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More on COA, according to federal law:

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A summary of the law from the FAFSA website (https://fafsa.ed.gov/help/costatt.htm)

"The cost of attendance (COA) is not the bill that you may get from
your college; it is the total amount it will cost you to go to college
each year. The COA includes tuition and fees; on-campus room and board
(or a housing and food allowance for off-campus students); and
allowances for books, supplies, transportation, loan fees, and, if
applicable, dependent care. It can also include other expenses like an
allowance for the rental or purchase of a personal computer, costs
related to a disability, or costs for eligible study-abroad programs".

The summary makes no mention of personal expenses, however the actual law does:

Part E Link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/1087ll


"For the purpose of this subchapter and part 42, the term "cost of attendance" means-
(1) tuition and fees normally assessed a student carrying the same academic workload as determined by the

institution, and including costs for rental or purchase of any equipment, materials, or supplies required of all
students in the same course of study;
(2) an allowance for books, supplies, transportation, and miscellaneous personal expenses, including a

reasonable allowance for the documented rental or purchase of a personal
computer, for a student attending the institution on at least a half-time basis, as determined by the institution;
(3) an allowance (as determined by the institution) for room and board costs incurred by the student "

The term "FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE" appears nowhere in the law. In the athletic world, the term FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE has been coined to indicate that not all of the official "cost of attendance" items are covered in the athletic scholarships. Which of these costs are not covered by an athletic scholarship?

Item 1. All are covered.

Item 3. Room is covered. I've always assumed that the "training table" provides athletes 3 squares a day. One poster indicated it may be only 1 per day. If that is the case, include the full service meal plan in the scholarship. Problem solved.

Item 2. Books are covered. Many supplies are covered. That leaves supplies that aren't covered, transportation, miscellaneous personal expenses, and a personal computer that may not be covered by the athletic scholarship.

Transportation: Is this local or to and from home? The student only, or a trip or 2 for the parents? No problem for the latter. Include x number of trips home for the student, and y number of trips to school for the parents. No cash need change hands for these. That leaves local transportation.

Computer? Again, no problem, let the athletic scholarship provide that. No cash needed.

So the FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE, the cost of those things not covered by the scholarship, is down to:

Local transportation, and miscellaneous personal expenses. This is the catchall, and could obviously be any number a school wanted to "offer" an athlete, with apparently no further specificity than "miscellaneous personal expenses". However, if these are $3000, $4000, or even more than $5000, I believe they need more itemization than just "miscellaneous". And some explanation as to why these "miscellaneous personal expenses" are so different school to school. Don't tell me regional cost of living differences, since Boston is clearly a higher cost of living than the South in general, and Louisville isn't 3 times as expensive as Lexington.

By the way, medical and insurance costs are NOT included in the federal COA items.







This post was edited on 4/14 2:28 PM by NoKyCard
 
Originally posted by NoKyCard:


A summary of the law from the FAFSA website (https://fafsa.ed.gov/help/costatt.htm)

"The cost of attendance (COA) is not the bill that you may get from
your college; it is the total amount it will cost you to go to college
each year. The COA includes tuition and fees; on-campus room and board
(or a housing and food allowance for off-campus students); and
allowances for books, supplies, transportation, loan fees, and, if
applicable, dependent care. It can also include other expenses like an
allowance for the rental or purchase of a personal computer, costs
related to a disability, or costs for eligible study-abroad programs".

The summary makes no mention of personal expenses, however the actual law does:

Part E Link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/20/1087ll


"For the purpose of this subchapter and part 42, the term "cost of attendance" means-
(1) tuition and fees normally assessed a student carrying the same academic workload as determined by the

institution, and including costs for rental or purchase of any equipment, materials, or supplies required of all
students in the same course of study;
(2) an allowance for books, supplies, transportation, and miscellaneous personal expenses, including a

reasonable allowance for the documented rental or purchase of a personal
computer, for a student attending the institution on at least a half-time basis, as determined by the institution;
(3) an allowance (as determined by the institution) for room and board costs incurred by the student "

The term "FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE" appears nowhere in the law. In the athletic world, the term FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE has been coined to indicate that not all of the official "cost of attendance" items are covered in the athletic scholarships. Which of these costs are not covered by an athletic scholarship?

Item 1. All are covered.

Item 3. Room is covered. I've always assumed that the "training table" provides athletes 3 squares a day. One poster indicated it may be only 1 per day. If that is the case, include the full service meal plan in the scholarship. Problem solved.

Item 2. Books are covered. Many supplies are covered. That leaves supplies that aren't covered, transportation, miscellaneous personal expenses, and a personal computer that may not be covered by the athletic scholarship.

Transportation: Is this local or to and from home? The student only, or a trip or 2 for the parents? No problem for the latter. Include x number of trips home for the student, and y number of trips to school for the parents. No cash need change hands for these. That leaves local transportation.

Computer? Again, no problem, let the athletic scholarship provide that. No cash needed.

So the FULL COST OF ATTENDANCE, the cost of those things not covered by the scholarship, is down to:

Local transportation, and miscellaneous personal expenses. This is the catchall, and could obviously be any number a school wanted to "offer" an athlete, with apparently no further specificity than "miscellaneous personal expenses". However, if these are $3000, $4000, or even more than $5000, I believe they need more itemization than just "miscellaneous". And some explanation as to why these "miscellaneous personal expenses" are so different school to school. Don't tell me regional cost of living differences, since Boston is clearly a higher cost of living than the South in general, and Louisville isn't 3 times as expensive as Lexington.

By the way, medical and insurance costs are NOT included in the federal COA items.







This post was edited on 4/14 2:28 PM by NoKyCard
Seems college football players just jump from amateur to semi-pro. As I stated before, I do not want to ever hear the term "student" athlete again....
 
One thing that comes to mind that would need detailed analysis is on vs off campus housing. Perhaps in the "COA era" they are giving larger allowances for off campus housing due to a change in the formula. You would have to factor in on campus availability, off campus total costs, etc. Not saying that is the end-all difference, but could be a significant factor.

Since we want to dissect this a bit can someone please tell me why UK was giving over $2600 more per year per scholarship than UofL in their scholarships? (CJ data yesterday) Is UK really that much more expensive per year? I doubt it.
 
Originally posted by DaytonCard:
Is there any Tax Liability with this?
There absolutely should be. And how in the world is amateur status not legally affected?

So many people have no idea what can of worms this will open.
 
Originally posted by ajgcardman:


Originally posted by DaytonCard:
Is there any Tax Liability with this?
There absolutely should be. And how in the world is amateur status not legally affected?

So many people have no idea what can of worms this will open.
No, there is no tax liability, because the players are not employees of the university and the money they are receiving is not income - it's money to be used to pay for debts incurred while attending college.

The can of worms has already been opened. Watch the HBO Real Sports Special I mentioned in the other thread about the young man who is paying $10K per year for his medical bills because he has graduated and because he wasn't covered by workers compensation when the injuries occurred in a college football game.
 
Originally posted by PushupMan:
Originally posted by ajgcardman:


Originally posted by DaytonCard:
Is there any Tax Liability with this?
There absolutely should be. And how in the world is amateur status not legally affected?

So many people have no idea what can of worms this will open.
No, there is no tax liability, because the players are not employees of the university and the money they are receiving is not income - it's money to be used to pay for debts incurred while attending college.

The can of worms has already been opened. Watch the HBO Real Sports Special I mentioned in the other thread about the young man who is paying $10K per year for his medical bills because he has graduated and because he wasn't covered by workers compensation when the injuries occurred in a college football game.
Risk vs reward.... he traded his health for a free education and the chance to play pro ball. plus Obamacare are should take care if this, no.

This post was edited on 4/15 5:44 PM by SpotHogCard
 
Originally posted by PushupMan:
Originally posted by ajgcardman:


Originally posted by DaytonCard:
Is there any Tax Liability with this?
There absolutely should be. And how in the world is amateur status not legally affected?

So many people have no idea what can of worms this will open.
No, there is no tax liability, because the players are not employees of the university and the money they are receiving is not income - it's money to be used to pay for debts incurred while attending college.

The can of worms has already been opened. Watch the HBO Real Sports Special I mentioned in the other thread about the young man who is paying $10K per year for his medical bills because he has graduated and because he wasn't covered by workers compensation when the injuries occurred in a college football game.
Sad to say this will be a big can of worms for some programs.

Given the nature of the beast, "expenses" will require documentation IMO. College Degrees have gotten to the point were they can not be justified given the expense vs the results (job).

A tipping point of the cost given the amount of salaries, tuition, and the consumer will be realized a lot sooner.
 
Originally posted by SpotHogCard:


Originally posted by PushupMan:

Originally posted by ajgcardman:



Originally posted by DaytonCard:
Is there any Tax Liability with this?
There absolutely should be. And how in the world is amateur status not legally affected?

So many people have no idea what can of worms this will open.
No, there is no tax liability, because the players are not employees of the university and the money they are receiving is not income - it's money to be used to pay for debts incurred while attending college.

The can of worms has already been opened. Watch the HBO Real Sports Special I mentioned in the other thread about the young man who is paying $10K per year for his medical bills because he has graduated and because he wasn't covered by workers compensation when the injuries occurred in a college football game.
Risk vs reward.... he traded his health for a free education and the chance to play pro ball. plus Obamacare are should take care if this, no.

This post was edited on 4/15 5:44 PM by SpotHogCard
He has insurance. The $10K per year in medical bills are the cost for deductibles and amounts above what his insurance will pay. All of his expenses for that injury would have been paid by worker's compensation had he been considered an employee.
 
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