Scotty D it should have been
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I still think he is an option at the end of the year. He has the right personality, he is well respected in the community, he is very passionate about the game and the city. He could energize the fan and donor base.
I would be all in on Chris Mack. There are a handful of other guys that could handle this job, but if no one of that quality wants this mess Scotty D would be a great backup plan.
I would be all in on Chris Mack. There are a handful of other guys that could handle this job, but if no one of that quality wants this mess Scotty D would be a great backup plan.
Why Mack? What has he done that would make you want to go all in on him? Not to say that he wouldn’t come but, he’s a Xavier grad and based upon his record, I wouldn’t give him the money / contract that it’s going to take to get him to leave there.
No, DP was the right choice during the transition. When the AD and Pres interim issues are settled then a decision can be made to keep DP or find someone else.
You can keep him if you want this kid is not ready for this level of coaching. Why do people think this? What has he done in his coaching career to earn such a high level job? Their are coaches at all other levels trying to get their. Guys you have to earn your stripes. Not cause we are comfortable with him not going to cut it. Yesterday was the reason why he is not anywhere near ready for a HC at this level.
I think timing worked against everyone in being able to choose Scotty. It would have been too much to ask him to drop everything to take the job. A good person would not have been willing to leave the players at Bellarmine. Just because character is something easily thrown away in high dollar sports-- character still matters for some and I think it was too much to ask Scotty to do. But I do believe he could be the answer at the end of the season because he is a Louisville guy.
4 Sweet 16’s and 1 elite 8 in 8 seasons at Xavier. Pretty freaking good
Yes it is. I don’t think it’s “all in on him” good - particularly when I think we have other outstanding options but, it’s good. He’d be a solid 2nd or 3rd choice.
Plus a lot of that was in the A10. They play multiple defenses and a very good offensive scheme. I will confess that I am an X fan and don't want Chris to leave, but if he does, I want him in Louisville.
Heck Scotty D or even Tom Crean would have been better interim. We hired a guy who does not know what he is doing because the players knew he was a pushover and it was a cute PR move. This team has great talent, all it needs is just someone who know wth they are doing to guide them.
It sucks knowing that we will not be getting a Rick Pitino as our next guy. When Denny was going down, I remember my dad telling me to remember these days because it would not get better, and then we got an extreme upgrade in Rick.
Mack will be good, but its hard to find Hall of Fame level coaches. It requires a lot of luck/timing.
It sucks knowing that we will not be getting a Rick Pitino as our next guy. When Denny was going down, I remember my dad telling me to remember these days because it would not get better, and then we got an extreme upgrade in Rick.
Mack will be good, but its hard to find Hall of Fame level coaches. It requires a lot of luck/timing.
He’d be my first choice. Gregg Marshall is too prickly to be my first choice. And I don’t know if Donovan would even consider given his Pitino ties.
Please everyone stop pretending that we can go out and get anybody we want right now. We are a mess right now and with all the uncertainties, any reputable Coach right now risks taking a big hit to their careers. We went with a guy who has coaching in his blood lines, knows all the players (probably the biggest plus) and loves the University. If the fan base won’t support CDP, I’m afraid the players are going to 2nd guess their coach. That’s how young athletes are today. They don’t care what you did as a player, they want to know what you are going to do for them personally.
Here’s my plan for UofL basketball:
-play out this season and see what happens
- after season impose 2 year postseason ban
- allow all players to transfer or redshirt if they want
- make seat donations 1/2 price for the next two seasons
- go after Chris Mack and offer long term deal
- if big coaches (Mack, Marshall, Donovan) balk at UofL, offer a 2 or 3 year deal to Scotty Davenport with option to join the next staff as an associate head coach.
- this will allow Davenport to do some recruiting knowing that he most likely would be retained on staff at a salary higher than what he makes at BU
- taking the self-imposed ban would allow for the coach after Davenport to tell players that we think that we are done with any sanctions
Basically we scorch the next two seasons while playing a fun brand of b-ball under Scotty. It allows for some recruiting continuity and would then allow the longer term coach to have a mostly clean slate. Davenport would make way more money than at BU. This would basically allow us to not avoid the pseudo probation that a dragged out FBI investigation will have over us for multiple years.
-play out this season and see what happens
- after season impose 2 year postseason ban
- allow all players to transfer or redshirt if they want
- make seat donations 1/2 price for the next two seasons
- go after Chris Mack and offer long term deal
- if big coaches (Mack, Marshall, Donovan) balk at UofL, offer a 2 or 3 year deal to Scotty Davenport with option to join the next staff as an associate head coach.
- this will allow Davenport to do some recruiting knowing that he most likely would be retained on staff at a salary higher than what he makes at BU
- taking the self-imposed ban would allow for the coach after Davenport to tell players that we think that we are done with any sanctions
Basically we scorch the next two seasons while playing a fun brand of b-ball under Scotty. It allows for some recruiting continuity and would then allow the longer term coach to have a mostly clean slate. Davenport would make way more money than at BU. This would basically allow us to not avoid the pseudo probation that a dragged out FBI investigation will have over us for multiple years.
When Rick was fired, practiced started a few days later. CDP didn't ask for this. It was a very touchy time and the players asked for CDP. Context is important here, 3 months of lookback wasn't a luxury at the time. And who knows what Scott Davenport's Cards would have done and maybe you'd be here saying "Should have hired David Padgett." Support CDP and let this season play out.
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That is a shitty comment. Who the hell are you to say this? Go up to 6'11" David Padgett and tell him he's a pushover (your word, own it). You won't. The reality is practice started 2 days after a HOF coach was fired; who did you really think was an option? It is a tough dynamic for David b/c was closer to being a player than a coach at the time of his hire. He didn't ask for this, the fans didn't ask for this, but this is the reality of the situation.
Give Mack the resources at Louisville and the ACC he will do just fine. There are a handful of coaches that can handle this job and some of them aren't even an option. I would love to get Jay Wright or Billy Donovan, but they aren't coming. People really need to realize the pool is very shallow.
I guess you said it somewhere but still don’t understand why we need to impose a two year ban? To appease the NCAA? That only sets us back further and ensures that there is nothing to look forward to. Let it play out on its own. Rise from the ashes.
We have already thrown ourselves to the mercy and purview of the NCAA by not challenging the stripper-gate stuff. That landed us on probation so now the NCAA will be salivating to punish us further. We can’t suddenly get indignant and act like we are now tough guys in fighting the NCAA. If we don’t self-impose, we will be in a terrible purgatory that will effectively kill recruiting. It’s better to kill recruiting for the next 2 years rather than the waiting on the FBI to finish its investigation. We have no idea how long that will take. I think too many of us aren’t looking at this logically. We got a one year postseason ban and vacating a title for stripper-gate. What do we think will happen for trying to funnel $100k to a recruit while on probation? We are for sure looking at a 2 year ban. Might as well control the damage and take it when we want.
We have fired the coach and the AD. I know maybe that some feel actions were needed sooner but at least it shows we (the University) were willing to sever ties with two of the most important people if not iconic figures. Hopefully, punishing athletes who are not even enrolled at the University is contractictory to allowing student-athletes earn an education. It’s not about keeping kids from playing sports, hopefully.
We fired the person or persons responsible for trying to funnel cash to a recruit. We have told the recruit that he’s not going to play here and we won’t from here on out, tolerate those actions.
I’m not sure we would be looking at losing the banner if we took our self imposed ban a little further and disciplined CRP at the time. It showed the NCAA in their eyes, we weren’t really taking this seriously enough. Rick’s continuous denials and TJ’s support of him has left us where we are now, I really believe that.
We fired the person or persons responsible for trying to funnel cash to a recruit. We have told the recruit that he’s not going to play here and we won’t from here on out, tolerate those actions.
I’m not sure we would be looking at losing the banner if we took our self imposed ban a little further and disciplined CRP at the time. It showed the NCAA in their eyes, we weren’t really taking this seriously enough. Rick’s continuous denials and TJ’s support of him has left us where we are now, I really believe that.
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Look at what the NCAA did to Ole Miss as a good proxy for what UofL b-ball probably faces. And keep in mind Ole Miss fires their coach as well.
Yes I said this at the time. He may even be a permanent choice. The guy is a hidden gem.
He is first and foremost a Louisvillian who loves UofL. That's something that the other candidates don't have and he would likely ride out the short-term penalties toset the foundation for later success.
Scotty Davenport? He’s a tremendous coach with all the Louisville ties we seek. However, what’s his age? I can’t find it anywhere. He was here coaching Allan Houston at Ballard. He was with Crum before Rick. I don’t think he has the energy that’s needed to go out recruiting like what we need. Heck, even CRP, as in shape as he is is wearing down. Scotty has had some health concerns, he’s lost a ton of weight but does he have it in him to survive what possibly faces the Cards these next 2-3 years? I love Scotty but he’s built his legacy at Bellarmine and that’s good enough for me. Now if you were to promise that if he took the job and his son become next in waiting then who knows? But those deals are often scrutinized.
I think the Cards should go after Billy Donovan once the Thunder fire him (and they will because it's the NBA way).
Donovan or bust. If not Donovan then keep Padgett and live thru the growing pains. Padgett will be a great head coach one day IMO if given the chance to mature and grow as a head coach.
Donovan or bust. If not Donovan then keep Padgett and live thru the growing pains. Padgett will be a great head coach one day IMO if given the chance to mature and grow as a head coach.
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