Cards #30

[shadow force]

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - For the first time in over three years, the Louisville men's basketball program is at least getting mentioned in the Associated Press Top 25 Poll.

The Cardinals (12-5, 5-1 ACC) garnered 17 points in week 11 of the AP Top 25 to jump into the "others receiving votes" section, earning a de facto ranking of No. 30. It's Louisville's first time receiving votes in the AP Poll since getting two points in the 2021-22 Week Four poll.

 

[TheRealVille]

It's ridiculous. People like Jay Bilas says it's absurd Louisville isn't ranked. What do they have to do? Why are there reservations?

I agree the AP and coaches polls mean little but they are like grades each week during a long season. Having that number next to your name means you're a good team. The higher the number the better team you are.

As for the NET or any other computer ranking, why is Louisville in the 30's? Why aren't they in the 20's with the strength of schedule and no bad losses? They also have at least 4 quad 1 & 2 wins.

What do these voters want? Do they not look ahead and see Louisville's remaining schedule and notice it's nowhere near as difficult as it was through the first six ACC games?

Shouldn't they expect Louisville to win more games? It's not like some team getting ranked after starting 10 and 1 with 7 cupcake wins, only to have a rugged remaining schedule against multiple ranked teams.

There shouldn't be any doubt that Louisville is a top 25 team and why they're hesitant to vote for the Cards leads to accusations of bias.

 

[shadow force]

They'll just have to keep winning games then they can't be denied anymore. That's the only way it seems right now. It's nice to at least be getting some votes now for the first time in years.

 

[TheRealVille]

Yes it's nice, but we need to move on from comparing the past two seasons to what this team is. For me it was in the Battle for Atlantis that I knew this was a whole new deal for Louisville basketball.

But at the same time, Louisville is still a elite level program and it should be treated like one by the so called basketball experts. As I've said over and over, what exactly is it keeping the Cards out of these voters top 25? The five losses?

This six game winning streak is current and it shows multiple Quad 1 and 2 wins, most by double digits. How long does it take for the voters to notice? Apparently they only now do but they're not convinced so they omit Louisville from the top 25.

That's BS no matter how you slice it.

 

[2330859]

I would be a liar if I said it does not matter to me. This response from outside media, and some opposing coaches reminds me of what UNLV experienced so many decades ago after “Tark the Shark” encountered the wrath of the NCAA. There remains a lot of disrespect over the inaccurate innuendo included in the FBI Report that made UL appear to be a chronic violator of NCAA rules.

 

[nccardfan]

Simple. There are only 4 teams in the top 25 that have 4 losses, UCONN (defending champions), Gonzaga (geez, look at their schedule), Illinois (ranked earlier in top 10) and Baylor. We have 5 losses.

They have noticed but its a long way from being ranked in the 300's to get back into the top 25... Think about that.

 

[TheRealVille]

Simple. There are only 4 teams in the top 25 that have 4 losses, UCONN (defending champions), Gonzaga (geez, look at their schedule), Illinois (ranked earlier in top 10) and Baylor. We have 5 losses.

They have noticed but its a long way from being ranked in the 300's to get back into the top 25... Think about that.

No, no no. Each week the voters pick their top 25. There's no criteria that states a team has to work its way up to get ranked over time. They're supposed to evaluate the teams and their performance. What a teams former position on earlier polls should have NO bearing on the current week's poll.

An example would be what if the Cards beat Duke on the road instead of Pitt. Now I know that Duke would be a more impressive win, but Louisville would still have 5 losses, so to your theory, Louisville still shouldn't be ranked.

That makes no sense and some pretty big media pundits agree like Jay Bilas. A voter is supposed to consider only the current team's performance, not the year before, especially a team like Louisville that had ZERO players or coaches back from a year ago.

Take a look at the teams ranked 20 to 25 and ask yourself why those teams are ranked ahead of Louisville? The only sense it makes is the ongoing bias by voters against Louisville.

Wisconsin lost three in a roll to quad 1 and 2 teams and after winning 5 in a roll against lesser teams, are ranked.

Michigan has lost to Wake Forest and Arkansas, yet they're ranked.

Utah State? Yeah right.

Baylor is 1 and 4 against ranked teams and the rest of their wins have been mostly against non tournament teams. They're ranked #25. Why?

 

[TopCatCal]

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - For the first time in over three years, the Louisville men's basketball program is at least getting mentioned in the Associated Press Top 25 Poll.

The Cardinals (12-5, 5-1 ACC) garnered 17 points in week 11 of the AP Top 25 to jump into the "others receiving votes" section, earning a de facto ranking of No. 30. It's Louisville's first time receiving votes in the AP Poll since getting two points in the 2021-22 Week Four poll.

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The way you guys have looked over the last month, you look like a Top-25 team. College basketball is better when Louisville is good.

 

[TheRealVille]

The coaches poll is even more biased against Louisville. The Cards received just 3 votes. Yet both Clemson and West Virginia are teams that Louisville has beaten. WVU is ranked 25. Clemson has more votes.

UCLA has 6 losses and has 12 votes. Maryland has 4 losses and has 8 votes. Texas Tech has 4 losses and has 6 votes.

New Mexico and St. Mary's have more votes than Louisville.

What exactly is the reasoning for Louisville to have just three votes after what they have accomplished? It's simple bias and it's blatant.

 

[TheRealVille]

The way you guys have looked over the last month, you look like a Top-25 team. College basketball is better when Louisville is good.

Exactly! I just don't get Cards fans arguing against Louisville being ranked. It makes no sense, except only to be a contrarian to certain posters.

Louisville is second behind Duke in the ACC and gave the Blue Devils the best game of any other ACC team.

Louisville has won three conference road games, and beat both Clemson and UNC by double digits.

Louisville has zero bad losses with Oklahoma being the worst loss and that was the game Pryor was injured.

Louisville has played better since losing Pryor and Johnson which is unheard of.

Pat Kelsey is being talked about as coach of the year.

But despite all of this, the team doesn't deserve to be ranked in the top 25? And in the coaches poll they have only three votes.

If the Cards win both games this week, that would be 8 wins in a roll and a 16 and 5 record. They will still probably not be ranked in either poll as it looks now.

It's laughable anyone denying the obvious bias.

 

[cardinalrod]

I don’t think the voters pay much attention to who you’ve played and beat once you get out of the top 10. They’re looking at the wins vs losses at that point.

 

[nccardfan]

No, no no. Each week the voters pick their top 25. There's no criteria that states a team has to work its way up to get ranked over time. They're supposed to evaluate the teams and their performance. What a teams former position on earlier polls should have NO bearing on the current week's poll.

An example would be what if the Cards beat Duke on the road instead of Pitt. Now I know that Duke would be a more impressive win, but Louisville would still have 5 losses, so to your theory, Louisville still shouldn't be ranked.

That makes no sense and some pretty big media pundits agree like Jay Bilas. A voter is supposed to consider only the current team's performance, not the year before, especially a team like Louisville that had ZERO players or coaches back from a year ago.

Take a look at the teams ranked 20 to 25 and ask yourself why those teams are ranked ahead of Louisville? The only sense it makes is the ongoing bias by voters against Louisville.

Wisconsin lost three in a roll to quad 1 and 2 teams and after winning 5 in a roll against lesser teams, are ranked.

Michigan has lost to Wake Forest and Arkansas, yet they're ranked.

Utah State? Yeah right.

Baylor is 1 and 4 against ranked teams and the rest of their wins have been mostly against non tournament teams. They're ranked #25. Why?

You can't use your example because we didn't beat Duke (who is #4) but we did beat Pitt. I would agree that if we beat Duke, UK but still had 5 losses, yes we would be ranked higher than #30, but we didn't so here we are. So the answer is just keep winning and it will take care of itself.

 

[glassmanJ]

none of this matters, rankings don't matter. if you want to win, simply win. if you want to be in the tourney simply win. if you want to make it into the late rounds simply win. rankingsschmankings. As Al Davis always said, Just win Baby! as long as we are one of the 64 teams in the main field, nothing else matters but just win. btw, history has shown that ranking for any cards team generally goes to their head sand losses soon result. stay humble and don;t give a sh&t about what others think. reality is we are an 8.5 point favorite on the road in the acc. i think that says enough about what others think so screw the rankings