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Playing Bama was a dumb idea to begin with

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Alabama has been on a NFL level the past 10 years, winning championship after championship. Last night's game proved to be a dumbass decision.

The only thing dumber is Petrino letting his players talk shit in the media about beating Alabama. Louisville has always had their fair share of stupid athletes in my time watching the program. Letting these type of players in front of a microphone is a bad idea.

What a bad opening night for UofL. Brohm needs to be approached sooner than later, he really does.
 
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It was scheduled three years ago and at that time we seemed to be progressing. But I would rather open with an Indiana St than Bama. Let's play Bama in the CFP if we make it one day.

And yeah I agree, STFU with the trash talk.
 
During Petrino's first term, a player would have been scared to death to trash talk in the media because the punishment would have been brutal. Bobby is now a player's coach and apparently players have access to the media and can say all the stupid things they want. And how stupid do you have to be to be where we are as a program and trash talk Alabama? Stupid is as stupid does.
 
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Yes. Much safer to open with a Central Michigan type. At the time the Alabama game was being worked out, the Louisville Football program was on a roll and Jurich wasn’t about to pass up a chance to play the gold standard of college football teams just so we could ease into the season. Louisville Football has never been about that.

I agree, the trash talking was foolish and the mental breakdowns are getting tiresome.

Yeah it was ugly but in reality, what it was, was one non-conference loss to a team that’s won 5 of the last 9 National Championships.
 
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Louisville is not Purdue,Wisconsin, iowa, or duke. We will always have dumb asses on our mens sports teams. Half the time I hear one of our players speak to the media I get embarrassed.
 
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Line em up and play them all.Then go out and do a better job of trying to beat them.
 
Chapman123 said:
Louisville is not Purdue,Wisconsin, iowa, or duke. We will always have dumb asses on our mens sports teams. Half the time I hear one of our players speak to the media I get embarrassed.
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You forgot to include BYU and Stanford - lol.

Any amount of dumbasses on D1 programs will always be dwarfed by dumbasses like you in “fan” bases and, any amount of embarrassment you feel when you hear UofL players speak to the media, will always be dwarfed by the embarrassment felt by rational, thoughtful fans when reading imbecilic, dog whistle posts like the one you just typed.

Perhaps you should start watching D3 sports. Teams like Centre and Hanover have the student athlete demographic that would appeal to you. Shoot - you could’ve even grabbed a hotdog in Madison at the “kookout” and made some new friends before the game.
 
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You forgot to include BYU and Stanford - lol.

Any amount of dumbasses on D1 programs will always be dwarfed by dumbasses like you in “fan” bases and, any amount of embarrassment you feel when you hear UofL players speak to the media, will always be dwarfed by the embarrassment felt by rational, thoughtful fans when reading imbecilic, dog whistle posts like the one you just typed.

Perhaps you should start watching D3 sports. Teams like Centre and Hanover have the student athlete demographic that would appeal to you. Shoot - you could’ve even grabbed a hotdog in Madison at the “kookout” and made some new friends before the game.
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Beeps is back. A welcomed thumbs up
 
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What exactly is the downside of playing Alabama? Louisville wasn't good to be a title contender this year anyway. Losing the game and even getting blown out doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Depending on the team and coaching this could be a real wake up call to everyone in the program. You aren't as good as you thought you were either individually or collectively. You can't compete if you don't execute at the highest level.

Playing great non conference team in the 1st or 2nd game should be an annual game. That is the only way to see the status of your program. What we saw and more importantly the Louisville program (coaches and players)have a long way to go to be even competitive which is humbling.
 
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I think the people who can be honest about where Petrino has the program now, letting the talent base slide to this level know there was no upside to playing that game. I want to see a little more before I can say it for sure, but this might be the least talented U of L team since Strong's first season after the Kragthorpe mess.
 
Hard to tell about the level of talent except they definitely aren't on Alabama's level but who is?

I think he messed up defensively with his coaching hires including Grantham. Grantham was a perfect short term fit but terrible long term option. He didn't recruit or they failed to have a elite recruiter on that side of the ball. Recruiting mistakes show up later the recruiting on that side of the ball hasn't been good. They are misevaluating players big time especially on the back end. They have brought in a ton of corners and none of them are really good.
 
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Thecycle27 said:
Hard to tell about the level of talent except they definitely aren't on Alabama's level but who is?

I think he messed up defensively with his coaching hires including Grantham. Grantham was a perfect short term fit but terrible long term option. He didn't recruit or they failed to have a elite recruiter on that side of the ball. Recruiting mistakes show up later the recruiting on that side of the ball hasn't been good. They are misevaluating players big time especially on the back end. They have brought in a ton of corners and none of them are really good.
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Recruiting is a train wreck and misleading. We are getting mostly 3 star players but most are not being sought by the better programs. We are basically recruiting against low level programs. They are lower level 3 stars and obviously lack speed and size. Most of these guys could not even make our roster under 1.0.
 
Thecycle27 said:
Hard to tell about the level of talent except they definitely aren't on Alabama's level but who is?

I think he messed up defensively with his coaching hires including Grantham. Grantham was a perfect short term fit but terrible long term option. He didn't recruit or they failed to have a elite recruiter on that side of the ball. Recruiting mistakes show up later the recruiting on that side of the ball hasn't been good. They are misevaluating players big time especially on the back end. They have brought in a ton of corners and none of them are really good.
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Hard to really call three years “long term” - wouldn’t you say? Grantham’s wasn’t exactly a Bud Foster type situation after all. The issue with Grantham IMO was less about recruiting and more about having a too complex scheme for the talent level and depth at Louisville and as importantly, the amount of coaching time that the NCAA allows on a weekly basis. Grantham recruited well at Georgia and I suspect that he’ll recruit well at Florida. Unfortunately UofL does not recruit itself like those schools do - so it’s gotta be a total staff effort. BP has never shown any interest in assisting recruiting on that side of the ball in any meaningful way - that’s an issue.

As for the corners - Jaime Alexander aside - a couple of them were thought highly enough of by Oklahoma and Ohio St. to get scholarships. They looked overmatched against the Gumps - let’s see how they do in conference before saying they suck.
 
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MikeMcCammon said:
Recruiting is a train wreck and misleading. We are getting mostly 3 star players but most are not being sought by the better programs. We are basically recruiting against low level programs. They are lower level 3 stars and obviously lack speed and size. Most of these guys could not even make our roster under 1.0.
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Dude - you just make stuff up to fit your narrative. Many of the guys that excelled in his first stint were 2 star guys that no one else wanted but Petrino (and his staff) saw something in. Plenty of articles over the last 5 years highlighting how other name brand programs make contact with players only after they’ve been recruited or offered by Petrino - specifically because they know Petrino’s record of evaluating talent.

Regardless - we get it - Petrino 2.0 sucks and if he’s not immediately fired, UofL will be worse than EKU. But don’t let me stop you from beating that drum.
 
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Again it wasn't the outcome of playing the Tide that has so many fans pissed off. It was all the stupid penalties and just not being prepared to play. It's annoying to see stupid penalty after stupid penalty when it's just so unnecessary. The lack of execution on simple every day football plays like getting the correct amount of players on the field is nothing short of poor coaching. It's grade school mistakes at the collegiate level. Unacceptable.
 
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Dude - you just make stuff up to fit your narrative. Many of the guys that excelled in his first stint were 2 star guys that no one else wanted but Petrino (and his staff) saw something in. Plenty of articles over the last 5 years highlighting how other name brand programs make contact with players only after they’ve been recruited or offered by Petrino - specifically because they know Petrino’s record of evaluating talent.

Regardless - we get it - Petrino 2.0 sucks and if he’s not immediately fired, UofL will be worse than EKU. But don’t let me stop you from beating that drum.
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Not making anything up. Either you can't read or you have no idea about our recruiting at that time. Harry Douglas was a perfect example. He was a 2 star recruit yet he also had offers from Auburn and Pitt. Many of our 3 star recruits then had top level SEC offers similar to the 3 star recruits Strong was able to bring in from Florida. There is no recruiting like that here now and worse yet, Petrino no longer develops the talent he has. Why you guys keep inventing nonsense to defend this crap I have no idea.
 
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Not making anything up. Either you can't read or you have no idea about our recruiting at that time. Harry Douglas was a perfect example. He was a 2 star recruit yet he also had offers from Auburn and Pitt. Many of our 3 star recruits then had top level SEC offers similar to the 3 star recruits Strong was able to bring in from Florida. There is no recruiting like that here now and worse yet, Petrino no longer develops the talent he has. Why you guys keep inventing nonsense to defend this crap I have no idea.
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On its face your example sounds impressive until you consider that in the previous two seasons to HD signing with UofL, both Auburn and Pittsburgh went 16-9 and neither played what could remotely be called an exciting or WR friendly offense. Pretty easy to understand why he would want to play for the hot, innovative offensive genius – and not Tommy Tuberville.

If you want to bitch about Petrino’s recruiting - you might want to use a different personnel group other than WRs - lol.
 
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BPGhost said:
On its face your example sounds impressive until you consider that in the previous two seasons to HD signing with UofL, both Auburn and Pittsburgh went 16-9 and neither played what could remotely be called an exciting or WR friendly offense. Pretty easy to understand why he would want to play for the hot, innovative offensive genius – and not Tommy Tuberville.

If you want to bitch about Petrino’s recruiting - you might want to use a different personnel group other than WRs - lol.
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LOL. Not sure if serious. You are seriously claiming Auburn was not a good program then and we should not have been interested in their recruits? Douglas is just one example of the point. There were many more. Like I said, you were apparently not around at that time. We were competing against good SEC programs for players at that time. Petrino was taking recruiting to another level after we got out of C-USA. I love how you history revisionists ignore the talent we had then and where we stood nationally as a program. Bottom line, there is no way we will be back in the top 10 with the talent level we have now.
 
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LOL. Not sure if serious. You are seriously claiming Auburn was not a good program then and we should not have been interested in their recruits? Douglas is just one example of the point. There were many more. Like I said, you were apparently not around at that time. We were competing against good SEC programs for players at that time. Petrino was taking recruiting to another level after we got out of C-USA. I love how you history revisionists ignore the talent we had then and where we stood nationally as a program. Bottom line, there is no way we will be back in the top 10 with the talent level we have now.
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No, i’m saying it’s not hard to understand why a wide receiver would want to come play for Bobby Petrino rather than Tommy Tuberville. What part about that don’t you get? Not that I guess it matters but, why do you assert that HD was an “auburn recruit”?Was HD an auburn recruit that UofL offered or, the other way around?

Again if you want to make a point about Petrino’s lack of recruiting success this time around, you probably want to use different personnel group other than WRs. He beat Michigan and Nebraska for Dez, Ole Miss, unc, Nebraska and miss st for Jaylen and Michigan st, Ohio st and Tennessee for Seth.
 
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BPGhost said:
No, i’m saying it’s not hard to understand why a wide receiver would want to come play for Bobby Petrino rather than Tommy Tuberville. What part about that don’t you get? Not that I guess it matters but, why do you assert that HD was an “auburn recruit”?Was HD an auburn recruit that UofL offered or, the other way around?

Again if you want to make a point about Petrino’s lack of recruiting success this time around, you probably want to use different personnel group other than WRs. He beat Michigan and Nebraska for Dez, Ole Miss, unc, Nebraska and miss st for Jaylen and Michigan st, Ohio st and Tennessee for Seth.
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What is the point of discussing individual players and positions regarding current vs prior recruiting success. The bottom line is we got better players back then and regardless of the exceptions they were recruited by more good programs than the players we are getting now. At some point even you have to look at your arguments based on the teams we put on the field then versus now and admit the talent level difference is not disputable, even by people who can't bear criticizing Petrino 2.0. In year 4 of Petrino 1.0 no team in the country was better or deeper than we were. In year 5 of Petrino 2.0 we are not even a top 40 team more than likely.
 
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Not making anything up. Either you can't read or you have no idea about our recruiting at that time. Harry Douglas was a perfect example. He was a 2 star recruit yet he also had offers from Auburn and Pitt. Many of our 3 star recruits then had top level SEC offers similar to the 3 star recruits Strong was able to bring in from Florida. There is no recruiting like that here now and worse yet, Petrino no longer develops the talent he has. Why you guys keep inventing nonsense to defend this crap I have no idea.
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In 2007 the recruiting was ranked in the mid 40's . In 2016 it was the low 30's. Not sure what your point is.
 
MikeMcCammon said:
What is the point of discussing individual players and positions regarding current vs prior recruiting success. The bottom line is we got better players back then and regardless of the exceptions they were recruited by more good programs than the players we are getting now. At some point even you have to look at your arguments based on the teams we put on the field then versus now and admit the talent level difference is not disputable, even by people who can't bear criticizing Petrino 2.0. In year 4 of Petrino 1.0 no team in the country was better or deeper than we were. In year 5 of Petrino 2.0 we are not even a top 40 team more than likely.
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If there’s no point in discussing individual players, then I suggest you should have refrained from doing so initially. You seemingly only want to stop doing so now because your example has been proven not to fit your narrative. You can’t back up your assertions about the quality of players recruited (one that was just factually refuted in the post above) and signed by UofL during Petrino’s first stint and now - all you have is your belief.

You should really start to traffic in the objective because your subjective arguments fall flat. I know that you really super-duper believe them though - as evidenced by the sheer number of posts saying the same thing - lol.
 
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Sure, we should decline the opportunity to play the national champion, cashing a $3 million paycheck, and letting our players speak to the media.

Thankfully, message board posters don't get to make these decisions...
 
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zipp said:
Sure, we should decline the opportunity to play the national champion, cashing a $3 million paycheck, and letting our players speak to the media.

Thankfully, message board posters don't get to make these decisions...
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There's PLENTY of ways to get paid in college football without getting your ass handed to you in primetime!!LOL

The media smack talk backfired, BIG TIME! UofL needs to handle their business better. Pissing off the best coach in the business isn't the proper way to go about doing things.
 
More like over confidence I think. You can exude confidence without calling out the other team.
 
td75 said:
Alabama has been on a NFL level the past 10 years, winning championship after championship. Last night's game proved to be a dumbass decision.

The only thing dumber is Petrino letting his players talk shit in the media about beating Alabama. Louisville has always had their fair share of stupid athletes in my time watching the program. Letting these type of players in front of a microphone is a bad idea.

What a bad opening night for UofL. Brohm needs to be approached sooner than later, he really does.
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Lol. Do you even watch the NFL? There’s not one NFL team Bama could beat not even Cleveland.

Yep that’s it fire Bobby because he lost to the same team most all teams lose too. Although their not an NFL caliber team they are at the top of the college game.

I didn’t wave a white flag and I attended the game. Was I shocked at the outcome....nope. Just look at FSU last year or USC several years ago. Could we have played better sure. But I’ll hold judgment until the end of the season.

And why Brohm. I think he’s 7-7 right now. That’s not impressive.

Note: Puma passed for more yards against Bama then any team Bama played last year.
 
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