Petrino Part Deux.

[CardX]

I know there are a lot of programs that would kill for this:

9-4
8-5
9-4
8-4

But I think we've all expected just a little bit more. Maybe 11-2 or 10-3 or better sprinkled in there somewhere. Eventually, and the likelihood of it being next season is remote, Petrino is going to have to take the program to the next level. Get over the Clemson hump, stop losing games the Cards should win, consistently be a good football team. There has been flashes of it. Even in some losses, we've all thought "this team is good." Then they lay an egg somewhere down the line. I don't know what the answer is. All I know is 9-4, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4 isn't good enough. That's saying a lot considering where we were at 20 years ago (1-10 playing in a baseball stadium.)

 

[Cue Card]

I know there are a lot of programs that would kill for this:

9-4
8-5
9-4
8-4

But I think we've all expected just a little bit more. Maybe 11-2 or 10-3 or better sprinkled in there somewhere. Eventually, and the likelihood of it being next season is remote, Petrino is going to have to take the program to the next level. Get over the Clemson hump, stop losing games the Cards should win, consistently be a good football team. There has been flashes of it. Even in some losses, we've all thought "this team is good." Then they lay an egg somewhere down the line. I don't know what the answer is. All I know is 9-4, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4 isn't good enough. That's saying a lot considering where we were at 20 years ago (1-10 playing in a baseball stadium.)

All true statements, and it is equally true that there are a lot of programs out there that expect more. This UofL football program is NOW one that we expect more than 8 or 9 wins from. I honestly feel we have grown to the point that a double digit win total is expected each year and anything short of that is falling below expectations.

It's our nature as humans to always want more. 8 or 9 wins 20 years ago was an awesome achievement. Now it's not living up to expectations. That's a good thing. We WANT that national football championship trophy. Anything less is underachieving.

Go CARDS!!!!

 

[Knucklehank1]

I think the Cards get over the hump once we see the fruits of some balanced recruiting. Strong didn’t leave enough o-line and Petrino didn’t recruit enough d-line. I think that imbalance is finally being corrected. I expect next year to be a grind, given that we have one of the toughest schedules in the country. After that I expect us to be a legitimate threat to win the conference.

 

[Mayoman]

To both of these posters, I say "Balderdash".

Cards are not playing CUSA/BE/AAC type competition any more....ask CBP what he thinks about the ACC vs those leagues when Cards were in them. He is the one that has to prepare his teams to play those guys.

It takes much longer to build the depth and have ALL the facilities in place to become a Top Tier Team in a Top Tier League like that the ACC is now and will only become stronger. Rome wasn't built in a day....but UofL is getting closer.

Having said all that....championships should be and always have been the goal for UofL Sports Teams since the beginning of even the MVC days in CBB.

It's a process.....one that takes much more than you guys are acknowledging at least.

Some on here have the UK entitlement mentality and have forgotten that you have to earn your way up to greatness....it is just not handed to you. Denny Crum was living proof of that.

 

[CardX]

To both of these posters, I say "Balderdash".

Cards are not playing CUSA/BE/AAC type competition any more....ask CBP what he thinks about the ACC vs those leagues when Cards were in them. He is the one that has to prepare his teams to play those guys.

It takes much longer to build the depth and have ALL the facilities in place to become a Top Tier Team in a Top Tier League like that the ACC is now and will only become stronger. Rome wasn't built in a day....but UofL is getting closer.

Having said all that....championships should be and always have been the goal for UofL Sports Teams since the beginning of even the MVC days in CBB.

It's a process.....one that takes much more than you guys are acknowledging at least.

Some on here have the UK entitlement mentality and have forgotten that you have to earn your way up to greatness....it is just not handed to you. Denny Crum was living proof of that.

No one feels entitled. That accusation is the true "balderdash." Given Petrino's talent as a coach, 8 and 9 wins per season seems, well, underwhelming. He had Arkansas humming along at 10-3 and 11-2 in 2010 and 2011 in what many consider the toughest conference in America. No reason to think he couldn't do that here. But, he hasn't.

And, I disagree about your interpretation of the process. Year 3 of a coaching regime is widely considered the benchmark. That's when they have their own stamp on the program. Yet, here we are at year 4. I don't see consistency of a good football team. I wonder how much time he's going to need.

 

[Morgantown Card]

I know there are a lot of programs that would kill for this:

9-4
8-5
9-4
8-4

But I think we've all expected just a little bit more. Maybe 11-2 or 10-3 or better sprinkled in there somewhere. Eventually, and the likelihood of it being next season is remote, Petrino is going to have to take the program to the next level. Get over the Clemson hump, stop losing games the Cards should win, consistently be a good football team. There has been flashes of it. Even in some losses, we've all thought "this team is good." Then they lay an egg somewhere down the line. I don't know what the answer is. All I know is 9-4, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4 isn't good enough. That's saying a lot considering where we were at 20 years ago (1-10 playing in a baseball stadium.)

I think you can simultaneously say you expect more, but understand that AS A FAN you should be happy with what you have and the risk of pushing for change. For example, Nebraska. They won 3 national titles in the 1990's, so that became the norm for them. Then Frank Solich comes in, went 9-4, 12-1 (national runner-ups), 10-2, 11-2, 7-7, and was fired after going 9-3. Look at them ever since. It's hard to find an upper-tier coach. I mean yeah you can be Georgia and fire a guy who averaged 9-3 in the SEC over 15 years, and THEN hire Kirby Smart and get in the CFP in Year 2; that's the reward. But you can also hire a Steve Kragthorpe, that's the risk.

Personally, especially right now, I'll choose happy with what we have. The program doesn't have a president or AD, and it also has a BOT that is unpredictable and not exactly friendly. I know that you are not saying Petrino needs fired, that would be crazy. But I will say that we better hope Petrino stays through this unstable time. Who knows what kind of hire this leadership would make.

 

[CardX]

I think you can simultaneously say you expect more, but understand that AS A FAN you should be happy with what you have and the risk of pushing for change. For example, Nebraska. They won 3 national titles in the 1990's, so that became the norm for them. Then Frank Solich comes in, went 9-4, 12-1 (national runner-ups), 10-2, 11-2, 7-7, and was fired after going 9-3. Look at them ever since. It's hard to find an upper-tier coach. I mean yeah you can be Georgia and fire a guy who averaged 9-3 in the SEC over 15 years, and THEN hire Kirby Smart and get in the CFP in Year 2; that's the reward. But you can also hire a Steve Kragthorpe, that's the risk.

Personally, especially right now, I'll choose happy with what we have. The program doesn't have a president or AD, and it also has a BOT that is unpredictable and not exactly friendly. I know that you are not saying Petrino needs fired, that would be crazy. But I will say that we better hope Petrino stays through this unstable time. Who knows what kind of hire this leadership would make.

Yes, I am unequivocally not pushing for change. It's kind of like Dalton from Road House. Everyone said "I thought you'd be bigger." Well, I thought we would be better. But, things aren't bad.

 

[Cue Card]

I'm not pushing for change either. Only stating I want more. I expect more. We have a great football coach and he will do more. I am confident of that.

Go CARDS!!!

 

[davecmc]

Yes, I am unequivocally not pushing for change. It's kind of like Dalton from Road House. Everyone said "I thought you'd be bigger." Well, I thought we would be better. But, things aren't bad.

Exactly. Bobby needs to start ripping throats out to prove himself

 

[nccardfan]

Don’t just look at the final numbers. How many ranked teams did we beat in that 4 year span. How many of those teams finished ranked. How many did we lose that we were favored or should have won? How many upsets did we pull?

I guess what I’m asking is are we overachieving or underachieving? Meeting goals and expectations? Not by the fan base because you may never completely satisfied them, but by the so called experts.

 

[PRPclass76]

Don’t just look at the final numbers. How many ranked teams did we beat in that 4 year span. How many of those teams finished ranked. How many did we lose that we were favored or should have won? How many upsets did we pull?

I guess what I’m asking is are we overachieving or underachieving? Meeting goals and expectations? Not by the fan base because you may never completely satisfied them, but by the so called experts.

The most encouraging thing I'm seeing at present is an uptick in recruiting. We have a chance over the next two weekends to take our class into the Top 10-15 range. I can't believe that our last DC, a man who coached DL in the NFL, did such a piss poor job of recruiting at that position. Now, can possible land an Emmitt Gooden, who will be the biggest DT recruit since Ted Washington. That's how we go to 11-1 and 10-2.

 

[Mayoman]

No one feels entitled. That accusation is the true "balderdash." Given Petrino's talent as a coach, 8 and 9 wins per season seems, well, underwhelming. He had Arkansas humming along at 10-3 and 11-2 in 2010 and 2011 in what many consider the toughest conference in America. No reason to think he couldn't do that here. But, he hasn't.

And, I disagree about your interpretation of the process. Year 3 of regime is widely considered the benchmark. That's when they have their own stamp on the program. Yet, here we are at year 4. I don't see consistency of a good football team. I wonder how much time he's going to need.[/QUOTE]

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Mayo:

"All I know is 9-4, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4 isn't good enough."Quote from CardX

Those are your words in your first post. If that is not the epitome of entitlement...then one of us has an interpretation problem.

There is a difference between an 'accusation' and a statement.

Arkansas has been in the SEC for along time and had the luxury of recruiting as an SEC team long before CBP became coach. UofL only attained the status of an ACC P5 team the same year CBP was brought back as coach. It is not an apples to apples comparison on the type of players he inherited at UA vs UofL.

How did you arrive at the Year 3 is the benchmark statement? Please explain this rational or cite the source. Or is that your benchmark?

Please define what you mean by consistency of a good football team? How much does W/L record factor into your definition and understanding? Please enlighten the rest of us as to what that means.

IMO, those records are better than average or better than one/two games above .500. A lot of teams would love to have 2 nine game seasons and a possible 3rd in 4 years with bowl games. I know that Kragthorpe would have loved that kind of success here.

I wonder how much time any coach would need without the benefit of majority 4 and 5 star players to rise to the upper tier of T-10 and FF status on a yearly basis if at all. Good things come to those who have patience and fortitude.

You have to be a tough nut to be a UofL fan....it is not for the faint of heart.

 

[CardX]

No one feels entitled. That accusation is the true "balderdash." Given Petrino's talent as a coach, 8 and 9 wins per season seems, well, underwhelming. He had Arkansas humming along at 10-3 and 11-2 in 2010 and 2011 in what many consider the toughest conference in America. No reason to think he couldn't do that here. But, he hasn't.

And, I disagree about your interpretation of the process. Year 3 of regime is widely considered the benchmark. That's when they have their own stamp on the program. Yet, here we are at year 4. I don't see consistency of a good football team. I wonder how much time he's going to need.

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Mayo:

"All I know is 9-4, 8-5, 9-4, 8-4 isn't good enough."Quote from CardX

Those are your words in your first post. If that is not the epitome of entitlement...then one of us has an interpretation problem.

There is a difference between an 'accusation' and a statement.

Arkansas has been in the SEC for along time and had the luxury of recruiting as an SEC team long before CBP became coach. UofL only attained the status of an ACC P5 team the same year CBP was brought back as coach. It is not an apples to apples comparison on the type of players he inherited at UA vs UofL.

How did you arrive at the Year 3 is the benchmark statement? Please explain this rational or cite the source. Or is that your benchmark?

Please define what you mean by consistency of a good football team? How much does W/L record factor into your definition and understanding? Please enlighten the rest of us as to what that means.

IMO, those records are better than average or better than one/two games above .500. A lot of teams would love to have 2 nine game seasons and a possible 3rd in 4 years with bowl games. I know that Kragthorpe would have loved that kind of success here.

I wonder how much time any coach would need without the benefit of majority 4 and 5 star players to rise to the upper tier of T-10 and FF status on a yearly basis if at all. Good things come to those who have patience and fortitude.

You have to be a tough nut to be a UofL fan....it is not for the faint of heart.[/QUOTE]

I think we have different definitions of "entitlement." I'm not demanding more wins- just thought we would have more at this point. Regarding the three year mark, Krags was fired after year 3. Charlie was fired from Texas after year 3. It's not uncommon knowledge that if a coach isn't getting it done after year 3, it's curtains. It's not my benchmark. It's everyone else's.

We also seem confused about the definition of consistency. Clemson consistently wins. Bama is consistently in the playoff top 4. OSU is consistently in the conversation. We don't. We aren't. I don't feel entitled to those things. I would enjoy those things. I would enjoy more than 8,9 wins a season. I thought we would be there by now.

 

[Mayoman]

Card X:

I think we have different definitions of "entitlement." I'm not demanding more wins- just thought we would have more at this point. Regarding the three year mark, Krags was fired after year 3. Charlie was fired from Texas after year 3. It's not uncommon knowledge that if a coach isn't getting it done after year 3, it's curtains. It's not my benchmark. It's everyone else's.

We also seem confused about the definition of consistency. Clemson consistently wins. Bama is consistently in the playoff top 4. OSU is consistently in the conversation. We don't. We aren't. I don't feel entitled to those things. I would enjoy those things. I would enjoy more than 8,9 wins a season. I thought we would be there by now.



Mayo response: Para 1: Krags and Charlie had .500 or losing records. That is a long way form CBP's record at UofL. How long did it take Dabo at CU or Beamer at VT to get it done? or Saban at Bama? 3 years may be the benchmark for losing rcd coaches but not winning at the clip CBP is. CU didn't always show this consistency you speak of and only recently has Bama become the giant they are now. (i.e. Shula, Francione, etc.)

But when you aspire for T10 and FF....3 years is way too unrealistic, (even 4) especially at a school that has never been there (FF) in CFB and seldom in the final T10 rankings in its existence.

UofL haven't been in the conversation as a P5 school except for the brief time last year before the 3 game tail swoon at the end of the year. CBP 1.0; the Cards were an exception...but times and CFB were different then.

I agree with you on the "I would enjoy those things too!" But the Cards are not there...yet.

Perhaps they may not ever get there. However, I like the chances with CBP as HC. Get him some 4 stars and a couple of 5's and he just might get there.

Unlike you, I only hoped that we would be there. Thinking the Cards would be there by now is akin to taking it for granted and is your issue...and only sets you up for disappointment and the angst you are currently feeling when they fall short.

Don't get me wrong....having lofty goals should be the norm....but expecting it to happen..is a hard road to hoe. Tamper your expectations...and you will be happier with UofL FB.....the choice is yours. I do appreciate your zeal though!

 

[Cardinal Cash]

The way I see it, if I live to be 70 I will likely see the cards in the playoff at least once if not 2-3 times. That would mean we would win the ACC based off of the current standard of ACC champion gets to the playoff. In 48 years I expect to see at least one playoff appearance. Wake forest has won the ACC in the last 11 years.

 

[zipp]

I posted conference win %s a couple months ago when the past season was just underway. The updated numbers below reflect the full 2017 regular season plus conference championship games. The decimal values are the win %s for the last four years. In our case, that brackets the entirety of our ACC membership as well as Bobby 2.0.

The red and green arrows and numbers are the position changes from the three-year totals at the end of the 2016 season. These additional numbers reflect what kind of season each team had with respect to the other 63 teams.

In our case, we are ranked 13th among the P5 conference schools, and we dropped 5 spots in the ranking from last year (8th).

I believe that conference win % is a truer indication of success than an overall W-L percentage which can be padded by easy OOC games. A rank of 13th puts us at just about the cut point for the top quintile of institutions. It's true that the season just completed was a step back.

The overall position of #13 puts us alongside of Michigan State and Washington, and ahead of football factories like Penn State, LSU, and Michigan. These aren't stats of debatable relevancy either; nothing is more relevant than wins and losses.

Petrino would be the first guy to tell you he's a little disappointed with this past season. And that's about as negative as you can really be with an objective analysis like this. IMO his overall results are in every way acceptable compared to these other schools. We ain't Clemson, and we're not gonna be Clemson anytime soon. We're consistently a good football program working to get better, which is fine with me...

 

[zipp]

And a little historical perspective...

There are four ACC teams over 0.600 all time in-conference. Here are those schools and their records:

Florida State 165-43 0.793
Virginia Tech 80-32 0.714
Clemson 296-145 0.669
Louisville 21-11 0.656

FSU and Clemson aren't quickly and appreciably changing their W-L percentages because of the number of games in the calculation, 200+ for FSU and 400+ for Clemson. Virginia Tech is 0.531 the last four years, so they're gradually moving toward you. Where we currently sit, U of L is one win behind Clemson...22-10 equals 0.688. For example, a 6-2 season for us next year moves us ahead of the Tigers.

A 4-4 year for Tech brings them down to 0.700.

In a few years, the path that Petrino is on could easily put us #2 behind FSU all time in ACC football win percentage...

 

[Thecycle27]

The reality is when Louisville made the move to the ACC it was a major step up in class. West Viriginia found out that the Big 12 was a big step up in class. Louisville consistently had the top or near the top recruiting classes in the Big East/AAC. In essence they were the Clemson or FSU of those conference. They performed like that, minus the Krag years. That isn't a coincidence. Now they are recruiting in the middle of the ACC. Their performance on the field reflects that in wins and losses.

Louisville is a program that is in the 4th year of the conference. I believe Petrino has found a staff that he is comfortable with and they appear to winning some recruiting battles. Like someone mentioned in a earlier post they have had an imbalance in recruiting. Strong recruited terrific for his style of defense but they didn't do a good job recruiting the Oline. It took Petrino time to figure out his plan. I think we all excited about the Oline changes.

Offensively they are built to be very good for the upcoming years. They are building really good depth across the board. The question with Petrino, as always, is can they figure out the defense. The front 7 is a major concern for next year. Hopefully that will get addressed in this class.

Coaching is not the issue with Petrino, the question, for any school that is trying to crack the playoff nut is can they recruit at a Top 20 level? History is pretty clear you better recruit in the Top 10 year in year out or you have no shot at winning it all. You can get to the playoff but chances are you will get handled like MSU and Washington. I think we all know Louisville is not going to recruit at that level so enter the various years with tempered expectations.

 

[gocds]

Don’t just look at the final numbers. How many ranked teams did we beat in that 4 year span. How many of those teams finished ranked. How many did we lose that we were favored or should have won? How many upsets did we pull?

I guess what I’m asking is are we overachieving or underachieving? Meeting goals and expectations? Not by the fan base because you may never completely satisfied them, but by the so called experts.

I have to ask whom would you rather we had over these past four seasons? And would that person(s) have had a better record versus ANYONE? We aren’t playing in the CUSA, Big East or AAC any longer. The ACC is one of the toughest conferences in the country. May be the best conference. So Bobby part 2 has had a much tougher row to hoe than CCS or any of his predecessors. But with that said, I’d still like to know whom you would rather we had as a head coach during those four years. Perfect? - not quite but pretty damn good. But that’s just my opinion.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[nccardfan]

I have to ask whom would you rather we had over these past four seasons? And would that person(s) have had a better record versus ANYONE? We aren’t playing in the CUSA, Big East or AAC any longer. The ACC is one of the toughest conferences in the country. May be the best conference. So Bobby part 2 has had a much tougher row to hoe than CCS or any of his predecessors. But with that said, I’d still like to know whom you would rather we had as a head coach during those four years. Perfect? - not quite but pretty damn good. But that’s just my opinion.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

I’m not advocating for anyone else like other posters. I’m simply asking if CBP is over performing, maintaining status quo or under achieving? Just like my bosses do at work.

 

[nccardfan]

And a little historical perspective...

There are four ACC teams over 0.600 all time in-conference. Here are those schools and their records:

Florida State 165-43 0.793
Virginia Tech 80-32 0.714
Clemson 296-145 0.669
Louisville 21-11 0.656

FSU and Clemson aren't quickly and appreciably changing their W-L percentages because of the number of games in the calculation, 200+ for FSU and 400+ for Clemson. Virginia Tech is 0.531 the last four years, so they're gradually moving toward you. Where we currently sit, U of L is one win behind Clemson...22-10 equals 0.688. For example, a 6-2 season for us next year moves us ahead of the Tigers.

A 4-4 year for Tech brings them down to 0.700.

In a few years, the path that Petrino is on could easily put us #2 behind FSU all time in ACC football win percentage...

All this data is discountable because you say historical data and yet you are comparing 30 games vs hundreds. We didn’t advocate getting into the ACC because we were a mediocre team. We were a rising program unlike original members who have started from the beginning. Your data indicates that we continue on a trend. All programs suffer ups and downs depending on their coaching hires, injuries, schedules etc. You seriously need to go work at Walmart or something.

 

[Mayoman]

All this data is discountable because you say historical data and yet you are comparing 30 games vs hundreds. We didn’t advocate getting into the ACC because we were a mediocre team. We were a rising program unlike original members who have started from the beginning. Your data indicates that we continue on a trend. All programs suffer ups and downs depending on their coaching hires, injuries, schedules etc. You seriously need to go work at Walmart or something.

Boo.

You seriously need to go back to school. His data is fine. You obviously missed his point(s). Walmart....Really?

 

[gocds]

I’m not advocating for anyone else like other posters. I’m simply asking if CBP is over performing, maintaining status quo or under achieving? Just like my bosses do at work.

Hmmmmmm, you must be one of those original anti-Pitrino guys. I’d say he’s doing just fine considering that the ACC schedule is much, MUCH tougher than any we have ever faced. Period. Yes there have been games we should have won and some that we won that perhaps we shouldn’t have. The three game slide last season was beyond disappointing. But there were other issues at hand that had to be dealt with. Plus our three game finish this year was fantastic. We just need to win the bowl game to complete the year successfully.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

I have to ask whom would you rather we had over these past four seasons?

This is really a great point. I was concerned early in the season about the trend, but I always thought your response above was the perfect "come back" against anybody that was frustrated.

We were trending the wrong way for a window of time but I feel the program is trending back up after the performances late in the season, using an eye test criteria analysis!

 

[zipp]

Pay no attention to nc's replies to me... He has a hard-on over me that's predictable and transcends this thread. I own a little piece of his little mind...

 

[nccardfan]

Boo.

You seriously need to go back to school. His data is fine. You obviously missed his point(s). Walmart....Really?

You might need to go back to school if you think using percentages on such a small sample of games means anything. Matter of fact with those games, you would think we should have the highest percentage, not fourth.

 

[Mayoman]

You might need to go back to school if you think using percentages on such a small sample of games means anything. Matter of fact with those games, you would think we should have the highest percentage, not fourth.

You so silly! If you took Statistics....you need to go get your money back.

 

[nccardfan]

You so silly! If you took Statistics....you need to go get your money back.

I don’t need statistics to tell me the only stats that matter among those 4 schools are the following:

Cards 2-5 vs VT
Cards 4-14 vs FSU
Cards 0-4 vs Clemson

I don’t need records against other ACC schools to tell me what we need to do.

PS - I didn’t pay to take classes. They paid me...

 

[Cardinal Cash]

I don’t need statistics to tell me the only stats that matter among those 4 schools are the following:

Cards 2-5 vs VT
Cards 4-14 vs FSU
Cards 0-4 vs Clemson

I don’t need records against other ACC schools to tell me what we need to do.

PS - I didn’t pay to take classes. They paid me...

You’re asking for too much. It will take time for us to reach the level of those programs. And we are on the rise. We will get victories against FSU and Clemson, but even the best programs in the country would say they have a 50-50 shot when those teams are at their peak. Clemson has been on a run like never before and we’ve beaten FSU twice in their recent downturn. We are not a blue blood program. If you want better records against those teams, you have to get better recruiting classes as discussed.

 

[zipp]

Not that his comments dignify answers, but the last two years against those three teams, we're 2-2. And those are the two years that matter most.

I'll predict right now that after 2018, that record will be 3-3. And those will be the three years that matter most...

 

[Rollem Cards]

PS - I didn’t pay to take classes. They paid me...

Well isn’t that special.

We paid Cooper and Kragthorpe.

 

[nccardfan]

Not that his comments dignify answers, but the last two years against those three teams, we're 2-2. And those are the two years that matter most.

I'll predict right now that after 2018, that record will be 3-3. And those will be the three years that matter most...

Sure we beat FSU so did 6 other teams. They had to beat a FCS school to get bowl eligible.

 

[nccardfan]

Pay no attention to nc's replies to me... He has a hard-on over me that's predictable and transcends this thread. I own a little piece of his little mind...

Haha.. that’s actually the third time you mentioned having a hardon.. I guess it’s you that has a fixation on it. And by the way I’m married and I have seen your face on the news holding up the banner. No thanks!

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

I don’t need statistics to tell me the only stats that matter among those 4 schools are the following:

Cards 2-5 vs VT

LOLOLOL wow man. None of those games vs VT have been played within a decade.

UofL has played VT one time in the last 25 years. One time!!!! In 25 years.

That 2-5 record vs VT is completely irrelevant today, and you are saying somehow this record matters.

Be honest. Come clean. You had no idea UofL has played VT one time in the last 25 years.

Or, are you going to go full weapons moron on us and try to convince us a random 2-5 lifetime record against a team UofL has played once in the last 25 years is meaningful?

Which is it?

 

[zipp]

Watch it, hop, or you'll have a pyscho-stalker on your hands...

 

[gocds]

Sure we beat FSU so did 6 other teams. They had to beat a FCS school to get bowl eligible.

WOW, you should just be honest and tell us how much you dislike Bobby Petrino. Your tirade about us being 2-5 vs VaTech is just moronic.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

WOW, you should just be honest and tell us how much you dislike Bobby Petrino. Your tirade about us being 2-5 vs VaTech is just moronic.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

I'm not sure if he dislikes Petrino.

I think he likes to play the contrarian and keep UofL grounded, which is a strange position to take on a daily basis, which he does.

It's also odd in a sense that there isn't too much over the top kool-aid being drank on these boards - in fact the board has been honest mostly in the product we've seen this year, and not claimed some kind of superiority historically in any way.

The board does take aim at UK quite a bit - and that seems to be problematic for him. It's unclear why he takes that personal. He had a lot to say about the game prior to it being played this year, wanting everybody's position on it before it was played, as if he had a hunch UK was going to win. He's gone pretty silent on the topic since the game was over. At least the result shut him up about it I guess?

Nobody has claimed greatness, or predicted Alabama is in big trouble when we play next year.

Honestly the poster is just bad most of the time.

He came armed to this thread with nuggets like a 2-5 record against a team played once in the prior 25 years. That's the kind of analysis that should get him fired. Normally I ignore him but there are times he is so terrible he needs to be quoted.

His personal hate for Zipp compares to how UK fans feel about Zipp.

One could argue the guy is a UK fan with the body of work he's shared over time here.

I don't think he's a UK fan. I just think he's a terrible poster.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Watch it, hop, or you'll have a pyscho-stalker on your hands...

At least when you and I argue we come at each other with legit talking points and move on shortly thereafter. His lust for you is strong, you may want to "watch your back" LOLOLOL

 

[Rollem Cards]

Sure we beat FSU so did 6 other teams. They had to beat a FCS school to get bowl eligible.

We’re 4-14 all-time vs FSU, but........

- we’re 2-2 since 80% of these players were born. (And probably you)
- since John L was here.
- since 2000. Two years after PJCS opened.

We may never beat them again, but today, in the minds of the people who matter-recruits, we can at least compete.

 

[nccardfan]

LOLOLOL wow man. None of those games vs VT have been played within a decade.

UofL has played VT one time in the last 25 years. One time!!!! In 25 years.

That 2-5 record vs VT is completely irrelevant today, and you are saying somehow this record matters.

Be honest. Come clean. You had no idea UofL has played VT one time in the last 25 years.

Or, are you going to go full weapons moron on us and try to convince us a random 2-5 lifetime record against a team UofL has played once in the last 25 years is meaningful?

Which is it?

Look hop, I know that record has no relevance but it is response to Zipps comparison that our 21-11 record somehow compares to the # of games played by FSU, Clemson and VT. Try to follow the thread please instead of reading the last post and coming to a conclusion.