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earsky

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A thing of beauty watching Purdue move the ball.Hope coach is dvring this one to show our guys.

Inside-out,wing to middle,etc.

Win or not,not hard to see why they're so good at shooting it.They're all shots off of passes.
 
It really is a thing of beauty. So fun to watch.

Basketball is a simple game. I just hope Purdue can keep it up.

On a side note, Haas = Ivan Drago/Dolph Lundgren
 
Probably not,but the passing...

Point being,I grew tired of watching our post players and wings forget that it's better to give than to receive.;)
 
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Probably not,but the passing...

Point being,I grew tired of watching our post players and wings forget that it's better to give than to receive.;)

Which UofL teams of recent years have had good ball movement in your opinion? I know this team lacked consistent and intelligent ball movement. They would apply it at times and then completely abandon it later on. Frustrating to watch among other things this season.
 
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In most of the games I watched last night, the team passing seems to be more fluid whether it's around the perimeter or inside/out. I am tired of watching our dribble handouts beyond the 3 point line. I have always heard that you can move the ball around faster by passing than by dribbling.
 
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Passing is the most underated-skill in Basketball. I loved to watch Magic Johnson play.
He made everyone on the court with him a better player.

We had no one on our team that I would consider a good passer(possible exception is Levitch). Couple that with this team did not have very good ball handling skills in general and that's why our offense primarily revolved around offensive rebounding..
 
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Passing is the most underated-skill in Basketball. I loved to watch Magic Johnson play.
He made everyone on the court with him a better player.

We had no one on our team that I would consider a good passer(possible exception is Levitch). Couple that with this team did not have very good ball handling skills in general and that's why our offense primarily revolved around offensive rebounding..
Spot on. It particularly hurts my heart watch kids now making post entry passes and throwing the ball right into the defender.

I think that's a good deal of why Bam has been looking better as of late for us. They are throwing passes away from the defender or *gasp* leading him TO the goal with the pass
 
We had no one on our team that I would consider a good passer(possible exception is Levitch).
Snider took good care of the ball, so his assist to turnover ratio was really solid. Does that mean he passed well? Maybe.

I think Anas passes well out of the high post. Problem is he didn't pass that much.
 
Which UofL teams of recent years have had good ball movement in your opinion? I know this team lacked consistent and intelligent ball movement. They would apply it at times and then completely abandon it later on. Frustrating to watch among other things this season.
Hard to remember any.Siva was one of those guys that got it done by breaking down the defense thru the hi pick-n-roll.It worked,but nobody's run it right since.The offense has to be fluid with its passing,seamless and second nature.
And you're right,we abandon it after adversity in the game strikes.I watched the big guy for Purdue forget last night what was working.It's amazing that guys get away from what works so easily.

The ones that don't are very possibly still standing.

I do think the Garcia led team was maybe the best under Pitino.
 
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Passing is the most underated-skill in Basketball. I loved to watch Magic Johnson play.
He made everyone on the court with him a better player.

We had no one on our team that I would consider a good passer(possible exception is Levitch). Couple that with this team did not have very good ball handling skills in general and that's why our offense primarily revolved around offensive rebounding..
I really believe the inside out kick starts everything,but it has to be someone like Mahmoud,that really understands the game and what the team is trying to do.
 
In most of the games I watched last night, the team passing seems to be more fluid whether it's around the perimeter or inside/out. I am tired of watching our dribble handouts beyond the 3 point line. I have always heard that you can move the ball around faster by passing than by dribbling.
And....when you've got players that are much better catch-n-shoot guys,it makes the case even stronger.
 
This team had the attention span of a 5 year old. they were so dam inconsistent that it was unberable too watch them some games because you could predict the outcome good or bad.i
 
Lack of chemistry and selfish plays plagued this team all season. I have always felt that Adel does very little to make his teammates better even though he gets the ball a lot during a game. Now that he's declared for the draft, it's obvious to me that on some level he was out to impress the scouts at times more than trying to win the game. During our loss to Michigan, in the second half, I thought it was strange the he kept waving his hands for the ball despite already missing several jump shots and 3-pointers. The few times that I see both Adel and VJ on the floor together, I rarely see Adel passing to an open VJ. You could say that the reason we can't close out games is because some of the players were looking out for themselves and not passing to certain open teammates one we have a lead. I'm not sure the chemistry will improve next year even if everyone on this team come back. Just a thought.
 
Spot on. It particularly hurts my heart watch kids now making post entry passes and throwing the ball right into the defender.

I think that's a good deal of why Bam has been looking better as of late for us. They are throwing passes away from the defender or *gasp* leading him TO the goal with the pass
I agree with your bettpassing
Spot on. It particularly hurts my heart watch kids now making post entry passes and throwing the ball right into the defender.

I think that's a good deal of why Bam has been looking better as of late for us. They are throwing passes away from the defender or *gasp* leading him TO the goal with the pass
It is a two way street. They are making better entry passes and he is doing a better job of presenting himself as a target. Someone is doing some VG individual coaching with them.

Back to the OP....... Passing is always faster than dribbling. Great passing teams often offset a team with more individual talent. Devil he may be to most here, Rupp's teams were known for their passing. The ball seldom touched the floor. The great Celtic teams of the 50's and 60's were among the greatest passing teams of all time. The Lakers and generally the Sixers always had more individual talent, but the Celtics always got the ring.
 
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Passing is always faster than dribbling
And Ncaacard touched on it as well.If you're built to have a team of slashers,ok dribble it.If not,move the ball and stay ahead of the defense.

This has to be a mindset of the team and instilled in them early in the season
 
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Lack of chemistry and selfish plays plagued this team all season. I have always felt that Adel does very little to make his teammates better even though he gets the ball a lot during a game. Now that he's declared for the draft, it's obvious to me that on some level he was out to impress the scouts at times more than trying to win the game. During our loss to Michigan, in the second half, I thought it was strange the he kept waving his hands for the ball despite already missing several jump shots and 3-pointers. The few times that I see both Adel and VJ on the floor together, I rarely see Adel passing to an open VJ. You could say that the reason we can't close out games is because some of the players were looking out for themselves and not passing to certain open teammates one we have a lead. I'm not sure the chemistry will improve next year even if everyone on this team come back. Just a thought.
I think some of this true but not sure if it is fair just to single out Adel. I do believe this team suffered from "me first" syndrome, even DM and Q at times. Our bigs didn't seem to want to kick the ball back out once an entry pass and always tried to score instead of working and reposting for a better shot. The thing you mentioned about Adel and VJ must have been a rare occasion because in most cases, VJ came in for Adel.
 
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I agree with your bettpassing

It is a two way street. They are making better entry passes and he is doing a better job of presenting himself as a target. Someone is doing some VG individual coaching with them.

Back to the OP....... Passing is always faster than dribbling. Great passing teams often offset a team with more individual talent. Devil he may be to most here, Rupp's teams were known for their passing. The ball seldom touched the floor. The great Celtic teams of the 50's and 60's were among the greatest passing teams of all time. The Lakers and generally the Sixers always had more individual talent, but the Celtics always got the ring.


Rupp's team were known for their passing and shooting.....and outscored many a team because of it.

The Celtics had Bill Russell, a great defender and ultimate team player and usually always the best talent on the floor. He dominated as a team first player only could. One of the top 3 centers to ever play the game on any level.
 
Rupp's team were known for their passing and shooting.....and outscored many a team because of it.

The Celtics had Bill Russell, a great defender and ultimate team player and usually always the best talent on the floor. He dominated as a team first player only could. One of the top 3 centers to ever play the game on any level.
I agree with you on Rupp but you shortchanged Bill Russell. He was also a great passer. You are reading history, I witnessed it. Russ, Wes, and Walton were the best passing big men that I ever saw
 
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I agree with you on Rupp but you shortchanged Bill Russell. He was also a great passer. You are reading history, I witnessed it. Russ, Wes, and Walton were the best passing big men that I ever saw

I was born in 53...l witnessed it too. No where in my post did I short change Russell.

And I would agree about him and Wes....not a fan of Walton....he was a crybaby on the college level.....would whine about most every foul ever called on him....but he did dominate in the paint in college. Bad knees and foot injuries diminished his Pro career. Now he is just a flake....to much S, Cal sunshine or dru.s or smoking the whacky tobacky. So different strokes for different folks.
 
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I was born in 53...l witnessed it too. No where in my post did I short change Russell.

And I would agree about him and Wes....not a fan of Walton....he was a crybaby on the college level.....would whine about most every foul ever called on him....but he did dominate in the paint in college. Bad knees and foot injuries diminished his Pro career. Now he is just a flake....to much S, Cal sunshine or dru.s or smoking the whacky tobacky. So different strokes for different folks.
Amen! It is difficult to gauge another's true opinion or express your own, especially mine, on a message board. Best done in person. I am certain we share a lot of similar memories.

Bill Russell invented the outlet pass. Wes Unseld perfected it. Bill Walton was among the best passing centers in the context of a half court offense. Not a fan either, but I liked his game. Every other thing you said regarding him is the truth. Fond memories of NCST taking him down in 1974.
 
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