How does (or will the) B12 survive without Mad Cow & Boomer.
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or I gotten to where I don’t care.
Greed has been the downfall of many.
It may be the downfall of intercollegiate athletics.
The powers that be tweeked and “changed” NASCAR to make it “better” until very few care about it anymore. Thousands of empty seats disguised as fans proves that.
Greed has been the downfall of many.
It may be the downfall of intercollegiate athletics.
The powers that be tweeked and “changed” NASCAR to make it “better” until very few care about it anymore. Thousands of empty seats disguised as fans proves that.
It all depends on how the college playoff is structured. If it expands to 12 as floated earlier this summer, then the Big XII left overs will have a shot to make the playoff ... and therefore compete for a national title.
This won't hurt recruiting. And not having to go through Oklahoma, it actually increases the chances of getting there.
This won't hurt recruiting. And not having to go through Oklahoma, it actually increases the chances of getting there.
I wonder if the Big 12 might lure Nebraska back to the conference? The Big 10 has not been kind to them. I think Nebraska lost their identity when they left the Big 12. I think ND might fall into the same trap as Nebraska and to an extent Penn State if they gave up their independence. I wonder if that's the reason the powers that be haven't pressured ND into joining a conference.
Nebraska ain't happy with the Big Ten, and vice versa, but Nebraska would probably miss the $30-40 million dollar difference in conference pay outs each year should they want to move back to the Big XII. And that difference will grow once Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big XII ... it'd probably be closer to a $50 or 60 million gap when that move would occur.
I don't see that happening at all. While there are solid reasons for it to happen, the financial reason against it is just too strong.
It reminds me of the reason divorce's are so expensive.
They're worth it.
Never say never. If they feel they are in a "bad marriage", that eats at you. One day you wake up and the money just isn't that important.
Money creates more enemies than friends.
This really does not change college football. The elite teams will stay the same. Oklahoma and Texas get a boost in recruiting. The other SEC get worse but get more money.
The intent of the playoff is to give others a better shot at competing for a title. The gap in college football is significant. No challenged LSU, Clemson, or Alabama in their conferences. If a SEC team like Alabama runs over the rest of the SEC why should SEC have more chances in a playoff?
The playoff should limit access, 2 teams, per conference. If they don’t limit conferences the SEC will get a team in the playoff with 3 losses.
The intent of the playoff is to give others a better shot at competing for a title. The gap in college football is significant. No challenged LSU, Clemson, or Alabama in their conferences. If a SEC team like Alabama runs over the rest of the SEC why should SEC have more chances in a playoff?
The playoff should limit access, 2 teams, per conference. If they don’t limit conferences the SEC will get a team in the playoff with 3 losses.
I agree Cycle, if they are going to expand the playoffs they should have at least 1 or 2 spots reserved for each P5 conference. With probability of the Big12 going under that would still give the SEC the possibility of having 4 teams in the playoffs.
Regarding Nebraska and their decline in football, that seems to happen when schools leave the region they are from and start to compete in a totally different region. I don’t see that happening to Norte Dame if they join the ACC as a full member. ND is more of a national team instead of a regional team. They are also competing in the ACC in all other sorts and it hasn’t hurt them in any sport.
Regarding Nebraska and their decline in football, that seems to happen when schools leave the region they are from and start to compete in a totally different region. I don’t see that happening to Norte Dame if they join the ACC as a full member. ND is more of a national team instead of a regional team. They are also competing in the ACC in all other sorts and it hasn’t hurt them in any sport.
I would argue the Big East would be in great shape if Syracuse and Pitt stayed put. Realignment only gave teams
more money but it had a dramatic effect on the teams overall competitiveness. None of the Big East teams are really competitive in their new conferences in football or basketball. Louisville in basketball has had other issues.
The better players want to have a legit chance at competing for conference titles and national titles. When teams jump to conferences for money alone it ended up hurting their recruiting. It is hard to argue Louisville had better talent in the Big East than they do now in the ACC.
more money but it had a dramatic effect on the teams overall competitiveness. None of the Big East teams are really competitive in their new conferences in football or basketball. Louisville in basketball has had other issues.
The better players want to have a legit chance at competing for conference titles and national titles. When teams jump to conferences for money alone it ended up hurting their recruiting. It is hard to argue Louisville had better talent in the Big East than they do now in the ACC.
Covid had sucked the bottom line of many and the money man is seeking ways to make up those bottom lines. The money man doesn’t care about friends.
It hurt ND when the joined the ACC as a part time member. They had to make room on their schedule for five ACC teams each season. ND had to end annual series against Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue. ND cancelled the 4 remaining games against the University of Texas. Now people are asking ND to end the most important thing that identifies who ND is for the last 134 years-their independence. It literally defines who and what ND foundation was built on. It's a high price to pay. ND will probably pay that price one day. It will be a sad day for college football.
I disagree Ara:
ND‘s ending Michigan, MSU and Purdue have little effect on their popularity or their revenue. OSU, Wisconsin and PSU have made it clear that those aforementioned BIG historical ND opponents are no longer relevant. Those schools “south of the Mason Dixon line” have established the power of college football, and the National TV ratings prove that to be the case. ND‘s future football success will be measured by how it can compete against Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and this new expanded SEC. South Bend’s stadium will be filled regardless of who they schedule, but a national TV audience will be far more interested in seeing ND playing Clemson or even Miami or FSU than Michigan right now.
ND‘s ending Michigan, MSU and Purdue have little effect on their popularity or their revenue. OSU, Wisconsin and PSU have made it clear that those aforementioned BIG historical ND opponents are no longer relevant. Those schools “south of the Mason Dixon line” have established the power of college football, and the National TV ratings prove that to be the case. ND‘s future football success will be measured by how it can compete against Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and this new expanded SEC. South Bend’s stadium will be filled regardless of who they schedule, but a national TV audience will be far more interested in seeing ND playing Clemson or even Miami or FSU than Michigan right now.
That what I mean
When things get back to good, Nebraska/Tx/Ok may wake up and say “We don’t care how much we’re making, it ain’t enough to to have to deal with these jack legs any longer”
They may decide they can do just fine on 40 million instead of 55 million.
When you just can’t stand to be with someone any longer, it’s worth it.
