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**** LOUISVILLE POSTER THREAD ONLY; VISITOR PARTICIPATION NOT WELCOME, WILL BE DELETED

Ok, so apparently posters other than Ipartied have opinions on this topic. He has been the lone poster to contact me and express concerns about the policing of visiting posters, and virtually the lone poster to utilize the Report button to report content. For that, I applaud his participation in the process. Here is the opportunity to express concerns and offer suggestions to better the posting experience for Card fans on our board. Please keep your comments thoughtful and civil, with not only an eye towards expressing opinions, but also offering realistic suggestions.

*** I would VERY much appreciate if other UOFL board mods could also participate in the discussion.
 
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What is the line here with opposing- okay we all know its mostly Uk- fans? I mean does it have to be super blatant over the top cursing/insults about UofL, Pitino, the players, fans, etc for there to be action taken? Also when action is taken how is it decided when or how long bans happen?

I'm just asking to get an idea here. I think you do a good overall Mod job and I know its a thankless job as well. There is trash that you take out that most people have no idea of and more.

I just don't like how it seems they can say very insulting things about the program but as long as they don't do it in a too over the top/trollish way it seems to be okay.

I know you can't control other posters from coming over here but the flood of Uk posters that invade like roaches so often makes this board hard to read at times. And they can be quite annoying.
 
As I commented today in another thread, I'm good with the current policing of the message boards. I don't like LPT fans here, but it's the rest of our jobs to make them unwelcome. Relying on mods to do that shows weakness on our part.

And I guess it should be pointed out that this comes from the guy perceived as the biggest LPT hater on the message board. Thank you for that label. :D

"Elite program", my a$$...
 
What is the line here with opposing- okay we all know its mostly Uk- fans? I mean does it have to be super blatant over the top cursing/insults about UofL, Pitino, the players, fans, etc for there to be action taken? Also when action is taken how is it decided when or how long bans happen?

I'm just asking to get an idea here. I think you do a good overall Mod job and I know its a thankless job as well. There is trash that you take out that most people have no idea of and more.

I just don't like how it seems they can say very insulting things about the program but as long as they don't do it in a too over the top/trollish way it seems to be okay.

I know you can't control other posters from coming over here but the flood of Uk posters that invade like roaches so often makes this board hard to read at times. And they can be quite annoying.

I'm going to hold off from participating in the discussion for now, because I want it to be a discussion of improving the board experience in general, not about one moderator specifically. That's why I hope other mods will also participate in the thread. However, I will say I basically follow one guiding thought process...visitors are welcome as long as they don't disrespect our program, posters, or the board.
 
Overall I believe the Mods on this site are fair and balanced to a fault. I've seen things that are posted by non UofL fans that are obvious bait flame material that has no other intent yet is allowed to stay posted until things spiral out of control.

I also think posters pretending to be UofL fans need to be banned as soon as it's confirmed they're really posers. That's easier said than done. I get that. I couldn't be a mod on this site because I jump to conclusions too quick.

If I see something that is obviously out of line and vulgar, I'll report it and I don't care if people like that or not. Anyone who attacks our players or coaches with insults, I'll report. Name calling between posters I'll leave to the discretion of the mods.
 
...I also think posters pretending to be UofL fans need to be banned as soon as it's confirmed they're really posers. That's easier said than done. I get that...
My experience is that those types of posters are soon identified for who/what they are by U of L posters. Seen it many times. And once out-ed, they typically scurry off because that's contrary to what they want. Bottom line, I don't think that type of ban is necessary. JMO...
 
I've come to realize this is not a place of free speech and opinions when posters like zipp can bait and then try to intimidate other posters simply if they don't share his opinions and I can damn tell you without substituting a few letters that I am a cardinal fan. I can take what he babbles but when I try to retaliate to his constant insults directed on whoever, it is my posts that get deleted, not his. Why because somebody wants him to keep throwing hate out there.
 
I've come to realize this is not a place of free speech and opinions when posters like zipp can bait and then try to intimidate other posters simply if they don't share his opinions... I can take what he babbles but when I try to retaliate to his constant insults directed on whoever, it is my posts that get deleted, not his. Why because somebody wants him to keep throwing hate out there.
Paranoia seldom looks good on someone unless you accessorize properly. :)

I assure you I have no "ins" with the moderators--in fact, I'm confident I've pi$$ed several of them off. My guess is that like some people on the losing end of a debate, you'd rather question the process or try to handicap the other guy. Poor form on your part, and you may want to get better at what you're trying to do...
 
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I'm going to hold off from participating in the discussion for now, because I want it to be a discussion of improving the board experience in general, not about one moderator specifically. That's why I hope other mods will also participate in the thread. However, I will say I basically follow one guiding thought process...visitors are welcome as long as they don't disrespect our program, posters, or the board.
Your last sentence is the part I have a problem with. I dont mind visitors at all...if they are respectful and dont disrespect our program. Sometimes I have to wonder if you Mods are reading the same thing I am!! I pay money to be on this site. I enjoy the diversion from everyday life. I DON'T want to come here and get the opinion of uk fans. If I wanted that I would frequent their board. The fact that they mainly show up here after something bad happens to the Cards tells you all you need to know about their intentions when posting here. You wouldn't think it would be that hard to figure out!!! This is a board for Card fans...who cares what uk fans think.
 
I actually enjoy the way this board is moderated. Take it easy, Steelers. I think the status quo is excellent. Most UK fans who are absurd get taken to task nicely. They make incredibly lush targets, lol.
 
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Banning visitors because they are UK fans with a differing opinion is not an action I support. As Zipp eluded to, engage & debate them. Make the idiots ban themselves, most eventually will. I welcome debate with respectable rival fans, and enjoy the privilege to do so there as well. If they clearly violate board rules, then do what is expected of you, and terminate their privilege.

But this isn't a "pay" board, visitors should be welcome to post here as long as they follow posting rules. If you don't want to see them, stay on the premium boards, where you will rarely ever encounter any of them.
 
Debate is one thing I enjoy a great deal and I don't want UofK fans banned just for being UofK fans. I want the sniveling coward UofK fans who aren't proud or courageous enough to call themselves UofK fans to be outed for being no life losers in the first place. I got no use for any UofK fan who can't stand true and be honest about their intent for being here from moment one.
 
Banning visitors because they are UK fans with a differing opinion is not an action I support. As Zipp eluded to, engage & debate them. Make the idiots ban themselves, most eventually will. I welcome debate with respectable rival fans, and enjoy the privilege to do so there as well. If they clearly violate board rules, then do what is expected of you, and terminate their privilege.

But this isn't a "pay" board, visitors should be welcome to post here as long as they follow posting rules. If you don't want to see them, stay on the premium boards, where you will rarely ever encounter any of them.
I dont need you to tell me what to do. I already stated that I dont mind them here IF they follow the rules. A poster can denigrate another program without "breaking board rules" and that is where the issue is. Several of these guys insert themselves into virtually every thread with their uk opinio .
 
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Debate is one thing I enjoy a great deal and I don't want UofK fans banned just for being UofK fans. I want the sniveling coward UofK fans who aren't proud or courageous enough to call themselves UofK fans to be outed for being no life losers in the first place. I got no use for any UofK fan who can't stand true and be honest about their intent for being here from moment one.
Agree.
 
Shadow force said this...

"I just don't like how it seems they can say very insultingthings about the program but as long as they don't do it in a too over the top/trollish way it seems to be okay."

This is what I have a problem with as well.
 
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I am happy with the moderating of this board. I have been allowed to call out questionable content posted by UK fans, and, while my posts were allowed to stand, some of theirs were deleted. I assume it was because it contained a personal attack or went over the top without addressing the content.

Another time, when I asked for a UL fan reply only on one post about a controversial issue, the mods helped me by deleting UK fan posts. They, of course, posted the type of garbage I would expect from them, and did not address the issue directly.

If I were to post something out of line, I would hope that I would be informed if it were deleted. I don't know if it takes place, or if doing so is such a pain in the a$$ for the mods that they do not do (and I would understand if that were the case).
 
Hey Steelers. Do you know what has become of C1180. You invited him over here a couple of years ago, and he spent a couple of weeks trying to get banned. He started that giant UK/UL thread on the Lair, this year, but disappeared ( much like the Cats) half way through the season. I thought he made a bet with you. What has become of him. He seems to have disappeared altogether.
 
Hey Steelers. Do you know what has become of C1180. You invited him over here a couple of years ago, and he spent a couple of weeks trying to get banned. He started that giant UK/UL thread on the Lair, this year, but disappeared ( much like the Cats) half way through the season. I thought he made a bet with you. What has become of him. He seems to have disappeared altogether.

Yeah...my bad...sorry about that. LoL! As far as I know he still posts under the same username on the UK boards. I do remember that thread.
 
Its call rivals and SuCkS is the Cards biggest rival.
Its just sports, so i dont take them all that serious.

However, there's no toleration for insults of Coaches, players or administration.
Thats where i draw the line.

Saying UofL is weak is one thing or calling scoreboard. Its another thing to personally insult
posters or The athletic department.

I dont expect compliments or cheers by rivals. Just talk SPORTS smack and move on.
 
Nobody wants to read the low brow visitor fan POV about all things Louisville. Not every visitor is guilty but the ones that are should be shown the door.

Let's not confuse legit discussion with troll/bait either.

It doesn't take much smarts to distinguish the difference between respect and disrespect.
 
My one concern is when a visitor is respectful and just wants to talk sports that certain posters go out of their way to flame and bait the individual to react in defense mode. And even then, when that visitor responds with respect, those posters still stay in attack mode just because they happen to be a uk fan.

Is it any wonder that few of the good behavior posters ever want to come back and have to face that? The posters who do that know who they are and we do to. One or two bad apples spoil things for all of us.

I expect that kind of treatment at CI/CP.....I was expecting//hoping this site to stay above that kind of behavior.

Thank you Steelers for starting his topic to start the new year. I doubt it will change any ones behavior because they can't help being who and what they are.
 
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My one concern is when a visitor is respectful and just wants to talk sports that certain posters go out of their way to flame and bait the individual to react in defense mode. And even then, when that visitor responds with respect, those posters still stay in attack mode just because they happen to be a uk fan...
Mayo, you raise a good point, and it may occasionally apply to me. I'm not by default in attack mode with all LPT fans although I'm sure it appears that way to some. I simply tolerate no elite mentality, condescension, and entitlement from anyone in that fanbase. And even when a slappy doesn't show that explicitly, I'll look for it between the lines and take no prisoners.

Sorry if some U of L fans are more understanding, and if my intolerance interferes with your discussions. As long as they come here understanding that they're in a position of inferiority and that most of us don't give a damn what their opinions are, they'll probably steer clear of guys like me. Otherwise, I'll be all over 'em...
 
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I mainly don't want opposing fans making fun of our coach or the players, and I don't want them derailing threads. Which is pretty much the same thing we expect from our own posters. Constructive criticism is fine, but bringing up personal things or name calling I don't want to see. I also don't want to see little negative "snipe" comments from opposing fans. Those should be deleted quickly. Negative posts from our own fans are more than enough.

I don't think we only need opposing fans who pump sunshine but if they post they should stay on topic.
 
UK fans should not be allowed to post on any Louisville forum. They cannot participate in a normal discussion without making demeaning racist comments toward Louisville, the university and city. They can't help it; it's what they do. I tire of their "thug", "urban" and "tard" comments.

The reality, free or pay, this is a Louisville forum. I pay for the privilege to post on a premium board. I like to also participate in free board discussions with Louisville fans that are not premium members. I feel like that's a privilege I should have as a premium member. It is very difficult, sometimes nearly impossible, to have discussions with Louisville fans on the free boards because of UK fans.

It is especially bad the week we play them in any sport or whenever there is a new development in the supposed scandal. They create fly by accounts and proceed to make the free boards unusable by Louisville fans.

Personally I wouldn't approve any new free accounts during Kentucky week. That would go a long way toward cleaning up the mess. I would also require the first 10 posts of these accounts to be approved by a moderator before they go onto the board. That's what some other ACC boards do with rivals.

Bottom line is as long as you have a supposed media nimrod like Matt Jones stirring up the weakminded uk fans at every opportunity we are going to have a difficult time talking anything Louisville here.

Jim
 
My humble opinion is that it should be at the discretion of posters that are fans of this school. It has become difficult to read many threads because of the presence of sUcKs fans. Maybe in the thread title we can include if we welcome other fan bases into the thread of wish to exclude some fan bases. Anyone linking articles by the turncoat media should be suspended or banned. Those are just put out there to rile people up and have no base in e truth and anyone with sense knows that.
 
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First, let me say thank you to Steelers for taking on the thankless roll of moderator, and making an attempt at cleaning things up.

For what bothers me, there are some posts in the Louisville vs. Lex media thread by a UK fan that are a good example. jdhays came into the thread and immediately brought up the "scandal" and Pintino's record vs. Cal, along with comments about Pitino. Although that initial post was deleted, one quoted reply stayed, as well as jdhays additional reply. These disrespectful posts by UK fans seem to be everywhere on our board. It seems like time and effort is spent "cleaning" the posts up, and cleaning up Card fan replies, but the jist of the posts stay in place. I don't get the effort put into allowing these posts (and the posters themselves) to stick around. It makes these boards hard to read and enjoy since we are constantly getting UK fan opinions that most of us don't want to read (based on our posted responses). For the most part these are not respectful back and forth conversations that are taking place.
 
I am a longtime member and stopped posting for a very long time and only recently began posting again.
I also have a hair trigger regarding the idiotic and redundant comments from the blue contingent. I support wholeheartedly the idea to not allow free accounts to anyone during Kentucky week in any sport. The bluenecks will get on whatever board they can to spread their bile,venom and ridiculous comments.
I also have no problem with moderators having a short fuse when fellow Cardinal fans get into a disagreement that denigrates into a two person pissing match. It is painful when two folks have a back and forth argument on a busy thread.
I appreciate the hard work the moderators do
 
I don't want them derailing threads.
I don't think we only need opposing fans who pump sunshine but if they post they should stay on topic.

I think you nailed it right there. The most frustrating part of trying to participate in a discussion, IMHO, is when somebody posts garbage. Many posters here, myself included, have an attitude of "we will take no crap from fans of UK, Memphis, or anyone else who condescendingly approaches us"
 
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Yeah...my bad...sorry about that. LoL! As far as I know he still posts under the same username on the UK boards. I do remember that thread.
That was among the most unforgettable threads I ever saw. The absolute ironic hilarity of how smug that dweeb was over UK superiority - and the result of the game, of course - must have caused a fatal visit to a suicide toilet.
 
Two more of my cents: UK fans have so little interest in our players and team when they show up. They do not understand how predictable they are - it is really that simple. It is eventually exasperating to see newbie UK posters running in all breathless and then spouting off a line of propaganda we could all have simply typed for them as the standard diarrhea we see at the floors of their brain pans. I know it causes me to rip a strip quite prematurely sometimes, off this new unsuspecting arsehole who actually believes his missionary fervor in "explaining UK" means diddly squat to us "non believers". But they never get that, lol.

Novelty would be a fascinating approach for a fan base who seem unequipped to deal it. It just makes it all the same old crap in a different suit. That's ennervating.
 
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Zipp and nccardfan....please don't turn this thread into a personal battle. Any further back and forth between the two of you will be deleted. Thanks.

I almost clicked the "report" button on nccardfan's first post above. Not sure what made him feel like he could unload on zipp in this particular thread. That kind of personal attack from out of the blue seems particularly unwarranted.

But here's the reason I didn't click "report" then, and I never have: I don't know what the rules are. Are they posted somewhere? I'll never complain unless I know the rules.
 
As long as visiting posters are not getting personal or overly poisonous, I say let them be. I guess the same can be said in regards to the "regulars".
 
I almost clicked the "report" button on nccardfan's first post above. Not sure what made him feel like he could unload on zipp in this particular thread. That kind of personal attack from out of the blue seems particularly unwarranted.

But here's the reason I didn't click "report" then, and I never have: I don't know what the rules are. Are they posted somewhere? I'll never complain unless I know the rules.

These are the Rivals Forum Rules as have been provided to me:

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No attacking other posters. If you feel the need to harass another poster, don't do it. What is considered attacking other posters?
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In short, making a poster a target.
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The golden rule is a good one to follow: Do unto others as you would have done unto you.

To the vast majority of fans who read this site and already function within this rule set, thank you very much for your adult candor and responsible posting.
 
Let me add my .02 as to why I detest the fact that they are allowed on this board at all. I peruse a guitar forum daily, which has members from all over the world, talking of all things.......GUITARS almost exclusively. Go figure.
I've only seen sports of any kind mentioned on that forum sparingly, as in once or twice a year, with one exception. There are two UK numbnuts that have been on there bashing Louisville at every opportunity.
My point is, these guys go to great lengths to deride UofL at every opportunity. They have no morals and know no boundaries. It wouldn't bother me if we banned them altogether. I have no interest in their opinion or their rhetoric. Let them habla their bull crap among themselves. I've never been to their message board because nothing they say interests me. I realize that they make for good entertainment for some posters here, but F them as far as I'm concerned. You can bet that if they're on this board they are trying to stir something up and have only evil intentions, simply because they know no other way.
 
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Do what you got to do. I hardly post on this board, usually preseason. A lot of recent stuff had soured me. I hate it. Under the impression a house cleaning needs to occur, but that's a different thread...

A lot of UK fans troll this site. It's smaller than the other site. But there are strong personalities here. Whether you agree with Zipp, KerryRhodes, Cue, they are good for board because they offer strong opinions and love. That being said, I'm a fan of diversity. I don't mind UK fans coming here to talk basketball. I took my UK friend to E Michigan game. He likes basketball. Same goes. Problem is so much trash.

Things seem fine, mods are being receptive and reactive. I think a short leash is appropriate.
 
I don't mind the Uk fans that come over here to respectfully talk about basketball either. Its the ones that claim to want to talk basketball then proceed to flame, troll, and do everything else EXCEPT talk about basketball.
 
I don't mind if you all kick the UK posters off this message board, just please don't kick me off.

I have a ND rivals account, but like to come over here to talk UL basketball, because I live in Louisville, and I've been a die hard Cards bball fan my entire sports watching life.

In fact I have season tix to both UL football and basketball.

and the only time i've ever gotten pissed at Zipp is when he tried to claim that UL was a football school, and when i effectively articulated why he was wrong to claim UL officially a football school, he got a little snarky with me.
 
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I don't mind if you all kick the UK posters off this message board, just please don't kick me off.

I have a ND rivals account, but like to come over here to talk UL basketball, because I live in Louisville, and I've been a die hard Cards bball fan my entire sports watching life.

In fact I have season tix to both UL football and basketball.

and the only time i've ever gotten pissed at Zipp is when he tried to claim that UL was a football school, and when i effectively articulated why he was wrong to claim UL officially a football school, he got a little snarky with me.
This is a prime example right here. Ban this guy and delete this post. Opposing fan trying to derail a thread by talking football on the basketball board.

I'm kidding. :)
 
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