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Anton Gill: The numbers...

zipp

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Did this for Aaron a few weeks ago. Here are this past year's results for Gill and the guys ranked around him coming out of high school a couple years ago:

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Because of the minutes-per game (MPG) actual playing time differential, each guy's stats are adjusted to a standard 20 minutes of playing time. On that basis, Gill's numbers trail by a little but not by a lot. This was similar to what resulted for Aaron and the guys in his ranking group (around #30).

Here are my takeaways...
Our guys trail their peers in how early they get playing time. However, you should account for the schools to which the players are recruited and those situations. For example, Indiana has been and continues to be in rebuild mode. And Marquette and Memphis are non-P5 schools with, in all likelihood, lesser talent on their rosters.From a productivity standpoint and simply applying an eyeball test, there does appear to be a slight increase in output per minute as playing time increases. This is an argument for a guy like Gill to see more playing time. But it appears that the effect on our overall results--wins and losses--would be negligible. Hence, that's more an argument for the player and his family to make, not the fans.It's surprising how many of these "kids", for various reasons, never make it through their sophomore seasons. Anyone wanting to indict U of L for the attrition of players in our program need to look at national statistics.
I've come to the conclusion that our situation with short term roster development and turnover is not the issue that some of our fans think it is. Our "kids" aren't stifled in their overall development. Indiana doesn't play much defense, and the above stats don't much measure for that. Could also be why a kid like Troy Williams gets a lot more PT than Gill--his coach doesn't care how poorly he plays defense. And their TEAM results reflect that.

If you want to play for Pitino, you generally have to play well on both ends of the court. And because of that, there has to be delayed gratification, i.e., playing time and success. If you can't handle that, you can transfer and finish an unremarkable basketball career somewhere else...
 
Aaron was very impressive in his 30 second stint on Sunday. Still can't understand why he didn't get about 25 minutes a game.
 
Originally posted by CardFan1130:

Aaron was very impressive in his 30 second stint on Sunday. Still can't understand why he didn't get about 25 minutes a game.
You seriously can't understand it?
 
Originally posted by CardFan1130:

Aaron was very impressive in his 30 second stint on Sunday. Still can't understand why he didn't get about 25 minutes a game.
I trust Pitino's judgment, which I verified with my own eyes. Unfortunately Gill lacked game confidence. I think he will excel at a smaller school with a clean slate and less pressure.
 
I always got the feeling Gill forced the action at the offensive end. He did not let the game come to him. Most of his 3's were rushed. When he penetrated he usually had his head down and ended up turning the ball over or taking a difficult shot. I think he felt he had to impress the coach and did not have much time to do it. He never looked comfortable on the floor. I think a change of scenery will probably be good for him.
 
Originally posted by CardX:

Originally posted by CardFan1130:

Aaron was very impressive in his 30 second stint on Sunday. Still can't understand why he didn't get about 25 minutes a game.
You seriously can't understand it?
Yes I can. Aaron is awful. Looked like a confused middle schooler out there. Not sure where we get these guys or how they're so highly rated.
 
Originally posted by zipp:

Here are my takeaways...
Our guys trail their peers in how early they get playing time. However, you should account for the schools to which the players are recruited and those situations. For example, Indiana has been and continues to be in rebuild mode. And Marquette and Memphis are non-P5 schools with, in all likelihood, lesser talent on their rosters.From a productivity standpoint and simply applying an eyeball test, there does appear to be a slight increase in output per minute as playing time increases. This is an argument for a guy like Gill to see more playing time. But it appears that the effect on our overall results--wins and losses--would be negligible. Hence, that's more an argument for the player and his family to make, not the fans.It's surprising how many of these "kids", for various reasons, never make it through their sophomore seasons. Anyone wanting to indict U of L for the attrition of players in our program need to look at national statistics.
I've come to the conclusion that our situation with short term roster development and turnover is not the issue that some of our fans think it is. Our "kids" aren't stifled in their overall development. Indiana doesn't play much defense, and the above stats don't much measure for that. Could also be why a kid like Troy Williams gets a lot more PT than Gill--his coach doesn't care how poorly he plays defense. And their TEAM results reflect that.

If you want to play for Pitino, you generally have to play well on both ends of the court. And because of that, there has to be delayed gratification, i.e., playing time and success. If you can't handle that, you can transfer and finish an unremarkable basketball career somewhere else...
Until recently this is how it's always been. That whole AAU better prepares guys these days is complete BS. It's just an excuse for the agents to push certain players to the league. Playing against HS competition can't possibly prepare you for a league of supposedly the best talent in the world. That's like saying the NBA is barley better than AAU high school. Of course you could argue that the NBA is in fact nothing more than a glorified AAU team these days.
 
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