To discuss pending personnel and litigation matters. Unfortunately at UofL this could concern a lot of different matters. Would think it involves search for an AD?
4pm - Athletics / BOT joint meeting tomorrow
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yell who knows radio running rampant with rumors Mack out. His coaches show is canceld tonite
The coaches show cancellation definitely is interesting. Looks like Mack era may be done
Jody reporting Mack will not coach another game he is out (unofficially).
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Sources: men’s basketball coach Chris Mack’s future at Louisville is being discussed by school leadership and could result in a change, but nothing has been finalized as of now. Trustees and Athletics board meeting tomorrow. Mack radio show tonight canceled.
4:46 PM · Jan 25, 2022
Sources: men’s basketball coach Chris Mack’s future at Louisville is being discussed by school leadership and could result in a change, but nothing has been finalized as of now. Trustees and Athletics board meeting tomorrow. Mack radio show tonight canceled.
4:46 PM · Jan 25, 2022
Josh Heird stepping up as a leader? at least he is getting a conversation going about our program and school
Well at least Mack can say the last time he coached against uk he beat them.
I consider it a Jurich mistake if he already had Mack at the top of the list and Tyra just followed through…
Everybody on Twitter will know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy that works with a guy that knows a guy that will say the next HC @ UofL is gonna be _____
Meeting with player’s tomorrow morning - this is a done deal. Just blows my mind that this thing went so sideways.
Per Seth Davis:
Louisville and coach Chris Mack are in the final stages of negotiations for a separation agreement, a source with direct knowledge told The Athletic on Tuesday.
A meeting of Louisville's Board of Trustees and Athletics Board has been called for Wednesday to consider approving the agreement and Tuesday's edition of the Chris Mack Radio Show was canceled. Nothing is finalized but the widespread expectation in Louisville is that Mack has coached his last game there.
Mack is in his fourth season of a seven-year deal with Louisville, which has gone 11-9 (5-5 in ACC play) this year. All five of the Cardinals' conference losses have come in their last six games. After the team's loss to Notre Dame Saturday, center Malik Williams was asked if the players had tuned out the coaching staff, responding "I don’t have a comment for that."
In Mack's first season (2018-19), the team earned a 20-14 record and a No. 7 seed in the NCAA Tournament. In the 2019-20 campaign, the Cardinals went 24-7 before the postseason was canceled due to COVID-19. In the 2020-21 pandemic-shortened season, Louisville went 13-7.
Mack was previously the head coach at Xavier for nine seasons; he was named National Coach of the Year in 2016. Mack's teams have participated in the NCAA Tournament in nine of his 12 seasons as head coach.
Louisville and coach Chris Mack are in the final stages of negotiations for a separation agreement, a source with direct knowledge told The Athletic on Tuesday.
A meeting of Louisville's Board of Trustees and Athletics Board has been called for Wednesday to consider approving the agreement and Tuesday's edition of the Chris Mack Radio Show was canceled. Nothing is finalized but the widespread expectation in Louisville is that Mack has coached his last game there.
Mack is in his fourth season of a seven-year deal with Louisville, which has gone 11-9 (5-5 in ACC play) this year. All five of the Cardinals' conference losses have come in their last six games. After the team's loss to Notre Dame Saturday, center Malik Williams was asked if the players had tuned out the coaching staff, responding "I don’t have a comment for that."
In Mack's first season (2018-19), the team earned a 20-14 record and a No. 7 seed in the NCAA Tournament. In the 2019-20 campaign, the Cardinals went 24-7 before the postseason was canceled due to COVID-19. In the 2020-21 pandemic-shortened season, Louisville went 13-7.
Mack was previously the head coach at Xavier for nine seasons; he was named National Coach of the Year in 2016. Mack's teams have participated in the NCAA Tournament in nine of his 12 seasons as head coach.
I think Mack was totally frustrated and checked out. He wasn’t even disguising it. I am surprised we let him go mid season as no coach will step in so I guess Pegues takes over. I guess he couldn’t finish the season.
It aint going to be anyone they think Perl Wright Beard LOL or jesus christ
Nobody knows.
Everybody thinks they are smarter than everyone else.
None of us know sh!t. Including me. I thought they'd hold off until an AD was hired full-time. I was 100% wrong.
Some people said there is no way Mack would leave because of all the $ in his buyout. Looks like they were wrong too.
Again. Nobody knows. But somebody will be right. Maybe.
It blows my mind also. I've followed the Cards since Unseld and Beard and Xavier since the early 80's. I was aware of Mack from the time he was in HS. If there was ever a homerun hire post-Pitino, this was it. At least on paper.
I have no idea what went wrong, but getting rid of Murray and Gaudio was a huge clue that things were way off kilter inside the program. Time to sit back and take a deep breath. It will eventually work itself out.
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Former Louisville star Butch Beard on U of L basketball: “They have run it into the ground. Right now the basketball program is in the Ohio River, right next to the Belle of Louisville. The Belle of Louisville is going to float. The basketball program is getting ready to drown."
7:44 PM · Jan 25, 2022
I can't believe it either. No way did I think this would happen. Watch Pegues lead the Cards to a win over Duke, haha.
I think something had to happen. Can we imagine losing all the remaining games over a months time? This would be much worse than Bobby Petrino's last season. If I was Mack I would be ready to get out of dodge. Losing 15 of the last 16 games would be a nightmare for him.
I dont understand why people think with Mack gone now. This team is going to just magically turn on a button. It's going to be even worse these players know it's a rudderless ship . All for yourself not too mention we have seen their abilites not that overall good.
I see it in another light. We have seen flashes from certain players and there seemed to be something holding them back from jelling together. Mack may not have been the only problem but I think you’ll see some guys loosen up. You can’t play well if you’re not having fun.
99.9% of the fans threw in towel nobody thinks Mack leaving saves this team. This team has been toast for awhile.
I actually believe Mack initiated the negotiation the dude has been miserable since he fired the assistants. This just didn't go how anybody expected.
Don't be surprised if he has another job before the Cards have a new hire.
Didn't say the team would turn it around only that there would be less of a nightmare if Mack leaves. Remember that awful last season with Petrino? With each game it got worse and they couldn't wait until the season was over to fire him. No one expected the team would win any more games but something had to be done.
In basketball there's still a months worth of games ahead and each subsequent loss the pressure would build to fire Mack so it's best to do it now, all of a sudden.
Play the final 10 games without that stigma. Peagues is an interim coach and he has nothing to lose. He's not going to be blamed.
The point of firing Chris Mack now isn't about turning the season around. It's about easing the pressure cooker of not firing him during these last 10 games.
Talent wise they should be competitive with anyone except Duke. However they have to play together or they have no shot. We will see how it plays out. Who knows how the kids will react. Hopefully the fans will come out and support them.
Hopefully the fans do come. Agree 100%. But your talent assessment is way off IMO. Our talent level is low, real low. Jared West plays hard and I appreciate him, but an ACC level point guard he is not. He’s not even close, and that’s just one example of many.
I agree with your first paragraph but not with your last. If he is so miserable and frustrated as I think or he pretends to be, he’s going to take time to come up with next options. His wife is going to have leave her hometown. Mack probably had visions of his kids going to U of L at one time.
What exactly is talent? Is it jumping out of the gym? Is it dead eye 3 pt shooting? Is it driving to the goal and finishing over defenders?
Too much is made over the "talent" Louisville has like the post above about Jarod West. All the players have talent, some better than others. The problem is they're not a team. It's not about being talented enough.
Past grad transfers like Lewis and Cunningham that no one was saying wasn't talented enough for the ACC would probably be struggling on this team, whereas guys like West and Faulkner would have been more successful if they played here 4 or 5 years ago.
You can look at every team in the ACC including Duke and see players who someone could say are not talented enough to be on a ACC team. Players are more talented than others but if they see significant minutes they are ACC talented.
Would the Cards roster be ACC talented if just one of the players was a all conference player and the team was 16 and 4?
Louisville doesn't have NBA talent but they have enough talent to be a NCAA tournament team. They just don't play well together due to coaching or personality but it's not due to some collective lack of talent.
Of course this is just my opinion.
Talent - They don't have the quickness, the gift of length, the ability to create their own shots. They don't have a next level offensive player (s) that has (have) the ability to score on their own outside of any structure, in transition or secondary transition.
These are things that can't really be taught, but can be molded if a player or players have it.
Yes, even one player can make a massive difference. Two definitely can. If you have a Terry Rozier that can go get buckets on his own, this makes the game easier for all his teammates. Just one example. Outlet pass to Rozier he is going from half court to the rim in a blink. Or he's taking a solid pull up jumper off glass and either nailing it or his teammate is in position to go get the rebound. He's that good. He has the handles, the skill, and the length to get his shot for himself or give it to a teammate that has the ability to run the floor, catch a lob or go get the rebound (Trez) and throw it down.
Picture the outlet pass to Locke. He has Withers running with him. Or Cross. Or Dre. This is not Rozier/Harrell on the break attacking. Locke and friends just don't have the talent to do what Rozier and Trez could do. Or if that pass is to West. West just does not have the quickness to get from Point A to Point B where he wants to go, etc.
Same thing when your shot clock is running low and you need something to happen in half court.
You are't seeing high end basketball because you don't have high end players.
This is just a snapshot example of what, IMO, the program is missing right now.
These are things that can't really be taught, but can be molded if a player or players have it.
Yes, even one player can make a massive difference. Two definitely can. If you have a Terry Rozier that can go get buckets on his own, this makes the game easier for all his teammates. Just one example. Outlet pass to Rozier he is going from half court to the rim in a blink. Or he's taking a solid pull up jumper off glass and either nailing it or his teammate is in position to go get the rebound. He's that good. He has the handles, the skill, and the length to get his shot for himself or give it to a teammate that has the ability to run the floor, catch a lob or go get the rebound (Trez) and throw it down.
Picture the outlet pass to Locke. He has Withers running with him. Or Cross. Or Dre. This is not Rozier/Harrell on the break attacking. Locke and friends just don't have the talent to do what Rozier and Trez could do. Or if that pass is to West. West just does not have the quickness to get from Point A to Point B where he wants to go, etc.
Same thing when your shot clock is running low and you need something to happen in half court.
You are't seeing high end basketball because you don't have high end players.
This is just a snapshot example of what, IMO, the program is missing right now.
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First, it’s not really fair to compare anybody on this team with Rozier or Harrell. They are proven NBA talent. Really U of L has had only a handful of that talent with Garcia, Mitchell, Harrell, and Rozier. Hopefully Nwora stays around a while. Other guys like Clark, Samuels only had brief stints. Hell there for a while Garcia was probably the only one. Guys like Dean, Wheat, R Smith and Siva, we thought all had the talent.
As far as individual talent, Ellis has shown he can get to the rim, meaning he has the quickness. He’s not as good at finishing at the rim but he’s still developing. Faulkner has quickness as well and lately his 6-7 assists indicate he’s a decent if not good PG. At one point, Malik was a double double guy, at least in the Ray Spaulding conversation and better than Mahmoud. Injuries have set him back. Williamson is not unlike Blackshear, highly touted but hasn’t lived up to OUR expectations. We have individual talent but as the previous poster said, we don’t have the leadership necessary to get the maximum effort out of them.
During the Pitino years, no one would say those teams lacked talent even though there were just a few players that went on to be in the NBA. Even the 2013 championship team had only two players make the NBA.
Louisville was a consistent tournament team because the coaching was top notch and any of the players, regardless of how talented they were, moved on if they didn't accept the coaching.
Who believes that if Pitino was coaching the 2021/22 Cardinals the team would be 11 and 9?
This team doesn't have a roster full of NBA talent but has enough talent to be a upper-class ACC team. They just don't have any direction or confidence with the coaching. Why that is no one knows for sure but will one of these days.
Louisville was a consistent tournament team because the coaching was top notch and any of the players, regardless of how talented they were, moved on if they didn't accept the coaching.
Who believes that if Pitino was coaching the 2021/22 Cardinals the team would be 11 and 9?
This team doesn't have a roster full of NBA talent but has enough talent to be a upper-class ACC team. They just don't have any direction or confidence with the coaching. Why that is no one knows for sure but will one of these days.
It is absolutely fair because he's asking about talent. This team doesn't have it. Prior teams did.
You are also leaving out a lot of talented guys from your memory bank. You literally listed half the guys and forgot the other half or more LOL!!!!!!
Add Gorgi Dieng to your list. And D. Lee. And even Derrick Caracter.... And Earl Clark. And Nwora. And Reece Gaines. And David Johnson. Siva got drafted and played in the NBA. Samardo and Adel even had NBA 10 day contracts. Spalding also put in some time in the NBA before injuries. Mathiang also reached the NBA. Etc etc etc
There was boatloads of talent on this campus.
Even Enoch, Russ, and Kuric are playing overseas. Larry O did. Taquan. Probably a few others.
Now think about time span, these players are scattered over the last decade here, not all here at once. Many successful teams. Because they all had high end talent this team doesn't have.
And yes, a HOF coach. It was the combination. This team doesn't have the HOF coach either.
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