Spare us the fake outrage.Originally posted by marshall_dillon:
First off, virtually no one is going to accept a greyshirt if you spring it on them at the last minute. You have to tell them that there is a possibility that they may be greyshirted during the process. If the kid doesn't mind being greyshirted, he sticks. If he doesn't want to greyshirt, he starts looking and likely goes elsewhere.
Second, colleges DO NOT drop kids with 2 days before signing day. So please, no comparison between kids who get dropped 6 months or 6 weeks before signing day. Give a kid at least a month before signing day and there are plenty of programs who still have room and there is plenty of time to take visits. Give a kid 2 days and he is stuck with whoever has a spot for him.
You can't change the terms that you originally agreed on and then pretend as if it is some: "Well if the kid REALLY wanted to come here ... most kids would LOVE the chance for a free education and to play big time college ball" and other nonsense. Kids commit under certain conditions to find the best deal that they can. Most kids have no interest in greyshirting because they don't want to delay their educations.
This was a kid who would have had real options if Louisville had been straight with him as recently as a month ago when the kid visited Louisville on an official visit and the team already knew that they were short on DBs. It looks like Louisville put the squeeze on this kid, hoping that if they pulled something like this, he would come around to greyshirting.
Of course the high school coach is mad, and if I were the high school coach for this program I would have the same policy: that the Louisville coaching staff can't be trusted, and my kids are going to go to the MANY coaching staffs that can be. No, it isn't a big deal TO YOU, because YOU aren't the one who will have to spend his college career playing for a losing Wake Forest team or at some mid-major like Georgia Southern.
Originally posted by marshall_dillon:
First off, virtually no one is going to accept a greyshirt if you spring it on them at the last minute. You have to tell them that there is a possibility that they may be greyshirted during the process... And you know he wasn't told this how? Because he didn't tell the rest of us? Maybe he heard what he wanted to hear before this week. After all, U of L was competing against Charleston Southern and Presbyterian for this kid!
Nobody gets told for sure they're grayshirting until it's clear that there's a scholarship crunch. And you don't know that the summer before. You don't usually know that with much advance time at all.
So, tell me what you know FACTUALLY and we can continue the discussion...
Hey pardna', your current coach did the exact same thing while here, and more than once. Greyshirting was very much a factor in Charlie's recruiting strategy. In one very similar case, the HS coach also "banned" Charlie from ever recruiting "his" school. Not that it mattered. Charlie and his staff just went directly the the recruits and their parents without involving the coach. Never missed a beat.Originally posted by marshall_dillon:
First off, virtually no one is going to accept a greyshirt if you spring it on them at the last minute. You have to tell them that there is a possibility that they may be greyshirted during the process. If the kid doesn't mind being greyshirted, he sticks. If he doesn't want to greyshirt, he starts looking and likely goes elsewhere.
Second, colleges DO NOT drop kids with 2 days before signing day. So please, no comparison between kids who get dropped 6 months or 6 weeks before signing day. Give a kid at least a month before signing day and there are plenty of programs who still have room and there is plenty of time to take visits. Give a kid 2 days and he is stuck with whoever has a spot for him.
You can't change the terms that you originally agreed on and then pretend as if it is some: "Well if the kid REALLY wanted to come here ... most kids would LOVE the chance for a free education and to play big time college ball" and other nonsense. Kids commit under certain conditions to find the best deal that they can. Most kids have no interest in greyshirting because they don't want to delay their educations.
This was a kid who would have had real options if Louisville had been straight with him as recently as a month ago when the kid visited Louisville on an official visit and the team already knew that they were short on DBs. It looks like Louisville put the squeeze on this kid, hoping that if they pulled something like this, he would come around to greyshirting.
Of course the high school coach is mad, and if I were the high school coach for this program I would have the same policy: that the Louisville coaching staff can't be trusted, and my kids are going to go to the MANY coaching staffs that can be. No, it isn't a big deal TO YOU, because YOU aren't the one who will have to spend his college career playing for a losing Wake Forest team or at some mid-major like Georgia Southern.