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Pervis_Griffith

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From another board, supposedly the SEC Network reported that an ESPN contact said the Big XII was planning on expanding with 4 schools.

Cincinnati
Memphis State
Houston
BYU

If BYU turns them down (which honestly, I would expect them to), then the Big XII would invite the ....

Central Florida Golden Knights


Trying to verify this .... but having trouble. SO .... this may be nothing more than "when does football start message board chatter".
 
Would they go to a conference that could lose its P5 status? Or does that even matter anymore?
 
From another board, supposedly the SEC Network reported that an ESPN contact said the Big XII was planning on expanding with 4 schools.

Cincinnati
Memphis State
Houston
BYU

If BYU turns them down (which honestly, I would expect them to), then the Big XII would invite the ....

Central Florida Golden Knights


Trying to verify this .... but having trouble. SO .... this may be nothing more than "when does football start message board chatter".

Literally - someone from our board said that someone from another board said that the SEC said that someone at ESPN said that the Big12 said they are adding those 4 schools?

It's all discussion and just as valid as anything else at this point, but that did make me LOL. Truthfully, short-term this is the easiest scenario to play out - if the B12 asks, 3 of those 4 programs will gladly come, with BYU being the question mark. The problem is stability and further defections, just like what the mighty BIG EAST saw when it looked west and attempted to add Navy, San Diego State, Boise, and (I think) Memphis State.
 
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Literally - someone from our board said that someone from another board said that the SEC said that someone at ESPN said that the Big12 said they are adding those 4 schools?

It's all discussion and just as valid as anything else at this point, but that did make me LOL. Truthfully, short-term this is the easiest scenario to play out - if the B12 asks, 3 of those 4 programs will gladly come, with BYU being the question mark. The problem is stability and further defections, just like what the mighty BIG EAST saw when it looked west and attempted to add Navy, San Diego State, Boise, and (I think) Memphis State.

I know ... when I was typing that out I thought the same thing. I was going to link it, but decided they didn't deserve the link. And I half-heartedly searched around for a primary source. But figured screw that. I don't care that much ....


To your point .... I hear ya on stability. Trying to figure that out will drive you crazy.

But here's how I figure it ....

If I am Cincy or the Central Florida Golden Knights, I make that jump to the Big 8 remnants, because suddenly, you are in a conference with Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Kansas, Texas Tech etc. And in your wildest dreams would that opportunity have ever presented itself in the past for you. Even a diminished Big XII is better than the waters you are swimming in now.

There's still a good chance that you never make a stable conference (we're actually in the same boat there, at least by 2031-ish, five years out of our GoR expiring).

But you're in a good conference, and with the expanded playoff, you have a shot at making that playoff, which realistically you never had before.
 
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I know ... when I was typing that out I thought the same thing. I was going to link it, but decided they didn't deserve the link. And I half-heartedly searched around for a primary source. But figured screw that. I don't care that much ....


To your point .... I hear ya on stability. Trying to figure that out will drive you crazy.

But here's how I figure it ....

If I am Cincy or the Central Florida Golden Knights, I make that jump to the Big 8 remnants, because suddenly, you are in a conference with Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Kansas, Texas Tech etc. And in your wildest dreams would that opportunity have ever presented itself in the past for you. Even a diminished Big XII is better than the waters you are swimming in now.

There's still a good chance that you never make a stable conference (we're actually in the same boat there, at least by 2031-ish, five years out of our GoR expiring).

But you're in a good conference, and with the expanded playoff, you have a shot at making that playoff, which realistically you never had before.

I don't disagree. Cincy/UCF/Memphis are in the same seat that SDSU, Boise, & Navy were in back in 2012/13. If the Big East programs had circled the wagons and held, then those 3 programs are in a BCS conference and take their shot for a few years; if not, no harm done. If the B12 programs circle the wagons & hold, then Cincy/UCF/Memphis will make a similar jump - at least until 2025; if not, no harm done.

I'm not completely convinced the ACC will do anything. I think WVU is a smart add for several reasons, they are a good program that is nationally respected. Let's face it, football needs some help and the two divisions don't both have to have the same number of teams necessarily (if the B12 can have 10 teams, then the ACC can have a division of 6 and a division of 7). Cincy/UCF/Memphis are less so (I doubt Fickell is still at UC by 2025). No one is leaving the SEC or B10 for significantly less money in the ACC, and no one in the Pac-12 is coming to the ACC. WVU is the only addition that makes any sense.

I poked fun at your post because of hte layered sources - but it's actually quite realistic and makes more sense than most of the nonsense I've been reading. Realistic or not, it's fun to speculate isn't it?
 
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