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Simply mind boggling double standard

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The double standard in the media is just unbelievable when it comes to the University of Louisville. It's all of them. Now I know many expect BS from Doug Gottlieb but he's just the latest example of judging Louisville with the usual criteria. When they got the #4 seed, he said they were overseeded and got the seed because of their reputation. He brings up the Chris Jones thing like they all do. Never mind the full balance of work achieved by the Cards during the season. They should be judged and seeded after Chris Jones.

Now there are other teams that have not played as well due to injured players like Virginia and Kansas, but the media says that shouldn't be used against them in seeding. They talk about Kansas's body of work despite being blown out by Temple and with a loss to Oklahoma State. Virginia has lost two out of three, one to the Cards, but the media still says they should get a # 2 seed because of their body of work. I agree with this, but I would also say the Cavs are potential early upset victims because of the hampered Anderson but none in the media will say it.

I think the Cards finally got a decent bracket. A possible 2nd round game with a mid-major team seeded #5. The Cards could lose to them no doubt, but I would rather see them than the other #5 seeds. Then of all the #1 seeds, I would rather see Villanova than the others. The Wildcats was in a very mediocre Big East and that's why they have lost only twice. I think Arizona should have gotten that #1 seed.

Don't know anything about UC Irvine except they have a dude who's 7'6. Playing in Seattle has to be awesome for Aaron, but he may not come back with the team after getting there.
 
Why do you listen to what talking heads think if it upsets you? They're irrelevant...
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Why do you listen to what talking heads think if it upsets you? They're irrelevant...
C'mon zipp. What kind of question is that? You sound like my wife when she asks why I watch the games if I get upset when they lose. I tell her it goes both ways. I'm happy when we win and I'm not when we lose. She seems to think fans should only watch sports if they're planning to be happy.

I watch the selection show because I want to see who Louisville plays. Am I supposed to not watch it and wait to find out where the Cards are at because one of the commentators may diss the Cards? I post on the message boards to converse with other fans. Sometimes it's positive and sometimes it's negative. I just don't see why you need to question why I say anything. You think you know my style, so why not just leave it?
 
Honestly, I think many UofL and UK fans might be better educated about college basketball than some of the pundits.

We're in it much deeper and longer than those guys..
 
Originally posted by Rob_deVille:

Honestly, I think many UofL and UK fans might be better educated about college basketball than some of the pundits.

We're in it much deeper and longer than those guys..
Except for the LPT part, that's exactly my point, Numbers. Just watch and turn the sound down. What those clowns say has next to no effect on me, certainly not to the point of complaining about it...
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by Rob_deVille:

Honestly, I think many UofL and UK fans might be better educated about college basketball than some of the pundits.

We're in it much deeper and longer than those guys..
Except for the LPT part, that's exactly my point, Numbers. Just watch and turn the sound down. What those clowns say has next to no effect on me, certainly not to the point of complaining about it...
My opinion shouldn't have any effect on you then either. Yet, you're complaining about my complaining. Also, there's no way I'm not going to watch all the tourney coverage even with the double standard. I love college hoops. I can still bitch about the media while watching the coverage. I can also come to this message board and again, converse with those who are interested in what I say. If complaining was a no no for posting messages, rivals would go bankrupt.
 
Just trying to spare you frustration...knock yourself out.

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"but I would also say the Cavs are potential early upset victims because of the hampered Anderson but none in the media will say it."

I've heard many pundits talk about the effect of Anderson's health condition on UVA's chances.
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Just trying to spare you frustration...knock yourself out.

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Sure you are. But anyway, any frustration I will have, you don't have to concern yourself. I've survived this long.
 
"I think the Cards finally got a decent bracket. A possible 2nd round game with a mid-major team seeded #5. The Cards could lose to them no doubt, but I would rather see them than the other #5 seeds. Then of all the #1 seeds, I would rather see Villanova than the others. The Wildcats was in a very mediocre Big East and that's why they have lost only twice. I think Arizona should have gotten that #1 seed."

This is all I'm concerned about. We got a favorable bracket which certainly wasn't the case last year. I'd much rather be the 4 seed here than the 3 seed in the Midwest.
 
Originally posted by Knucklehank1:
"but I would also say the Cavs are potential early upset victims because of the hampered Anderson but none in the media will say it."

I've heard many pundits talk about the effect of Anderson's health condition on UVA's chances.
Yeah, but several including Bilas and Vitale have them going to the final 4. Not one single person I've seen tonight has said anything about Louisville other than they don't have Chris Jones. Almost all pundits agree Villanova has the easest path to the final 4 with Bilas and Jay Williams having them in the final 4. Villanova is a perfect pick for an early upset for a high seed. But not by a Jonesless Louisville.

This post was edited on 3/15 10:52 PM by 80,86
 
We have several glaring weaknesses, which have been discussed on here ad nauseum. Is it any surprise that people wouldn't pick the Cards?
 
Originally posted by ACCCard:
What's next? Don't watch UL basketball if it upsets you?
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Absolutely. Life's too short. If you don't enjoy something, stop doing it.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. You've heard that.

Numbers turning on the TV... "Let's hear what the SOB is saying this time." Just why??
 
I saw UL's draw, turned off the TV, and went out to dinner.

Numbers is right. They are upsetting. So I took a page from Zipp's book, and just said "no". I didn't watch a minute of "commentary".

It's ironic that they have ex-coach's, ex-players, and ex "Nothings", making picks and projections........and none of them know any more than the others.

It just fills air time and makes sponsor money.

And besides, I've said myself that this UL team is often just hard to watch, and I'm as big a fan as anybody. So I can't expect an "expert" to have anything complimentary to say about us.
 
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by ACCCard:
What's next? Don't watch UL basketball if it upsets you?
laugh.r191677.gif
Absolutely. Life's too short. If you don't enjoy something, stop doing it.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. You've heard that.

Numbers turning on the TV... "Let's hear what the SOB is saying this time." Just why??
I have to agree with Zipp here. Life is too short to worry about what a bunch of talking heads are saying. They don't get to decide the outcome no matter what garbage they spew out.

Our players and our coaches will get a say in what happens and that's it. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

1. The kids and coaches get to leave the city of Louisville and the Chris Jones drama behind.

2. This team has already shown us all they are way more focused away from home because they are less distracted.

3. It's Seattle. The Cardinals have a growing fan base in Seattle because of Terrance Williams, Peyton Siva, and Shaqquan Aaron.

I like our chances of leaving Seattle with 2 wins.
 
Originally posted by Cue Card:
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by ACCCard:
What's next? Don't watch UL basketball if it upsets you?
laugh.r191677.gif
Absolutely. Life's too short. If you don't enjoy something, stop doing it.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. You've heard that.

Numbers turning on the TV... "Let's hear what the SOB is saying this time." Just why??
I have to agree with Zipp here. Life is too short to worry about what a bunch of talking heads are saying. They don't get to decide the outcome no matter what garbage they spew out.

Our players and our coaches will get a say in what happens and that's it. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

1. The kids and coaches get to leave the city of Louisville and the Chris Jones drama behind.

2. This team has already shown us all they are way more focused away from home because they are less distracted.

3. It's Seattle. The Cardinals have a growing fan base in Seattle because of Terrance Williams, Peyton Siva, and Shaqquan Aaron.

I like our chances of leaving Seattle with 2 wins.
My hope is that this doesn't turn into a "Sleepless in Seattle" week.

I agree....the pundits decide nothing.....it all gets decided on the court.....as it should be.

This tournament is wide open and ripe for upsets this year......that will be the norm......I know this because of all the 'chalk' picks that the pundits have made. This will be the 'Granddaddy Year of the UPSETS"! Watch and see....watch and see.

I have little fear of the 1 & 2 seeds in the Cards bracket. Respect.....but not fear that the Cards can't beat them.

Cards now must live up to their history of stellar play as the underdog team that gets no respect......that team will rise up and prove that they are better than the national media...even some local media think they are.

Time for CRP to work his magic.....much like his Providence teams unlikely ride to the FF. History does have a way of repeating itself in sports and in life.

Pray that the BB Gods look favorably upon the Cards and the refs do too!!!!!! Amen!
 
Originally posted by Mayoman:
Originally posted by Cue Card:
Originally posted by zipp:
Originally posted by ACCCard:
What's next? Don't watch UL basketball if it upsets you?
laugh.r191677.gif
Absolutely. Life's too short. If you don't enjoy something, stop doing it.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. You've heard that.

Numbers turning on the TV... "Let's hear what the SOB is saying this time." Just why??
I have to agree with Zipp here. Life is too short to worry about what a bunch of talking heads are saying. They don't get to decide the outcome no matter what garbage they spew out.

Our players and our coaches will get a say in what happens and that's it. It doesn't go any deeper than that.

1. The kids and coaches get to leave the city of Louisville and the Chris Jones drama behind.

2. This team has already shown us all they are way more focused away from home because they are less distracted.

3. It's Seattle. The Cardinals have a growing fan base in Seattle because of Terrance Williams, Peyton Siva, and Shaqquan Aaron.

I like our chances of leaving Seattle with 2 wins.
My hope is that this doesn't turn into a "Sleepless in Seattle" week.

I agree....the pundits decide nothing.....it all gets decided on the court.....as it should be.

This tournament is wide open and ripe for upsets this year......that will be the norm......I know this because of all the 'chalk' picks that the pundits have made. This will be the 'Granddaddy Year of the UPSETS"! Watch and see....watch and see.

I have little fear of the 1 & 2 seeds in the Cards bracket. Respect.....but not fear that the Cards can't beat them.

Cards now must live up to their history of stellar play as the underdog team that gets no respect......that team will rise up and prove that they are better than the national media...even some local media think they are.

Time for CRP to work his magic.....much like his Providence teams unlikely ride to the FF. History does have a way of repeating itself in sports and in life.

Pray that the BB Gods look favorably upon the Cards and the refs do too!!!!!! Amen!
The Granddaddy of upsets happened last year. I mean we had a 7 seed playing a 8 seed for the National Championship. The 34-0 Wichita State team lost in the round of 32 to an 8 seed. You think the 34-0 UK Wildcats are going to do that this year? The only thing that would be sweeter than that (other than the Cards putting UK out of the tourney) is for UK to make history and be the first team to lose to a 16 seed. That would be epic.
 
Most of those guys are losers. Can't coach, can't play! Doug Gottlieb is very opinionated. He seeks these kinds of reactions.

Jat Bilas is the only commentator with some sense of the game. The rest have no credibility because they are over paid losers.
 
I imagine there are fans of many team in the tournament that think their team was screwed by the selection committee. UofL, just go out there and win each damn game you have to play.
 
People are really selling Vllanova short. They have an incredibly balanced team. They don't have the star power, but they do everything well. I think they make it further than Duke.
 
Originally posted by J-Rye_UL:
People are really selling Vllanova short. They have an incredibly balanced team. They don't have the star power, but they do everything well. I think they make it further than Duke.
Totally disagree. Duke has had to play way better teams than Nova has and has a much easier path to the final 4. But hey, that's what makes the big dance fun. Nobody thought Uconn would win it all last year.
 
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