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And for those worried about the REAL impact...

zipp

zipp

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...of the Colburn situation...

Reportedly, G.G. Robinson tweeted about it, and signed with U of L the very next day ANYWAY.

Toughen up, boys...

[WARNING: OP-followed-by-wimps thread. Post at your own risk!]


This post was edited on 2/6 11:46 PM by zipp
 
Glad we got him but what happened to the Colburn kid was unethical, I don't care how you spin it! I don't want Bobby to act like the kids he is recruiting. Someone has to be the adult in this transaction. You may want us to toughen up but I want our head coach to GROW UP!
 
Originally posted by hintondc:
Glad we got him but what happened to the Colburn kid was unethical, I don't care how you spin it! I don't want Bobby to act like the kids he is recruiting. Someone has to be the adult in this transaction. You may want us to toughen up but I want our head coach to GROW UP!

There was NOTHING "unethical" about asking the kid to grey-shirt...NOTHING!!!

There are programs that did it on signing day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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11 players invited to NFL combine. If you are recruiting players, that says everything that needs to be said. You want a Choir boy for a coach? Well I am sure there are some 3-8 guys out there. If Colburns coach would have kept his head, instead of dynamiting bridges, Colburn would have had Redwines scholly.

This post was edited on 2/7 2:40 AM by Cardfan1963
 
Originally posted by 2for3:

Sooner or later Bobby would embarrass UL
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I wondered from your other post expressing this point of view whether you were even a U of L fan. Clearly, you're not.
 
Well, the Kragthorpe fans are out in full force again! Take your soccer trophies that everybody else got one alsoand go home!
 
I believe john L and kragthorpe grey shirted players.
Strong in fact did this. Some of you wimpy UofL fans
werent paying attention

Long before john L, did, various coaches across the
Country did this.

Some outright rescinded scholarship offers, including
on signing day.

Get over it wimpy UofL fans. Recruiting is
a dirty business.
 
Originally posted by KerryRhodes:
I believe john L and kragthorpe grey shirted players.
Strong in fact did this. Some of you wimpy UofL fans
werent paying attention

Long before john L, did, various coaches across the
Country did this.

Some outright rescinded scholarship offers, including
on signing day.

Get over it wimpy UofL fans. Recruiting is
a dirty business.
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Agree. If it's going to stop, the NCAA needs to step in and stop it. We all know that's not going to happen.
 
How do you stop it Watson ?

Players reneging and changing their minds on signing day,
Is the way it is. Not to mention late qualifiers that
coaches have to calculate in.

An early signing period wouldnt solve this.
A player could change his mind, especially those waiting
an offer from a bigger or better school, or their dream
school.

Also coaching changes. The new coach might run an option offense.
Why be stuck with a drop back QB ?

Tell all recruits when they verbal, that they may be greyshirted.

The flip side is, you recruit for 25 schollies, and a verbal flips.
Thats why teams over recruit.

They also oversign, in case of non-qualifiers.

It may look bad, however it actuality , its recruiting.
 
Agreed, this stuff isn't going to stop. There are well-intentioned programs and conferences who will do things (or say so) that are in the players' interests. But if the schools are disadvantaged--the ones making the rules--things won't change.

One of the recent innovations has been the "four-year scholarship"--the scholly that can't be revoked. Sounds great until you study the consequences. I heard an outstanding and principled coach, Dan McDonnell, talk about it. Said it won't work for college baseball, a sport that is granted a TOTAL of 11.7 scholarships for the entire team. Check the size of the U of L baseball roster. I think there were more than 30 guys on it during Fall practices.

The schollies McDonnell gets to dole out are obviously a precious commodity. You make a recruiting mistake, you have to correct that mistake. That is, drop the kid's scholarship. Sounds ruthless, doesn't it? And that's McDonnell doing that stuff behind-the-scenes every year.

It's probably apparent, but the more I think about this Colburn situation, the angrier I get. Because at the root of the issue is ingratitude, something I'm not very tolerant of. A damned ungrateful, undersized kid that Petrino was willing to take a flier on is throwing it back in Petrino's and our faces. He was being rescued from the abyss of Presbyterian and other lightweight football programs, and this is the thanks we get.

And if it's not the kid's fault because he was letting other well-intentioned people like his football coach speak for him, that's the kid's fault too. Ungrateful AND stupid--anyone wanna still give this kid a scholly??...

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This post was edited on 2/7 1:24 PM by zipp
 
"It's probably apparent, but the more I think about this Colburn situation, the angrier I get. Because at the root of the issue is ingratitude, something I'm not very tolerant of. A damned ungrateful, undersized kid that Petrino was willing to take a flier on is throwing it back in Petrino's and our faces. He was being rescued from the abyss of Presbyterian and other lightweight football programs, and this is the thanks we get."


Zipp...that was one sweet reading paragraph right there.

Golf Clap for you!

bwt
 
Thank you.

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Maybe I do my best work when I'm a little ticked...much like--according to Pitino--Chris Jones.
 
Originally posted by beakwithteeth:
"It's probably apparent, but the more I think about this Colburn situation, the angrier I get. Because at the root of the issue is ingratitude, something I'm not very tolerant of. A damned ungrateful, undersized kid that Petrino was willing to take a flier on is throwing it back in Petrino's and our faces. He was being rescued from the abyss of Presbyterian and other lightweight football programs, and this is the thanks we get."


Zipp...that was one sweet reading paragraph right there.

Golf Clap for you!

bwt
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Problem is........Colburn was not really complaining about it. Confused and upset, sure.....but the ones complaining were his coaches, South Carolina writers and ESPN clowns.
 
Originally posted by conversely:
Problem is........Colburn was not really complaining about it. Confused and upset, sure.....but the ones complaining were his coaches, South Carolina writers and ESPN clowns.I understand he's just a kid and not as old as the rest of us.

BUT he could be telling those around him to STFU. OR he could be talking for himself and saying "I'm a big boy, don't pay attention to others trying to speak for me, and I'm taking the U of L scholarship."

I'd welcome him with open arms...
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Alabama asked a DE to greyshirt on the Monday before signing day and he accepted it. He will join the team in January on a full scholarship to Alabama. Colburn had the same opportunity to get a full ride from Louisville. Yet I haven't heard one word about the Alabama situation. I guess it's because the kid accepted the deal and didn't make a scene about it.
 
Exactly. The young man shoulda, woulda, coulda had one helluva ride here...just a few months delayed. I assume he's 18 or close to it. He's not really a kid anymore and needs to own this decision.

At the end of the day, I think we all wish him well and hope he finds the field somewhere, someday.

Go Cards!
 
what the heck you think Alabama and Auburn just did do you hear anything negative about there greyshirt offers give me a break.
 
Calipari took the art of running off players to new heights this spring. Shortly after taking over for Billy Gillispie, Calipari brought in three of the nation's top unsigned high school seniors: guards John Wall and Eric Bledsoe, and power forward DeMarcus Cousins.

Problem was, that left Calipari with four more players than he had scholarships to give -- and he would have been five over the limit if senior guard Jodie Meeks had not decided to remain in the NBA draft. Calipari had an opportunity to watch the players he inherited go through a half-dozen workouts in Lexington before deciding how he was going to whittle his roster. In late May, the school announced that three scholarship players, who just happened to be end-of-the-bench reserves, would not be returning next season.

Still, by bringing in more players than he had scholarships -- "oversigning," as the practice is often called -- Calipari is taking roster management to an extreme.

From: "New coaches Thomas, Calipari hurting players in scholarship game"
Sports Illustrated link: http://www.si.com/more-sports/2009/06/24/hoop-thoughts
 
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