Let me get this straight regarding the fired dance coach.

Discussion in 'Forum: Louisville Football' started by CardX, Feb 4, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. CardX

    CardX Five-Star Poster
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    21,665
    Likes Received:
    3,235
    Location:
    502
    He got removed due to alleged misappropriations of funds, seemingly became disgruntled, then showed up at the downtown Marriott where the preseason baseball banquet was taking place and accidentally shot himself in the leg? Tyra issues a statement that the guy is banned from all UofL activities, and if spotted on campus or at an event, UofL employees should call 911. My goodness!
     
  2. Mike'sMarbles

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    6,766
    Likes Received:
    1,053
    With real life stuff like this going on, I don't get how The Onion stays in business.
     
  3. PHCARD

    PHCARD Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2007
    Messages:
    3,311
    Likes Received:
    3,265
    I want to know why his name was redacted from the police report. That is BS!
     
    gocds likes this.
  4. Louisvillian

    Louisvillian 6000+
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    3,758
    And to top it off, his attorney is none other than lowlife “Trash can” Larry Wilder.

    Trash can Larry said that he and his numb-nuts client who shot himself in the leg will have their say against Louisville Athletics and Vince Tyra before it’s all said and done.

    What happened to the $40 Grand, Trash Can man?
     
  5. PushupMan

    PushupMan Five-Star Poster
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    24,063
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    He appears to have bought at least one gun and one bullet, but he didn’t pay for any shooting lessons.
     
    MEMEBLUE likes this.
  6. Riddle-me-this

    Riddle-me-this New Poster, Show Me Love
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2019
    Messages:
    45
    Likes Received:
    39
    Plus trash can man said his client was looking for the proper people/way to get this in front of UofL. I read that as threat/extortion. Once you lay in the trash you are always a piece of garbage.
     
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  7. CardsFirst

    CardsFirst 6000+
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Messages:
    6,920
    Likes Received:
    4,657
    The nut job said he forgot the gun was in his pocket. Really? If true, which I doubt, he has no business carrying a gun. I could go into greater details about carrying a gun, but I won’t. He’s clearly an idiot.
     
  8. BooneCo_Card

    BooneCo_Card 4000+
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    4,295
    Likes Received:
    704
    Sounds to me like a classic case of Glock Leg, ala Plaxico Burress.
     
  9. Morgantown Card

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2007
    Messages:
    4,193
    Likes Received:
    2,025
    Location:
    Morgantown, WV
    They FARRRR'D that sonofabeyitch
     
  10. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    Who puts a freaking gun in their pocket?
     
    Louisvillian likes this.
  11. Louisvillian

    Louisvillian 6000+
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    3,758
    UofL Athletics & Vince Tyra’s adversaries on this....

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  12. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    "Vince" and U of L brought much of this on themselves. Firing anyone is an emotional event for the person affected. It's why companies take precautions with their soon to be ex-employees in that situation.

    U of L has escalated things multiple times with multiple employees in the last couple of years. They tried to dig up dirt unsuccessfully on Jurich before caving and giving him everything he was entitled to. They fired both Sharp and Ecarma while making very public announcements that both guys were, in essence, not just unwanted employees going forward but bad people.

    And all of these guys were terminated in employer-employee relationships where the employer had the upper hand. None of them had contracts for lifetime employment. U of L simply had to tell them their service was appreciated but no longer needed.

    The problem is/was that the new regime doesn't have the necessary credibility to consistently pull off those terminations without justification. They need the dirt to go along with the dismissal. Didn't need it for Padgett or Petrino, but U of L had what it considered to be job performance reasons for those guys. Not so with a guy like Sharp.

    So U of L raised the stakes for itself, and it's not surprising that eventually it caused some unnecessary drama like this. For the benefit of everyone on his side of the issues facing U of L, Sharp simply needs to remain calm and wait for events to play out...
     
  13. CommodoreCard

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2005
    Messages:
    2,331
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    I read Sharp’s tweet about exposing whatever he thinks he has on UofL. The first reply was from none other than Crypt Keeper Timmy Sullivan, begging Sharp to contact him.

    Actually Sharp got in trouble and fired at Floyd Central before his troubles with UofL. So, does Sharp have this big grudge against Floyd Central? Of course not, they are small potatoes. UofL creates more drama for the attention Sharp desires.
     
  14. beantowncard

    beantowncard Four-Star Poster
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    12,953
    Likes Received:
    5,979
    I don’t remember any “very public announcements” regarding either of these guys. There may have been reporting to that effect, but that’s not a public announcement. The Jurich thing was clumsy and just plain wrong, but there was no “public announcement”in that case either. Seems you’ll take any tidbit of information and somehow try to turn it into an ornament on your Vince NQ tree. Seek help, before you end up in the lobby of a Marriott shooting yourself in the foot (not just rhetorically).
     
    Bardman and BPGhost like this.
  15. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    A university audit found $40,000 was missing from his program.
     
  16. Knucklehank1

    Knucklehank1 6000+
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2004
    Messages:
    7,435
    Likes Received:
    3,523
    Don’t let facts (or missing money) get in the way of one of Zipp’s biased narratives.
     
    BPGhost likes this.
  17. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    A UNIVERSITY audit. The same UNIVERSITY that investigated Ecarma, and immediately afterward saw its VP resign her departmental position.

    You’re running with one side of these stories...
     
  18. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    And as I understand, with the same FC/U of L person besides Sharp at the center of it.

    How do you know firsthand?...
     
    18 zipp, Feb 6, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2020
  19. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    I don’t need your psychoanalysis.

    And I’ll put it this way... U of L was certainly willing to put personnel files in the public domain that would have otherwise been protected from open records requests. That’s “announcing” as far as I’m concerned, and I’ll continue to refer to it that way...
     
  20. cardinalrod

    cardinalrod 2500+
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2005
    Messages:
    2,897
    Likes Received:
    1,042
    Location:
    Earth
    Tyra is doing an awesome job and representing the right way. There are two paths in life and the narrow one has greater reward.
     
    Sawyer and Phillip1295 like this.
  21. CommodoreCard

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2005
    Messages:
    2,331
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    I know a few people on the hill.
     
  22. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    As do I. My niece used to dance for the FC Dazzlers, and my sister-in-law knows Sharp really well. What I'm told is that all of this stems from a falling out between Sharp and one family.

    Irrespective of what we know secondhand, I know firsthand that stealing tens of thousands of dollars is a felony in the State of KY punishable by a minimum of five years in prison. And now the alleged perpetrator is recklessly wielding a gun in public and threatening the U of L AD, while the Louisville metro police and prosecutor's office are aware but turning a blind eye.

    THAT is what I'm evidently supposed to believe...
     
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  23. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    Before you get into some wild conspiracy that Tyra/UofL concocted a plan to to fire Sharp for whatever reason, Sharp isn’t denying that $40,000 was missing, he blamed it on bad bookkeeping. Either way it was his program and a significant amount of money went missing.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wave3.com/2020/02/05/todd-sharp-fired-dance-coach-blames-bad-bookkeeping-parent-problems/?outputType=amp
     
    23 kentuckyshame, Feb 7, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2020
  24. Ipartiedwithhopgood

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    19,013
    Likes Received:
    4,111
    Guy shoots self in leg. Thanks "Vince" !!!!
     
  25. CardX

    CardX Five-Star Poster
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    21,665
    Likes Received:
    3,235
    Location:
    502
    Bad bookkeeping, while intentional or not, is a fireable offense, especially if $40K is missing. The dude admitted he sucked at a pretty important part of his job.
     
    Louisvillian likes this.
  26. CommodoreCard

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2005
    Messages:
    2,331
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    Sharp has made quite a few enemies over the past few years. A lot of personal baggage as well over the last couple years, that I won’t get into. He made his bed. I think he would have been canned eventually even if Jurich was still his boss. You reap what you sew.
     
  27. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    Exactly, UofL doesn’t even have to get into character issues, his firing is totally justified.
     
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  28. PHCARD

    PHCARD Moderator
    Moderator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2007
    Messages:
    3,311
    Likes Received:
    3,265
    In my world if someone steals 40k from me, I file a police report and go after my stolen cash. I don’t believe Sharp’s stories aka excuses about any of it.

    I’m just fricking tired of all the drama that continues to go on with our new mgmt. The drama folks are suppose to be gone? As The UofL World Turns!
     
    CommodoreCard and FlavRunit like this.
  29. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    To be fair to the new management, Sharp is just being a pest that will not go away. UofL did have to get rid of the guy over the missing money, also very sketchy that he wanted fundraising donations to be given to him in cash, or checks made out to him. It will blow over. Hindsight though the university made a great move.
     
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  30. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    You're misreading the transcript posted. The "bookkeeping" reference is to the FC experience, over which he was NOT fired, but reprimanded.

    He's made no admissions about the U of L money. In fact, he and his lawyer claim Sharp was never presented with any evidence by/from U of L.

    And hell yes, it's a valid conspiracy theory when all of the U of L related entities have "U of L" in front of their names and positions.
    And U of L's NOT the job with which he acknowledged "bad bookkeeping".

    Two jobs, two situations, two outcomes...
     
  31. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    You're correct about the criminal charge.

    But the drama ain't going away because the people aren't going away. It's a myth that we needed to clear out the old regime, and everything is fine with Gruesome and a couple of his henchmen gone. You can BELIEVE that, but in my opinion, it has nothing to do with reality...
     
  32. CardX

    CardX Five-Star Poster
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    21,665
    Likes Received:
    3,235
    Location:
    502
    You’re forgetting about the $40K.
     
  33. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    I did not misread. The bookkeeping reference applies to neither job it applies to his inability to account in general, he’s using it as an excuse, additionally it was the same parent who made the claims at FC and UofL.

    He’s made no admissions to either accusations at FC nor at UofL, he wants evidence from UofL (which is valid) but he’s not denying money was missing, he’s going to hide behind his claim of “being bad at bookeeping.” Essentially, if proven in court that money was missing, ignorance will be his argument.

    As far as your conspiracy theory, you’re leaving out the fact that the Louisville PD participated in the review alongside the UofL PD.

    My question to you, being the guy who goes through the UofL fiscal reports with a fine tooth comb, is how are you okay with the fact that this guy directed fundraising payments be paid to him via cash?

    https://www.newsandtribune.com/news...cle_1d85e64e-03b7-11e9-b961-d3c994e78abb.html
     
    33 kentuckyshame, Feb 7, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2020
    CommodoreCard likes this.
  34. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    I appreciate the additional reference, and you're reading what you want to read. The only entity alleging a specific amount of money was taken--$40,000--is U of L. In fact, it clearly says that...

    "Floyd Central Principal Rob Willman said in an email that Sharp resigned from his coaching position several weeks ago. He said it is not the school's policy to discuss staffing matters..."

    A policy by the way, that U of L could also be invoking except that they wanted to publicize their allegations why Sharp was fired.

    So, he was not FIRED from Floyd Central nor do we know what Sharp resigned over except what he's telling you. The "bookkeeper" comment he made to WAVE 3 was immediately after allegations about what went on at Floyd Central.

    As we both acknowledge, U of L's not telling him anything except that he was fired over a missing $40K. Why would Sharp and his attorney admit "bookkeeping" was a U of L issue with no supporting info? (Because that's not what his comment refers to...)

    And the fact that the police were involved in the U of L investigation over $40,000 further supports his position since they haven't filed any criminal charges, i.e., "nothing here." Can you produce a copy of his termination letter, and was it endorsed by the police?

    Not having seen it, I doubt it...
     
  35. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    No, and I think my last post re-clarifies that...
     
  36. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    https://www.newsandtribune.com/todd...pdf_db9e3c46-03dd-11e9-b724-c762c350199e.html

    I never said Sharp was fired from FC. He was however reprimanded by them at one point.

    My last post is saying Sharp will use the excuse of erroneous bookkeeping if he ever does go to trial, which I doubt he will do if he’s smart.

    As far as your last paragraph, you’re 100% assuming his innocence due to the police not bringing charges. After reading Sharp’s termination letter, UofL did fire him over fraudulent charges, it was endorsed by UofL PD, which is a legit PD by the way as they have real cops working for them. Regarding LMPD, they would not have their name tied to a fraudulent investigation, so after UofL reported their findings they would have spoke up if they were not in agreement.

    My biggest problem with the guy and his situation with UofL and FC, is that he directed fundraising dollars and other things (costumes, etc) to be paid to him in cash, something that doesn’t seem to bother you but is a huge red flag to most people. How can you be so critical of the way UofL handles money 24/7 but not care about this fact?
     
    36 kentuckyshame, Feb 7, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2020
  37. zipp

    zipp Elite Member
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2001
    Messages:
    47,245
    Likes Received:
    10,702
    You're mind reading what Sharp's going to do with U of L. My guess he never admits to anything, and why would he? They haven't demonstrated anything except that they can "investigate" and tell a story, something they've done multiple times with equally suspicious results.

    U of L fired Sharp because they wanted to fire him AND--the important part--they wanted cover. Clowns recognize correctly that they don't have the credibility to simply say "you're fired". (Floyd Central administrators evidently do...) So U of L conducts another one of its now famous "investigations", and PUBLICIZES what is essentially an employee's personnel file. Again, they didn't need that.

    AND if the transgressions were so great, why were charges not pressed over grand larceny? How is the Louisville police being irresponsible for not pressing firearm/stalking charges while U of L loses $40K of our money and says "never mind"? Methinks they don't have a rock solid case.

    Finally, you nor I know (although I'm eventually gonna find out) what Sharp was told was OK in how his finances were managed. The cheer/dance budget is pretty minuscule which I know tracking this stuff. It's entirely plausible, if not likely, that Sharp was following the path he was allowed to take under the old administration. In fact, the info "investigated" might not have even been current. You don't know that Jurich wasn't OK with Sharp doing exactly what he was doing when he was shown the door. In effect, his rules could have been changed without telling him.

    As I said, I'm eventually finding this stuff out if he doesn't announce it to the world himself...
     
  38. beantowncard

    beantowncard Four-Star Poster
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    12,953
    Likes Received:
    5,979
    I’m not qualified to offer psychoanalysis, but I can recognize obsession.
    What personnel files were made public? If they were, I would expect that UofL would have been sued multiple times already by those whose records were improperly made public. Has this happened?
     
  39. beantowncard

    beantowncard Four-Star Poster
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    12,953
    Likes Received:
    5,979
    I certainly hope Jurich was NOT OK with theft. If he was, that’s a black mark on his tenure, if he was not, he should have had tighter control.
     
  40. kentuckyshame

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    701
    Or, because he stole $40,000 from his dance team.

    This is a valid point, i have no idea why UofL decided not to press charges, you may be right that UofL may not have concrete (aka “rock hard”) evidence against Todd Sharp, after all he wanted donations to the team to be made in cash so there would be no money trail, or so he thought. Albeit, the possibility is there that UofL decided not to press charges due to his years of service/success, incidentally not wanting details to get out so it would not destroy him career wise.

    I would be highly surprised Tom Jurich would give the nod to a system that allowed Sharp to direct payments for donations, and competition/costume fees to be made in cash. Either way we’re all going to find out in one of two ways, 1) through a trial, or 2) no trial. If there is a settlement id say the school would be admitting guilt. If there is no trial and no settlement, Sharp’s guilty, because no one would let these accusations fly without a fight.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page