Program on a plateau

[Kratz]

It's year 4 and the program is no better or worse than when Petrino took over. Always finish 8-4 or 9-3. Recruiting rankings stay about the same each year. Seems like he's stuck on a plateau.

IMO he has about 2 years left to take the next step of he's gone.

 

[beantowncard]

I remember Nebraska fired Frank Solich after 3 10 win seasons. They’ve never been the same. Better to be good year after year, occasionally winning a championship, than be up and down with multiple coaching changes.

 

[Rollem Cards]

We may very well be where we're going to be. Regardless the coach.

Our lack of a recruiting base is going to haunt us yearly.

And before we say " we need to recruit better", see basketball.

If there were another way to recruit better, we'd have done it.

 

[SoulSr]

Fellow UofL fans, we joined the ACC in 2014 and have won ONE Conference Championship???? Women's Volleyball. The ACC is monster men's sports conference. Boston College has been a member since 2004 and has won ZERO.

We are in a P5 conference and to me the very best fit for Louisville from a athletic and academic standpoint. It will take time to be at the top every year. Even as we improve the other members do as well. This isn't the BE or the AAC. We need patience and realistic football expectations. We have left the pouch and are now running with the big dogs.

Go CARDS. Beat Boston College!

Peace

 

[zipp]

(Posted these data and comments on the premium forum yesterday--obviously can't link it directly...)

Sorry guys, can't go there with you on Petrino. You ain't Bama or Clemson (yet).

Updated conference winning percentage since the start of the 2014 season...
Alabama 0.933
Ohio State 0.931
Clemson 0.900
Oklahoma 0.793
Wisconsin 0.759
Florida State 0.750
TCU 0.724
Stanford 0.719
USC 0.688
#10(T) Louisville 0.667
Florida 0.667
Georgia 0.667
Iowa 0.655
Oklahoma State 0.655
Washington 0.645
Michigan State 0.643
Michigan 0.630
Penn State 0.621
Oregon 0.613
North Carolina 0.607
Washington St 0.600
Utah 0.586
Baylor 0.586
Kansas State 0.586
West Virginia 0.586
Pittsburgh 0.577
Miami 0.577
LSU 0.577
Nebraska 0.571
Virginia Tech 0.519
Mississippi State 0.519
Auburn 0.519
Northwestern 0.519
Ole Miss 0.500
UCLA 0.483
Texas 0.483
Georgia Tech 0.481
Texas A&M 0.481
Tennessee 0.462
Maryland 0.455
Arizona State 0.448
Minnesota 0.444
NC State 0.423
Duke 0.407
Arizona 0.400
Arkansas 0.385
Kentucky 0.370
Missouri 0.357
Texas Tech 0.345
Boston College 0.333
California 0.333
South Carolina 0.321
Virginia 0.320
Colorado 0.290
Illinois 0.259
Indiana 0.259
Syracuse 0.192
Wake Forest 0.185
Vanderbilt 0.185
Iowa State 0.172
Oregon State 0.167
Rutgers 0.148
Purdue 0.148
Kansas 0.069

(Follow-up comments...)

Issue is not with 2014, 2015 or half of 2016 Zipp; something backfired heading into the close of 2016 and is still lingering around.

Yeah, but that's something to figure out, not base sweeping conclusions on. Analogous to other issues like the running game, defense, etc. They're important at a tactical level, but not in how "the program" is performing or being managed. Too much reactionary emotion from a fanbase that needs some stability in their college athletics lives.

If we were something like 3-4 against Clemson and FSU the last four years (instead of 1-6), which is where many of you guys expect to be, our conference record in that span would be as good as FSU's. Think about that... You EXPECT to be as good as FSU in your first four years in the conference. Those are mighty lofty expectations. I'm not saying you don't hope or shoot for that. But to legitimately expect it?

I'm not happy with mediocrity nor is Jurich or Petrino. (Tyra and Postel might be...) But we're way the hell better than mediocre. A recalibration of your performance gauges is suggested...

 

[BPGhost]

Fellow UofL fans, we joined the ACC in 2014 and have won ONE Conference Championship???? Women's Volleyball. The ACC is monster men's sports conference. Boston College has been a member since 2004 and has won ZERO.

We are in a P5 conference and to me the very best fit for Louisville from a athletic and academic standpoint. It will take time to be at the top every year. Even as we improve the other members do as well. This isn't the BE or the AAC. We need patience and realistic football expectations. We have left the pouch and are now running with the big dogs.

Go CARDS. Beat Boston College!

Peace

Haven’t we won conference title in baseball every year since we’ been in the ACC?

 

[nccardfan]

Haven’t we won conference title in baseball every year since we’ been in the ACC?

Unfortunately no. Since 1973, the ACC recognizes the winner of the ACC tournament as its conference champion, not the regular season champion.

 

[topdecktiger]

Haven’t we won conference title in baseball every year since we’ been in the ACC?

Louisville won the division, not the conference.

 

[zipp]

"Recognize" is fine... We've been consistently the best baseball team in the ACC since we joined. And that's what you want...

 

[Morgantown Card]

It's year 4 and the program is no better or worse than when Petrino took over. Always finish 8-4 or 9-3. Recruiting rankings stay about the same each year. Seems like he's stuck on a plateau.

IMO he has about 2 years left to take the next step of he's gone.

I keep saying this - be careful what you wish for.

 

[BPGhost]

Unfortunately no. Since 1973, the ACC recognizes the winner of the ACC tournament as its conference champion, not the regular season champion.

That’s dumb...

 

[Knucklehank1]

I'm pretty sure we technically tied as Atlantic division champ last season in football.

 

[CardsFirst]

I'm pretty sure we technically tied as Atlantic division champ last season in football.

We did

 

[nccardfan]

That’s dumb...

I think it's based on the fact that because of the number of teams in the conference, you don't play everyone but in the tournament every team has an opportunity.