My apologies to Leflores

[rockycard]

I’ve bickered with him all season about our schedule vs Kentucky’s, and the truth is we beat absolutely nobody worth a damn. We did play two more games against top 30 (sagarin) teams than Kentucky, but we were 0-5 in those games (Kentucky was 1-2).

I know that we are young but if our recruiting in the trenches doesn’t improve immediately, we’ll be 6-6 next year with absolutely no good wins. We should be taking advantage of a down ACC, instead we are contributing to it.

 

[KozmasAgain]

Both teams played mediocre schedules

 

[CardsFirst]

I’ve bickered with him all season about our schedule vs Kentucky’s, and the truth is we beat absolutely nobody worth a damn. We did play two more games against top 30 (sagarin) teams than Kentucky, but we were 0-5 in those games (Kentucky was 1-2).

I know that we are young but if our recruiting in the trenches doesn’t improve immediately, we’ll be 6-6 next year with absolutely no good wins. We should be taking advantage of a down ACC, instead we are contributing to it.

I’m right with you. I thought the same thing. Since it’s a rival I thought we could lose, but not get stomped. My son in-law a SuCk fan said Saturday morning that they would route us and I just didn’t see it, but sadly he was right. You’re correct on all counts. We use to have the mojo but SuCk is clearly a head of us now. Sickening. Thanks Bobby!

 

[Morgantown Card]

We should be taking advantage of a down ACC, instead we are contributing to it.

Whoomp, there it is!

 

[Thecycle27]

The biggest mistake Satterfield made was recruiting smaller DLine at this level. It was a big mistake because that isn’t easy to fix once they are here.

They can get away with it against most the the ACC teams but against bigger and more talented lines they get destroyed. There aren’t many 3-4 defenses that can survive with a smaller nose at this level. They will run it right up the middle.

This is a talent issue along with a poor scheme. That is deadly.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Has anyone noticed that the programs that moved to the ACC have not improved? I am talking about recruiting and performance on the field, both in the regular season and postseason. Big East 2006 went 6-0 in bowl games.

To be clear, I'm not advocating that Louisville should have stayed in the AAC. Just making an observation. I could argue that the AAC is better than the ACC in football, and the "new" Big East is better than the ACC in basketball. I miss the old days. I can't get excited about any of the ACC "rivals" because none of these guys care about football.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

I’ve bickered with him all season about our schedule vs Kentucky’s, and the truth is we beat absolutely nobody worth a damn. We did play two more games against top 30 (sagarin) teams than Kentucky, but we were 0-5 in those games (Kentucky was 1-2).

I know that we are young but if our recruiting in the trenches doesn’t improve immediately, we’ll be 6-6 next year with absolutely no good wins. We should be taking advantage of a down ACC, instead we are contributing to it.

My point was that I think we underestimate the higher ends on their schedule versus ours was better, our quality top to bottom was better, but the high end type games aren't factored in.

They had UGA, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, & Miss State who were really strong teams. Then decent teams like Louisville, SC & Mizzou. Then Vandy and their 2 other trash non conference cupcake

Their SOS is weighed down because they have those MAC & FCS teams as their non-conference games where we had Ole Miss & UCF.

We played Ole Miss and Clemson as strong teams plus UK last, and then Wake, NC State, BC, FSU, Cuse, UVA, & UCF. EKU & Duke the only cupcakes. So our SOS was better top to bottom, but we didn't face much high end talent type teams. I'd say 6-6 against our schedule is good as it's a lot of middle class ACC type teams, but we weren't facing great challenges like say 2014 when FSU & Clemson were both stout along with a solid NC State team, plus add in we had that trip to Notre Dame. We finished with 9 wins and ranked!

I'm not one that thinks the SEC logo alone makes you an amazing team, I mean Pitt beat UT earlier this year and BC with their healthy QB beat Mizzou. But, their mid level teams like SC for example have NFL talent on both sides of the ball a lot of years. Tennessee back a few years ago with Dobbs, Kamara, & Barnett looked amazing but a stretch of App State, Va Tech, Florida, UGA, Tex A&M, and Bama type games just ran them out of gas and down to 8-4. Where in the ACC or Big 12, that team probably would've been 11-1 or 10-2.

Look at LSU, even in a down year they still weren't awful & took down a really strong Texas A&M. Florida & Auburn both played Bama close, Miami wasn't even competitive. Even Florida without a coach and a team that quit and a QB throwing 4 INTs, still beat Florida State.

Now Georgia & Bama are the class of that league and it's not like Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, & Oklahoma programs aren't great because their leagues aren't as strong, but after your top 2-3, who are your next 5?

Ole Miss and sUcKs aren't even the top teams in that league and we saw how they both looked so much stronger compared to NC State & Wake Forest type teams.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Has anyone noticed that the programs that moved to the ACC have not improved? I am talking about recruiting and performance on the field, both in the regular season and postseason. Big East 2006 went 6-0 in bowl games.

To be clear, I'm not advocating that Louisville should have stayed in the AAC. Just making an observation. I could argue that the AAC is better than the ACC in football, and the "new" Big East is better than the ACC in basketball. I miss the old days. I can't get excited about any of the ACC "rivals" because none of these guys care about football.

The new Big 12 just looks more fun. And it'd be a league I feel like in the right year, we could win and compete. No Clemson type team and a lot of teams that are on our level and care. The money aspect makes it impossible to even attempt, but the ACC is just boring to me.

Imagine every year facing WVU, Cincy, UCF, and Houston who are old conference rivals and have similar backstories to ours. Then add in games with Ok State, Baylor, TCU, Iowa State, Kansas State, & BYU? That just feels more interesting. Games and rivalries that matter. A stronger league top to bottom than the ACC. Fan bases that care and would be more fun road trips.

I mean Clemson is Clemson now, they beat us and I don't feel like it's gonna happen. FSU lost it's luster. NC State is kinda interesting but they aren't a powerhouse and don't feel like a rival. Wake, UVA, BC, & Cuse are just snooze-fests and they aren't marquee games we care about. Then on the other side? Miami is dead. Ga Tech, Pitt, Duke, UNC? Anyone really care about those places? Va Tech is the only real interesting matchup and even they're down now. THe ND series is about the only thing interesting we get every few years

In the ACC we really aren't able to dominate, so we don't get that wow domination factor like the Big East/AAC/CUSA days like Cincy is experiencing now. We generally are a mid level ACC team in a league where none of the programs are interesting nor have big fan bases.

 

[Thecycle27]

Has anyone noticed that the programs that moved to the ACC have not improved? I am talking about recruiting and performance on the field, both in the regular season and postseason. Big East 2006 went 6-0 in bowl games.

To be clear, I'm not advocating that Louisville should have stayed in the AAC. Just making an observation. I could argue that the AAC is better than the ACC in football, and the "new" Big East is better than the ACC in basketball. I miss the old days. I can't get excited about any of the ACC "rivals" because none of these guys care about football.

I will say this Miami/VT Pitt and Syracuse made terrible mistake in leaving the Big East for money. I think Oklahoma and Texas are going to figure this out as well.

Football Pitt is doing OK but that is only because the ACC as a whole is a blah football conference. Miami/VT have never been the same. They should of embraced football and grabbed Louisville/WVU and Cincy. The Big East was a good football league and a fabulous basketball league.

ACC football has a big problem.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

I will say this Miami/VT Pitt and Syracuse made terrible mistake in leaving the Big East for money. I think Oklahoma and Texas are going to figure this out as well.

Football Pitt is doing OK but that is only because the ACC as a whole is a blah football conference. Miami/VT have never been the same. They should of embraced football and grabbed Louisville/WVU and Cincy. The Big East was a good football league and a fabulous basketball league.

ACC football has a big problem.

Just imagine if Clemson, Miami, FSU, and Va Tech/UNC? figure that the Big 12 would be a much better option than the ACC and TV companies see that too. A conference that has a way better middle and lower tier.

You'd have FSU, Miami, and UCF in Florida and then Texas Tech, Houston, & Baylor in Texas, the 2 best states for football talent. Clemson alone is a powerhouse and Va Tech/UNC would give them East Coast and Southern territory. Not to mention Cincy/WVU/Iowa State as midwestern type areas.

Would be a much more interesting conference with 16 teams. Clemson/FSU/Miami could come in as kings.

Think about this with pods?

South East: UCF/Miami/FSU/Clemson
Midwest: WVU/Va Tech/Cincy/Iowa State
Texas: Baylor/Houston/TCU/Texas Tech
West: BYU/Ok State/Kansas/K-State

I mean don't think things can't change as they will, the ACC needs to add teams and ND ain't coming any time soon it appears.

 

[glassmanJ]

honestly, i thought our only chance was to score non-stop. if you know anyone who is a uk fan, you know this is the first year since lorenzen that they could throw deep and their WR beats all defenses so it was either going to be 45-42 or 45-10. and sadly, as valvano lieks to say, we enver engaged the battle. as a school in general, that happens a lot, we get confident, get punched in the face then wilt. what was it after the ole miss game satt said they came out and did nothing that they had seen on film. well, that's what you plan for silly, that they may do something different and don't expect the same thing you've seen before.

 

[glassmanJ]

btw, i do not think we'll ever be good enough man on man to beat most sec teams. we have to out scheme them or have a heisman winnign qb but we are simply a top 40 football school getting top 40 recruits and some years it clicks and we go higher and some years we go lower. we will win based on out scheming the competition but i'm not sure how to make that happen

 

[nccardfan]

honestly, i thought our only chance was to score non-stop. if you know anyone who is a uk fan, you know this is the first year since lorenzen that they could throw deep and their WR beats all defenses so it was either going to be 45-42 or 45-10. and sadly, as valvano lieks to say, we enver engaged the battle. as a school in general, that happens a lot, we get confident, get punched in the face then wilt. what was it after the ole miss game satt said they came out and did nothing that they had seen on film. well, that's what you plan for silly, that they may do something different and don't expect the same thing you've seen before.

Yes I heard the Satterfield presser but even I know that Levis was a running QB at Penn St and when they opted for more of a throwing QB he transferred. Why so he could throw more at UK? Do your homework! Getting paid 2.5 million. That’s your job to figure out what they’re going to do.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Yes I heard the Satterfield presser but even I know that Levis was a running QB at Penn St and when they opted for more of a throwing QB he transferred. Why so he could throw more at UK? Do your homework! Getting paid 2.5 million. That’s your job to figure out what they’re going to do.

Remember when Porky said they didn't even watch film on Lamar in 2015? Pretty bad.

 

[Lamar Card]

The new Big 12 just looks more fun. And it'd be a league I feel like in the right year, we could win and compete. No Clemson type team and a lot of teams that are on our level and care. The money aspect makes it impossible to even attempt, but the ACC is just boring to me.

Imagine every year facing WVU, Cincy, UCF, and Houston who are old conference rivals and have similar backstories to ours. Then add in games with Ok State, Baylor, TCU, Iowa State, Kansas State, & BYU? That just feels more interesting. Games and rivalries that matter. A stronger league top to bottom than the ACC. Fan bases that care and would be more fun road trips.

I mean Clemson is Clemson now, they beat us and I don't feel like it's gonna happen. FSU lost it's luster. NC State is kinda interesting but they aren't a powerhouse and don't feel like a rival. Wake, UVA, BC, & Cuse are just snooze-fests and they aren't marquee games we care about. Then on the other side? Miami is dead. Ga Tech, Pitt, Duke, UNC? Anyone really care about those places? Va Tech is the only real interesting matchup and even they're down now. THe ND series is about the only thing interesting we get every few years

In the ACC we really aren't able to dominate, so we don't get that wow domination factor like the Big East/AAC/CUSA days like Cincy is experiencing now. We generally are a mid level ACC team in a league where none of the programs are interesting nor have big fan bases.

Ouch. You make some damn good points, but they are painful to absorb.

 

[Lamar Card]

Remember when Porky said they didn't even watch film on Lamar in 2015? Pretty bad.

Porky wouldn't lie about something like that would he?

 

[earsky]

Yes I heard the Satterfield presser but even I know that Levis was a running QB at Penn St and when they opted for more of a throwing QB he transferred. Why so he could throw more at UK? Do your homework! Getting paid 2.5 million. That’s your job to figure out what they’re going to do.

Levis only wanted to get out one way...up the middle. A few weeks ago I watched the Dolphins stymie LJ by bringing the rush up the middle, which btw is where he also likes to escape. It would've been too late to adjust and bring the rush there after half. Had to be done earlier.
A few stops early in this game on 3rd down might've helped get the D some rest. Might not have mattered,but that 1st half could've gone another way.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Levis only wanted to get out one way...up the middle. A few weeks ago I watched the Dolphins stymie LJ by bringing the rush up the middle, which btw is where he also likes to escape. It would've been too late to adjust and bring the rush there after half. Had to be done earlier.
A few stops early in this game on 3rd down might've helped get the D some rest. Might not have mattered,but that 1st half could've gone another way.

We sold out to stop the run and I think they were trying to not get beat deep either because we couldn’t defend their wideouts at all.

The middle was there all day for Levis, when we didn’t give that up to him then they would be open down field.

 

[nccardfan]

We sold out to stop the run and I think they were trying to not get beat deep either because we couldn’t defend their wideouts at all.

The middle was there all day for Levis, when we didn’t give that up to him then they would be open down field.

Hmmm.. maybe you should have passed a note to CSS.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Hmmm.. maybe you should have passed a note to CSS.

No, I’m saying what was happening. They did the best with the personnel they had, we just were at a mismatch and basically put it on Levis to make plays and maybe get a turnover?

It was damned if we do damned if we don’t

 

[nccardfan]

No, I’m saying what was happening. They did the best with the personnel they had, we just were at a mismatch and basically put it on Levis to make plays and maybe get a turnover?

It was damned if we do damned if we don’t

So what you’re saying, we never had a chance to begin with..