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Interesting Interview with Powell's Attorney

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) — Katina Powell is going to the NCAA, her attorney Larry Wilder told WDRB’s Stephan Johnson on Thursday.

If you wondered what would be the upshot of the news earlier this week that several women were coming forward to sue for defamation, claiming they danced with Powell at University of Louisville parties but never had sex with anyone, this is it.

Powell, according to Wilder, now feels she has nothing to lose, and will speak with the NCAA soon. Whether she has nothing to lose is debatable, but there’s no debating that at the very least, her journals and text messages appear headed to a Jefferson County grand jury, and perhaps into the public domain eventually.

We’d been hearing a lot from people who oppose Powell this week, and from her youngest daughter on Facebook, who published some things not in line with what her mother’s book said.

But Wilder sat down with WDRB’s Johnson for 40 minutes on Thursday, offering a look at recent events from Katina Powell's perspective, and providing answers to questions that were sometimes quite pointed. More on those below.

The most notable news Wilder offered regarded his client's journals and text messages. He said the messages were retrieved from Powell’s phone by an Indianapolis company that does such things, they were verified and categorized onto an index which the company has used since, in compiling the book. That, we had already heard. It’s the material that was showed to ESPN. Wilder insists the journals comprise a legitimate record of Powell’s activities. What we hadn't heard was the sheer volume of material that would be turned over.

“It’s not like she has one journal that’s this date and supposedly is over four years and here’s your journal,” Wilder told Johnson. “It’s a stack of journals and they have mundane and rum-dum entries, like, ‘Something happened today with one of the grandchildren and here’s what I did, this is what we did and we went and got ice cream.' And the reason I say that, the reason I think that’s important is, it is clear that those were contemporaneously created documents based on the facts of what were going on at the time. Her cell phone, 1,400 text messages between her and Andre McGee. Her cell phone, several hundred text messages between her and Terrance Williams. Her cell phone, you can’t create this kind of evidence to create a hoax.”

Wilder had some good lines regarding Williams, who told TMZ that he didn’t need to pay for sex, because he was like Elvis in Louisville. Wilder noted that the text message trail says otherwise.

“Elvis paid,” Wilder said.

But that’s not an altogether important fact in U of L’s ongoing investigation with the NCAA. Williams was no longer a player at the school after 2009, and what he did two years later shouldn’t impact what happened with the program — unless the text messages reveal some other kind of involvement.

Of more pertinence is what Wilder had to say when asked whether he thought U of L coach Rick Pitino knew anything about the alleged actions. He said he didn’t doubt former director of basketball operations Andre McGee told Powell that, “Rick knows everything.” But Wilder said he sees nothing in the evidence Powell has that would link Pitino directly to anything that happened.

“As a lawyer, I can tell you as we sit here right now today, I have no knowledge of any demonstrative evidence, any admissible evidence, any circumstantial evidence, that would cause me as a lawyer to believe that there is any ability to demonstrate that coach Rick Pitino had knowledge of what was gong on,” Wilder said. “I can say that without hesitation, having had benefit of all the information I have."


Wilder said Powell hasn’t taken a polygraph test. He noted that the players who have come forward to corroborate portions of her account are all the polygraph she needs, along with the journals and text messages she has. (Two sources have told WDRB that U of L coach Rick Pitino voluntarily offered to take a polygraph test, and passed. Polygraphs are not admissible as evidence in court. Pitino is declining any comment on the investigation on the advice of counsel.)

Wilder said he thinks a large segment of the Louisville fan base remains in denial, despite some corroboration from media outlets like ESPN and even the women who came forward this week acknowledging at least part of Powell’s story — even as they denied a key part.

“Fans are not accepting some of the things of baseline importance of what happened,” Wilder said. “The fans aren’t ready to grasp and understand that, ‘Now what we thought was nothing had happened, now it’s pretty clear that the least we can see is these things were happening inside the basketball dorm involving our recruits and these players, and what do we do about it?' Instead, it’s still kind of, ‘None of this happened, it’s all a lie, she’s telling lies and the book’s a lie. We’re going to put on our blinders and become myopic about what happened and just go forward and be OK with it.'"


 
"Fans are not accepting some of the things of baseline importance of what happened,”

This is yet another unclear statement. Do we know what things are of "baseline importance?" Unless he clarifies what those things of baseline importance are, we are left to draw our own conclusions.
 
"Fans are not accepting some of the things of baseline importance of what happened,”

This is yet another unclear statement. Do we know what things are of "baseline importance?" Unless he clarifies what those things of baseline importance are, we are left to draw our own conclusions.

I think he means that there were strippers in the dorm, they performed for money and that McGee/Powell were the connection between the two.

I do believe that UofL administrators believe these "baseline" items and that they do expect sanctions to be levied or more likely self-imposed.
 
I don't think there are many fans that still feel nothing happened or there was no relationship between Powell and McGee. All the fans can go by is what is in the book which is full of inaccurate information. It is reasonable for anyone to discredit the book as a whole. It was not well thought out from the start. With that said fans have to forget about the books credibility that really doesn't matter. It will matter in a court of law but not with the NCAA.

What matters is there were parties at the dorm where dancing occurred and some money changed hands. Sex for money who knows for sure, but it looks like that was fabricated to sell books. Money for dancing was provided by a Louisville representative that is the bottom line. I don't think this issue goes any deeper than McGee and Powell. If it did then Mr. Wilder would have said this goes much deeper than McGee. I don't think the NCAA will come away from this thinking the University lack of compliance or oversight lead to this behavior.

I think it is very likely that Louisville will self impose some pretty tough penalties on themselves directly related to recruiting visits. They may even ban official visits for a year or limit the visit to a day then send them home. The NCAA will put a show cause on McGee his coaching days are done.
 
Do you really believe that strippers and young men equate to no sex involved?Nice world but not true.
I didn't say there was no sex I said who knows if there was money for sex. What percentage of any college party don't end up with someone having sex? The money is the issue without it you have a wild college party which occur every single weekend.

What is everyone worked up about in the media? A Louisville representative ( McGee) paid for sex for players/recruits. Powell is saying she never handled the money, it went straight to the girls from McGee. The girls are now denying that sex or money exchanged hands. McGee isn't talking and the other people involved are denying it happened. Powell can't admit to taking the money. It is in the best interest of the other girls to deny. The only evidence is in text messages. Legally the sex claims is a mess for everyone involved but from a Louisville perspective the dancing & dollars are the real issue.

At this point the only thing that is being confirmed by almost everyone is the dancing and money exchanging hands for that specific activity. That is a problem for Louisville and exactly why they won't come out of this clean. They will faces penalties either self imposed or by the NCAA.
 
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I think he means that there were strippers in the dorm, they performed for money and that McGee/Powell were the connection between the two.

I do believe that UofL administrators believe these "baseline" items and that they do expect sanctions to be levied or more likely self-imposed.

You could be right. It could also mean something else. My point is that his statements are not meant to inform us; they were meant to bring more attention to him and to Powell. Trying to get more out of his statements is a futile exercise, but people will still try doing it.
 
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Not starting anything. I appreciate what Pitino did for UK.
I don't think he knew anything. I think McGee was trying to be cool, one of the guys, and yes help land some recruits.
Before the NCAA decides to punish, they always go easier if the school self punishes.At some point, I think UNC self punish and see what happens.
Maybe the leadership is preparing to do that now. Pitino will get that " should have known " penalty.
McGee, if all the texts are as bad as reported and hiring/paying strippers/hookers-- his career is over. Rogue employee,unfortunately given a great opportunity by Rick.
Maybe offer sitting out this tournament and lose scholarships for a couple of years, limits on recruiting. Maybe the NCAA would accept that.
Better than risking banners and vacating games.
 
The NCAA cares if Louisville provided enticing benefits to recruits or players. A benefit is any activity above $30 a day that is not normally provided to normal students on campus. Dancers in bikinis, strippers, paid sex acts, etc would all fall under "improper benefit" pain for by McGee or not. It also will matter if the player was on campus and if it was a official or unofficial visit. For instance, if a recruit goes off campus on his own during an unofficial visit and pays for sex, the university in not responsible. The totality of the detailed facts will determine the severity of punishment. We are along way from finding out those details, and maybe will never know them all.
 
The NCAA cares if Louisville provided enticing benefits to recruits or players. A benefit is any activity above $30 a day that is not normally provided to normal students on campus. Dancers in bikinis, strippers, paid sex acts, etc would all fall under "improper benefit" pain for by McGee or not. It also will matter if the player was on campus and if it was a official or unofficial visit. For instance, if a recruit goes off campus on his own during an unofficial visit and pays for sex, the university in not responsible. The totality of the detailed facts will determine the severity of punishment. We are along way from finding out those details, and maybe will never know them all.
Thats what alot of our fanbase doesn't understand. Plus It sucks for U of L anyway it goes we have gotten nothing but bad pub and will always be linked to this crap rather it works in our favor or not.
 
Not starting anything. I appreciate what Pitino did for UK.
I don't think he knew anything. I think McGee was trying to be cool, one of the guys, and yes help land some recruits.
Before the NCAA decides to punish, they always go easier if the school self punishes.At some point, I think UNC self punish and see what happens.
Maybe the leadership is preparing to do that now. Pitino will get that " should have known " penalty.
McGee, if all the texts are as bad as reported and hiring/paying strippers/hookers-- his career is over. Rogue employee,unfortunately given a great opportunity by Rick.
Maybe offer sitting out this tournament and lose scholarships for a couple of years, limits on recruiting. Maybe the NCAA would accept that.
Better than risking banners and vacating games.




Keep tryin mattie bangs.
 
I wish I was as sensible as some of our fans. God love them. Besides firing RP and TJ, I say give us the death penalty x 2. Then everything will be FAIR again in basketball. LOL. Might as well give the championship every year to Nike. They're the real ones that deserve it.
 
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LOL..UK plays a basketball game tonight and a football game tomorrow and Fat Matt takes most of his joke of a show to talk UL.
Of course he does. He along with many who "bleed blue" are simply consumed with everything UofL related. All you have to do to believe that is look at the mass amount of smurf color trolls posting on this site. It's actually a very unhealthy obsession. A mental disease IMO.
 
I didn't say there was no sex I said who knows if there was money for sex. What percentage of any college party don't end up with someone having sex? The money is the issue without it you have a wild college party which occur every single weekend.

What is everyone worked up about in the media? A Louisville representative ( McGee) paid for sex for players/recruits. Powell is saying she never handled the money, it went straight to the girls from McGee. The girls are now denying that sex or money exchanged hands. McGee isn't talking and the other people involved are denying it happened. Powell can't admit to taking the money. It is in the best interest of the other girls to deny. The only evidence is in text messages. Legally the sex claims is a mess for everyone involved but from a Louisville perspective the dancing & dollars are the real issue.

At this point the only thing that is being confirmed by almost everyone is the standing and money exchanging hands for that specific activity. That is a problem for Louisville and exactly whey they won't come out of this clean. They will faces penalties either self imposed or by the NCAA.
The attorney said that the other hos were not paid by the head ho. So if she was paid by McGee she stiffed them out of their money. Stated that the strippers acknowledged they received money in the form of dollars raining down from those at the party. Also, said most of the text between McGee and Powell and T-will and Powell were very descriptive and vulgar. One day they will be leaked out and/or become public knowledge. Should be interesting reading.

It all comes down to how much of the bs the NCAA believes after they look over all that she is providing and what she tells them.
 
I caught just a short portion of it when I was flipping thru the channels Friday. One thing I thought was odd Wilder mention he was in route to Indy to pick up the evidence. He also mentioned from the evidence he has seen that was provided by the whore lead him to believe her story. What I found odd about it was she provided something for him to see, but he was actually on his way to pick up the so-called journals and phone etc. So she retains him and he goes to Indy to see this evidence that IBJ is holding while taking her case. I find that to be somewhat far fetch, but very odd IMO.
 
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