originally posted by KerryRhodes:
Signing day !


In 2011, South Carolina, coached by Steve Spurrier, oversigned by several players. BothOversigning.com[33] and Rivals.com[34] estimated South Carolina oversigned by 6 players when it signed 32 players in its 2011 class.[35] Additionally, on the day before National Signing Day, South Carolina rescinded offers to two other recruits that had verbally committed to signing with the school. One of the recruits, Lorenzo Mauldin, had been committed to the school for months[36] but learned he would not receive a scholarship offer when South Carolina faxed a notice of the rescinded offer to his high school on the day before Signing Day.[37] Walter Banks, the coach of Jordan Montgomery, the other recruit whose scholarship offer was pulled the day before National Signing Day, told The Wall Street Journal, "I told [South Carolina coaches] this was foul. I didn't have a clue until 18 hours before signing day, and if they say anything else, they're lying."[38] Banks also told The State that South Carolina coaches are "no longer welcome" at his high school (South Lake High School in Groveland, Florida) saying, "I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says."[39]Spurrier admitted to The Wall Street Journal that "what we probably could've done earlier in the recruiting is tell them that this could happen."[38] He later added, "I think on [February 1] we alerted both of them, talked to them and said 'Hey, I'm sorry. This is where we are. We got all these other commitments.' We didn't like doing this."[39] In late March 2011, Mauldin signed withLouisville saying that he came to believe that South Carolina coaches really didn't want him to qualify anyway.[40]

Do you have a link to this article? I sure could use this info on the main football board right now.

Link

 

[Steelers2012]

Originally posted by KerryRhodes:
Thats from wikipedia's oversigning topic.

Chock full of $EC teams oversigning players.

Where was the national outrage ?!

I know idiot cayuts fans think other $EC schools manure
is really a snickers bar.

Thanks. I just Googled South Carolina rescinds Lorenzo Mauldin's offer, and I got the Wiki link.

 

[hintondc]

two wrongs don't make a right! I don't want our program to become the Oakland Raiders of the ACC, do you? I am as much a fan as anyone on this blog but what CBP did was WRONG! I don't care what other programs do. No way anyone can make this smell right...No way!

 

[nccardfan]

I think the difference in these stories from what i gather and understand, is that athletes do know it is a possibility that something like this happens, but I believe once South Carolina knew they were going to pull Mauldin's scholly, I believe that Spurrier at least called him, not a special teams/linebackers coach. Even though Grantham may have been the guy who was primarily recruiting him, the call to gray shirt him should have come from the head coach in my opinion.

 

[2for3]

Spurrier talked to the kid in person and Petrino is considered a scumbag by all of college football and he just signed a kid that was charged with domestic violence.....Tommy Knox is a legend in NC/SC and it seems is letting all know what happened...So what if Spurrier did it...it is wrong and it is a huge PR hit that will hurt in future recruiting...Petrino keeps losing trust with people

 

[zipp]

Originally posted by 2for3:
...it is wrong and it is a huge PR hit that will hurt in future recruiting...You've already been proven clueless and one helluva poor prognosticator.

It is having ZERO effect on recruiting...

 

[Cardfan1963]

Originally posteunderstand2for3:
Spurrier talked to the kid in person and Petrino is considered a scumbag by all of college football and he just signed a kid that was charged with domestic violence.....Tommy Knox is a legend in NC/SC and it seems is letting all know what happened...So what if Spurrier did it...it is wrong and it is a huge PR hit that will hurt in future recruiting...Petrino keeps losing trust with people

You really don't understand todays kids, well at least the best players. Here is the headline they are going to look at. 11 Louisville players invited to NFL draft! Knox is a idiot who overeacted.

 

[tkdcoach]

Originally posted by 2for3:
Spurrier talked to the kid in person and Petrino is considered a scumbag by all of college football and he just signed a kid that was charged with domestic violence.....Tommy Knox is a legend in NC/SC and it seems is letting all know what happened...So what if Spurrier did it...it is wrong and it is a huge PR hit that will hurt in future recruiting...Petrino keeps losing trust with people

Really? And how did that work out for Mr. Mauldin? Last I checked he is headed to the NFL combine and stands to be taken in early round(s) if not the 1st round (good chance).

For the record, scum of all college football would take some doing - more than motorcycles and GFs on the payroll, gray shirts and the Atlanta Falcons combined. And you can start the list with Steve Spurrier. A phone call? lmao at how naive and self-defeating this sort of grade school moralism can be.




This post was edited on 2/7 5:19 AM by tkdcoach

 

[coach1983]

This isn't about South Carolina! Stop looking for justification.
Should have told kid sooner.

 

[genghis_card]

Originally posted by coach1983:
This isn't about South Carolina! Stop looking for justification.
Should have told kid sooner.

OK, fine. Suppose what you say is exactly correct. Someone should have told the kid sooner, but someone didn't.


So now tell me what you're going to do? Be mad about it? Trash talk our team and our coaches? Pout? What?

 

[coach1983]

Learn from this, and not make same mistake again!
I'm a UL fan, not a Petrino fan.

 

[marshall_dillon]

Largely Because Mauldin Did Not Have A Qualifying Test Score

Mauldin received the qualifying test score on his last try. Had he failed, he would have had to go to JUCO or prep school. On signing day, Spurrier held a spot for Clowney, accepted letters of intent for all the kids that had academically qualified, and offered to greyshirt the rest.

Also, even though the offer was rescinded on signing day, the kids - again all of whom had not yet academically qualified, it was like 3 or 4 kids - were warned that their spots were in jeopardy. So claiming that this was in any way akin to Matt Colburn, who was fully qualified, is false. Especially since Louisville actually does still have a scholarship or two available! Louisville got Colburn to commit early as an insurance policy, and when better RBs committed they decided they didn't want him anymore and cut him loose. Simple as that.

The problem with it is not his cutting Colburn loose. The problem is doing it a couple of days before signing day, leaving Wake Forest as the kid's only major college offer. Given more time to shop himself around, the kid almost certainly could have done better.

 

[beakwithteeth]

"Louisville got Colburn to commit early as an insurance policy, and when better RBs committed they decided they didn't want him anymore and cut him loose. Simple as that. "

I view getting cut loose vs a full ride grayshirt offer differently than you.

Go Cards!

 

[PushupMan]

Re: Largely Because Mauldin Did Not Have A Qualifying Test Score

Originally posted by marshall_dillon:
The problem with it is not his cutting Colburn loose. The problem is doing it a couple of days before signing day, leaving Wake Forest as the kid's only major college offer. Given more time to shop himself around, the kid almost certainly could have done better.

Most recruits receive their National Letter of Intent from the school on their official visit. In Colburn's case, that was on January 16th. How do any of us actually know for a fact that Colburn was informed of the grey shirt offer only two days before signing day? More than likely, he learned of it when he received his NLI.

All we know for sure is that Colburn's head coach decided to pitch a hissy fit about it a couple of days before signing day - at which point it became national news. We don't get UofL's side of the story, because UofL isn't allowed to comment on any player they didn't sign.